Was Harry right to criticise the fans for booing?

[jonnyrotten]

Just thought we needed a poll on this. Personally I think the booing (if aimed at the team and Harry) was totally unjustified and the deluded few were well deserving of a ticking off by the big man.

COYS, recent form doesn't mean sh1t, we have a good team and are going places.

 

[theShiznit]

Whether he is right or wrong is irrelevent.

His ego must be huge to think that he can mock the club (not just the boo boys) that pays him and think there will be no negative reaction to him.

maybe it was heat of the moment but with these words he has not done himself any favours.

Right thing to do (criticise the boo-boys) totally wrong way to do it by denegrating the club. (IMO)

 

[Mr Pink]

Whether he is right or wrong is irrelevent.

His ego must be huge to think that he can mock the club (not just the boo boys) that pays him and think there will be no negative reaction to him.

maybe it was heat of the moment but with these words he has not done himself any favours.

Right thing to do (criticise the boo-boys) totally wrong way to do it by denegrating the club. (IMO)

I totally agree, by the way I wasn't at the game but it seemed like it was more groans than boos..?

 

[Krafty]

I dont like the booing, but I really do not like Harry's comments because, deep down, I think a lot of the crowd's frustration was directed at Harry. We do not have a plan B, and several players (Modric, Hudd and VdV in particular) looked dead. To say we couldnt do any better, I think that is giving the players an excuse.

Yes we had a lot of shots but if Gordon had let any of our long range efforts in there would have been question marks over him.

Harry is struggling to get anything from players not in the starting eleven - Kranjcar, Wilson, Bassong, Keane - so isnt inclined to give them half an hour to see if they can change the game. Then when his first choice players are knackered he chucks the forgotten men into the deep end without any game time and inevitably they flounder.

I think Harry could have chosen his words a bit more carefully, because booing players when they at least try is disgusting and a disease of modern football.

 

[theShiznit]

I think the groans were during the match (like when Bentley tried another over ambitious hollywood 40 Yard shot on his left foot)

but after the match there were boos, but you get boos at every home ground up and down the country when they fail to win a game they expected to. No need to throw the toys out... (of the pram)

 

[Gilzeanking]

Whether he is right or wrong is irrelevent.

His ego must be huge to think that he can mock the club (not just the boo boys) that pays him and think there will be no negative reaction to him.

maybe it was heat of the moment but with these words he has not done himself any favours.

Right thing to do (criticise the boo-boys) totally wrong way to do it by denegrating the club. (IMO)

Agreed . It was with the boos still ringing in his ears that Harry allowed his emotions to the surface and insulted the club .I hated his Spurs interview putdown personally .

The 'not bothered' remark tied in with his clear England ambitions does underline the feeling that Harry is passing through and not exactly Spurs to the core .

True not many managers really are but harry should at least pretend and in his interview during which everyone was to blame except himself , he preferred to sarcastically slag our club off .

Not his finest moment .

 

[Dougal]

He's paid to manage the team and if hitting out at the fans while defending his team is what he deems necessary then I'm 100% behind him. Only said what I was thinking anyway. Bunch of ungrateful fuckwits.

 

[StanSpur]

totally right Harry.

 

[Gilzeanking]

Also I'd add that there are 2 types of booing that should be defined .

1. booing during the match of course affects the players negatively and so is
a bad thing .

2. booing after the game (which was what set Harry off) is an acceptable way of showing disappointment (do the fans have to applaud every full time regardless of performance ?? ridiculous). It happens up and down the country all the time .

 

[nailsy]

If the fans have a right to boo then Harry has a right to have a go at them for it. I just see it as him sticking up for his players anyway.

 

[Spurger King]

The booing was pathetic. Harry's comments were pathetic as well though.

It's the fact that we're so used to losing, and under-performing, that when it finally looks like we have turned a corner (and with our previous WHL victory over Inter very much in mind), some of the fans are frustrated that it looks like we're taking a step back.

I don't think we are, by the way, but I can definitely see why some would be unhappy with our recent league results.

 

[MattyP]

Harry was right.

Personally I couldn't really care less what words he used, the underlying message was spot on.

We as supporters rightly were praised in all quarters, Harry, players, The Press for our wonderful support last Tuesday against Inter.

Equally, we as a complete set of fans were out of order last night - not the first time either, given there were boos as the players left the pitch against Wigan when we were "only" drawing 0-0.

Fans on here, on other forums and in real life are quick to criticise the players if their performance is below par - a fair few who were responsible for their lack of support should take a look at their own performance last night and be equally as critical of themselves.

Yes, I know as supporters we are not paid £70k a week to turn up like the players are, but if you look at the definition of support I'm pretty sure booing doesn't get a mention.

 

[Mr Pink]

If the fans have a right to boo then Harry has a right to have a go at them for it. I just see it as him sticking up for his players anyway.

