Walker..

[EastLondonYid]

I agree it is quite conceivable that Walker may or may not prove to be a big hit....but the beauty is identifying obvious talent before they prove to be massive stars....and i just think this is Walkers time to make the RB position his and become a massive star ,hopefully one that won't be taken from us by the bigger richer **** *out there,

 

[kaz Hirai]

seems ok, good pace. Corluka is still the better defender thats for sure, if walker wasn't english would people hand on heart rate him as high?

but time is on his side, he has the tools to be a top right back, and he has some amazing defenders to learn from, the best in the world

 

[tobi]

Not sure of him tbh

Defensively I'm really not sure

I'd like to see him right mid!

Moving him to RM doesn't change or solve anything, he should stay at RB and learn/develop in that position.

We have better and more intelligent players that can play on or from the right.

 

[C0YS]

Walker has been pretty good for us this season. What I like about him is unlike hutton he doesn't have to do everything himself, he knows when to pass the ball (and he knows how to pick a pass, if some of his QPR games are to go by) sometimes positionally he is a bit weak but so far he has got away with it because, my god he is quick! Defensively he has actually been a lot better then I thought he would. He is yet to make a costly error, and we are yet to concede with him in our team.

He had a good game against Liverpool, got a lot of praise, from non spurs fans. He also played well against Wolves and did well against Man utd when he was on. Its clear he is improving every game, he is young for a defender and seems a lot less defensively naive then say Johnson is now, yet alone at his age. He will be a good player, and our RB for a very long time.

Many people are giving him disrespect based on how they assume he would play against certain opposition, well I say wait until he faces such opposition, for he has done little to warrant it.

On B_C and on agrdavidsfan these are two supporters who made a judgment on him after watching him for the first time, ever since then they have been looking for Walker to prove them wrong, rather then viewing his performances from as neutral or supportive stand point, that again is unfair to Walker, who as I said before has done little wrong, BAE was a lot more error prone when he first came to us,

 

[BringBack_leGin]

He may not be the best defensively, but he's already visibly improving. He's also lightning quick, which helps. His dribbling is good, his crossing is also good, and he's handy in the air. He'll learn positioning, especially if we keep King at cb to marshall him. He provides a goal threat as mych as a right back can be expected to, which is handy, and most important is that he genuinely believes in himself. That is not to be underestimated, confidence in my opinion is half the battle with players. Look at Lennon: when confident he looks world class; when not confident he's a waste of a place in the side. Defoe, Bale, Huddlestone, even our genuinely brilliant players like Modric and Vdv, when confidence dips they look less than half the player. Walker right now is brimming and, given his excellence going forward and the fact that we're not conceding, he should keep his place while form and confidence are high. This way he will also learn where he needs to. Just like with academics, it's far easier to learn when you're upbeat.

Long term I expect a lot from him, so I'm willing to live with his inadequacies till he irons them out. It's not as if Charlie has stopped a cross lately.

 

[ravo]

Like most young 'attacking' fullbacks, they improve defensively with experience. He had a little with Villa, but playing alongside King, Gallas and other senior players will help him no end. I think he has the potential to wear the #2 for England for many years to come.

 

[kaz Hirai]

these days being an england international means as much as being a greece international to be honest

I just hope he develops to be good enough to be a top 4 prem player, not an international for a country that should be ranked somewhere in the late 20's

 

[ravo]

these days being an england international means as much as being a greece international to be honest

I just hope he develops to be good enough to be a top 4 prem player, not an international for a country that should be ranked somewhere in the late 20's

I think (or hope) it still means a lot to some players.

 

[kaz Hirai]

im sure it does personally mean alot to players, i mean ability wise

 

[Real_madyidd]

these days being an england international means as much as being a greece international to be honest

Really? I think the current squad is pretty strong (even if most of them are ****s). As individuals they are top class, as a team they aren't all that.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Walker has been pretty good for us this season. What I like about him is unlike hutton he doesn't have to do everything himself, he knows when to pass the ball (and he knows how to pick a pass, if some of his QPR games are to go by) sometimes positionally he is a bit weak but so far he has got away with it because, my god he is quick! Defensively he has actually been a lot better then I thought he would. He is yet to make a costly error, and we are yet to concede with him in our team.

He had a good game against Liverpool, got a lot of praise, from non spurs fans. He also played well against Wolves and did well against Man utd when he was on. Its clear he is improving every game, he is young for a defender and seems a lot less defensively naive then say Johnson is now, yet alone at his age. He will be a good player, and our RB for a very long time.

Many people are giving him disrespect based on how they assume he would play against certain opposition, well I say wait until he faces such opposition, for he has done little to warrant it.

On B_C and on agrdavidsfan these are two supporters who made a judgment on him after watching him for the first time, ever since then they have been looking for Walker to prove them wrong, rather then viewing his performances from as neutral or supportive stand point, that again is unfair to Walker, who as I said before has done little wrong, BAE was a lot more error prone when he first came to us,

Please don't try and tell me how I think. You are under-qualified.

If he knows how to pick a pass, why did he waste a couple of very good opportunities to do so on Sunday, including when beautifully put through by Modric.

At one point we put together a 63 pass move in the second half. Guess who gave the ball away to end it ?

These are meaningless examples, I concede, but the points I have made about him, including in this thread, explain what I think about him, not some conclusion drawn on the first sight of him. Every sight of him has informed my opinion and will continue to do so.

