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VDV....how best should we utilise him?

tototoner

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Makes me laugh that just a few years ago this thread would have been:

'Gary Doherty...how best should we utilise him?'

very true, if all we argue about is where Van Der Vaart should play after a game we win then we'll be alright this season.
 

kaz Hirai

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Marcel Van Der Kraan has just been on Talksport saying Rafa loves it here, is very happy to have scored 4 goals in 3 NLD games, that its the 1st time Redknapp has asked him to play wide and that the UK press making a mountain out of a molehill as usual.

Rafa has however raised it with Redknapp that he can last 90 mins

He is a Dutch journalist who watched the Shamrock game with Rafa and his dad and spoke to Rafa for a few hours after the NLD Derby


interesting, he has played on the right before but assuming this means that was the 1st time he was asked to play as a proper wide right player who doesnt tuck in and has all the responsibilites etc

im sure thats the last time redknapp will ask him to do that, he isnt david beckham.

either drop defoe or play aaron lennon
 

jonathanhotspur

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HARRY REDKNAPP has threatened to axe Rafael van der Vaart in a blast back at his whingeing Dutch star.

Tottenham's boss is losing patience with the moody midfielder's constant complaining about being played out of position and being substituted during games.

Van der Vaart's latest moan came after he was asked to play on the wing for Spurs in Sunday's 2-1 win over Arsenal, in which he scored.

Redknapp snapped: "Yes, it does seem to be a problem. Rafa can't run back and chase the full-back. Against the better teams it is a problem.

"Rafa's best position is in the middle, playing just behind the front man.

"The only problem is that Jermain Defoe plays there too and Jermain is playing very, very well at the moment.

"So, I guess I have got a decision to make, haven't I? I suppose it's now between Rafa and Jermain over who plays in the team."

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...knapp-tells-Rafael-van-der-Vaart-Shut-it.html
 

Bus-Conductor

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Superb. We have a manager that thinks choosing between Defoe and VDV is a dilemma.

Doesn't that make you all feel warm inside.
 

raf18

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As far as I'm concerned, as long as Rafa is fit, there is no decision to make even if Defoe was on top form.
 

sloth

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He said that as if it was a threat to Rafa:

"So, I guess I have got a decision to make, haven't I? I suppose it's now between Rafa and Jermain over who plays in the team." Dum dum dummmmmmm!!!!! I bet Rafa's quaking....

Anyway, I feel sorry for Defoe because he's actually a pretty good striker when he's confident and working hard, but with the players we have available there's just not ever going to be a regular place in the starting 11 for him.

Of course knowing Redknapp he'll probably go and make me look an idiot now and start Defoe ahead of Rafa (would he? Could he? Surely not!!!!), in which case their be a horde of people on here who'll hastily re-examine their own opinions on the subject, decide they're no experts and in fact Defoe is clearly a better choice alongside Ade because of... well... he's quick or something... got a short back-lift with his shot... does that shuffle shoot thing ever so well... lol.
 

philbcn

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"Rafa can't run back and chase the full-back. Against the better teams it is a problem"

Excellent! So play him there against A***nal and the implication is they're not one of the better teams! Love it.

Harry should shut up though, Kaboul shouldn't play fullback, Van der Vaart shouldn't play wide. What advantage do you get from saying it?
What happens if you decide to play them they after all? You look a bit foolish! Plus why not keep other managers guessing about your formation.
 

mattstev2000

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HARRY REDKNAPP has threatened to axe Rafael van der Vaart in a blast back at his whingeing Dutch star.

Tottenham's boss is losing patience with the moody midfielder's constant complaining about being played out of position and being substituted during games.

Van der Vaart's latest moan came after he was asked to play on the wing for Spurs in Sunday's 2-1 win over Arsenal, in which he scored.

Redknapp snapped: "Yes, it does seem to be a problem. Rafa can't run back and chase the full-back. Against the better teams it is a problem.

"Rafa's best position is in the middle, playing just behind the front man.

"The only problem is that Jermain Defoe plays there too and Jermain is playing very, very well at the moment.

"So, I guess I have got a decision to make, haven't I? I suppose it's now between Rafa and Jermain over who plays in the team."

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...knapp-tells-Rafael-van-der-Vaart-Shut-it.html

:stupid:
 

SpurSince57

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Superb. We have a manager that thinks choosing between Defoe and VDV is a dilemma.

Doesn't that make you all feel warm inside.

What makes me feel all warm inside is having had the best run of results over Arsenal since Nicholson was boss, and the only manager since Nicholson who's been in charge for over 100 games and won half of them (you may nitpick that 55 out of 112 is fractionally short of half if you please).

What makes me laugh quite immoderately is theorising armchair experts who seem seriously to believe they could do better.
 

kaz Hirai

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and one more thing, why doesnt he play Defoe out wide then, least he has the pace to get up and down the pitch quicker :lol:
 

Bus-Conductor

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What makes me feel all warm inside is having had the best run of results over Arsenal since Nicholson was boss, and the only manager since Nicholson who's been in charge for over 100 games and won half of them (you may nitpick that 55 out of 112 is fractionally short of half if you please).

What makes me laugh quite immoderately is theorising armchair experts who seem seriously to believe they could do better.

To think, if you'd had your way, we'd still have that loser Jol in charge.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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I can't believe our boss writes a column in The Sun.

It's hardly the best man management telling the whole world that you are gonna drop one player for another.
 

Mr Pink

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This is where two wrongs definitely don't make a right.

1) Rafa shouldn't be complaining publicly, Harry is quite right to tell him to jog on in that respect but;

2) Harry really should be playing a player of this quality and influence in their best position more often that not, surely no other permutation sees us better off than VDV, centrally, off the stiker....in the main anyway.
 
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