But I'll say this, I'd back my first sight opinion of a player against yours over several.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

The reverse is true.

I'm pretty sure it's not.

 

[SpurSince57]

Can't prove either way if Walker would have made a difference...but Corluka was on the field and was poor,....oh and do you know that walker has played in 3 full games and the first half against man u ...and in those games we have conceeded no goals, i admit he is young and needs to brush up on his defending, but for me,Charlie is not good enough.

Fergie at man u has realised that to compete at the very top you have to have young pacey players,football has become quicker and quicker, and that is what we have in Walker...charlie is far too slow and lacks any urgency.

Pace helps a lot and can cover numerous sins, but it isn't everything—witness our experiment with Zokora at RB coming to a messy end at the hands (or rather feet) of Young, whom Charlie then proceeded to put in his pocket for the rest of the game. Hutton's no slouch, but he was so effective we had to buy a replacement in the next window.

That said, I've been impressed with Walker, although it's obvious he's got a good deal to learn. Be thankful we've got him and Charlie.

 

[3Dnata]

Some of these opinions, even the ones with big words, remind me of the threads when Bale broke back into the team under Redknapp.
There were people predicting he was going to be "torn a new one", whatever that means, against Liverpool.
He is still at the beginning of his career and I can't see what he has done for the amount of stick he gets.
We have found our new Jenas.

 

[adamthfc]

Don't get me wrong, i'm not Corluka's biggest fan as his limitations in making anything meaningful offensively irritates me but I can't ignore the fact that i've rarely seen him be turned completely inside and out from an opposing winger/forward and that Walker is very suspect on a one on one situation and in keeping line with the rest of the back four.

Like I said, Walker should be first choice at home as we should in theory have the majority of posession whoever we play but away from home when we might need to soak up a bit of pressure then as of now, I would choose Corluka - in time he will be deemed back up to Walker.

Corluka to be fair doesnt get turned inside out. Very ocasionally it happens marin tortured him but he can still be extremely weak defensively when he needs to cover the centre back or when the ball is on the opposite side of the pitch.he looks like one of those sunday players who is watching the game next door as he drifts off.his passing can also be appalling.

 

[tooey]

he won't. it'll be jones or smalling. jones especailly would be a world class RB

wrong, how much would you like to wager on it mucker :shrug:

 

[SpurSince57]

Corluka to be fair doesnt get turned inside outvery ocasionally it happens marin tortured him but he can still be extremely weak defensively when he needs to cover the full back or when the ball is on the opposite pitch.he looks like one of those sunday players who is watching the game next door as he drifts off.his passing can also be appalling.

Que?

 

[adamthfc]

Que?

Edited it was talking to the mrs and typing. falls asleep when the ball comes in from the other side.

 

[C0YS]

Please don't try and tell me how I think. You are under-qualified.

If he knows how to pick a pass, why did he waste a couple of very good opportunities to do so on Sunday, including when beautifully put through by Modric.

At one point we put together a 63 pass move in the second half. Guess who gave the ball away to end it ?

These are meaningless examples, I concede, but the points I have made about him, including in this thread, explain what I think about him, not some conclusion drawn on the first sight of him. Every sight of him has informed my opinion and will continue to do so.

But I'll say this, I'd back my first sight opinion of a player against yours over several.

You would also back your opinion over Redknapp and most managers in the PL. I was only judging based on you writting that you thought Walker was poor and nothing special, the first time you saw him play in a spurs shirt. In Spain they went crazy for him after his performance against them, he even got into the team of the tournament in that competition.

Some fans complain that he is not PL level yet. While Aston villa fans where raving about him at the end their spell.

Some say he lacks technical ability. Something he clearly lacks considering his managed to dribble past three players and rifle a shot from at least 30 yards into the bottom corner.

Some also say that Walker lacks a football brain. Even though against liverpool he made a couple of BAE moments in slipping through the offense and spring-boarding a attack. He also didn't seem to lose a single header against Carroll, someone who at one point was shifted to his flank. Walker delt with this by using his mobility and committing early before the ball could reach Carroll, being helped by Kaboul also did help however.

Then you claim that Smith looked like the better player even though Bournemouth fans where saying he had no clue how to defend. Something you criticize Walker for. Smith will most likely not make it in the PL. Walker already has.

I've watched Walker probably twice as much as you have, I know what kind of player he is. I know some of his tendencies and how he deals with certain situations. Is he the finished article? Not even close. Is he better then Corluka? Probably not. Has he got a great deal of potential? yes. Does he add balance the team when a Kranjcar or VdV is playing infront of him? yes.

I haven't however watched enough of Walker to truly understand how good he is and how he will develop in years time. But people must understand Walker is still raw, he is maturing every game, to a visible degree, I am very confident that he will have a successful professional carrier, I am also pretty confident that he will become our number one full back and will retain that position for a number of years. I might be wrong, and if I am I will hold my hands in the air and admit it.

The thing that fans have to realize is the sub-conscience works in an odd way, when people make a solid judgment on a player, they will see only what confirms there pre-existing beliefs. One must take this into account when it comes to judging players, one must never be too quick to make an opinion on one. After all its not like we see them in training every day.

 

[dynamoSpurs]

So everyone's pretty much agreed that he is a potnetially very good FB. However, we're also all pretty much agreed that he is probably the weakest link at the moment right? Given our first 11..

Do we prefer him over Charlie?