There are fine lines when it comes doing things properly though, thats the crux of it. He doesn't need to slag the Club off in the process, thats pathetic. By all means slag the boo boys and protect the players - thats fine, but you dont start digging at the Club in general.

 

[Mr Pink]

Harry was right.

Personally I couldn't really care less what words he used, the underlying message was spot on.

We as supporters rightly were praised in all quarters, Harry, players, The Press for our wonderful support last Tuesday against Inter.

Equally, we as a complete set of fans were out of order last night - not the first time either, given there were boos as the players left the pitch against Wigan when we were "only" drawing 0-0.

Fans on here, on other forums and in real life are quick to criticise the players if their performance is below par - a fair few who were responsible for their lack of support should take a look at their own performance last night and be equally as critical of themselves.

Yes, I know as supporters we are not paid £70k a week to turn up like the players are, but if you look at the definition of support I'm pretty sure booing doesn't get a mention.

He wasn't right with the approach he took to vent his anger, he certainly wasn't. It was hot headed if anything and you dont have a dig at the Club like that, yes by all means single out the boo boys but apply some tact in doing so.

 

[theShiznit]

Agreed . It was with the boos still ringing in his ears that Harry allowed his emotions to the surface and insulted the club .I hated his Spurs interview putdown personally .

The 'not bothered' remark tied in with his clear England ambitions does underline the feeling that Harry is passing through and not exactly Spurs to the core .

True not many managers really are but harry should at least pretend and in his interview during which everyone was to blame except himself , he preferred to sarcastically slag our club off .

Not his finest moment .

totally agree.

And i think all on this thread at least have agreed that booing individual players or during a match is not only wrong but counter-productive.

But slagging off boo boys via the club is going to alienate you from a lot of fans (not just the boo boys)

also finishing 10th isn't exactly screaming "come get me" to the FA...

 

[worcestersauce]

Haven't heard the interview so I don't know what he said but any criticism of the fans that booed is justified, what a bunch of arsholes!
Let's face it this isn't Harry being pissed off in isolation he would have read the mood in the dressing room, and no doubt the players were saying that they tried so hard and dominated the match just to get booed at the end. Imagine Gareth Bale, last week he's a hero and with all the talk of leaving he said I'm happy here at Spurs, well if I was him last night I'd say fuck'em if thats the treatment we get a week after anihilating the European champions I might as well just bugger off to where I'll be appreciated, and quite honestly good luck to him.

 

[Dougal]

Also I'd add that there are 2 types of booing that should be defined .

1. booing during the match of course affects the players negatively and so is
a bad thing .

2. booing after the game (which was what set Harry off) is an acceptable way of showing disappointment (do the fans have to applaud every full time regardless of performance ?? ridiculous). It happens up and down the country all the time .

3rd type. Panto. Which is where booing should be kept.

I know footballers are meant to be thick but if they can't work out that they should be doing better without the Widow Twankey brigade getting on their backs then they should be put in care.

 

[Tottenham_OZpur]

Whether he is right or wrong is irrelevent.

His ego must be huge to think that he can mock the club (not just the boo boys) that pays him and think there will be no negative reaction to him.

maybe it was heat of the moment but with these words he has not done himself any favours.

Right thing to do (criticise the boo-boys) totally wrong way to do it by denegrating the club. (IMO)

Agree mostly with this, while I prefer no booing, the fans have the right, just like Harry has to defend against it. I would hate to hear it during the game though.

Wrong way to do it as you said though and Harry isn't immune to legit criticism, he is the man in charge, so he has to own up to some of the blame.

The fact is we are inconsistent, lack ideas, lack a change of gameplan when things don't go well etc and have ready made excuses for whenever we fail to beat a side we should and we all know we had this problem last season too, that is not knee jerk.

Our bench would make plenty teams starting lineups, so injuries while hurting, that excuse doesn't cut it.

 

[MattyP]

He wasn't right with the approach to took to vent his anger, he certainly wasn't. It was hot headed if anything and you dont have a dig at the Club like that, yes by all means single out the boo boys but apply some tact in doing so.

Had he applied some tact it would not have got the coverage that this outburst has got, I'm pretty certain of that.

If it stops the idiots from booing (big if I know) as a result of this outburst then ultimately it would have been worthwhile in my opinion.

Harry has never been known for his tact (just ask Darren Bent) and whilst I'll never be his biggest fan I am more than willing to accept his faults as a result of what he has achieved at the club since he's been here.

He can call me a **** to my face for all I care (not that I am a booer), if he keeps on getting us to progress season on season as he has done so far then that'll more than outweigh a few misplaced words.

 

[theShiznit]

Haven't heard the interview so I don't know what he said .

here is a quote;

He added when asked about the boos from the home fans on the final whistle: “What have they got to moan about? What they see here and what they’ve seen here.
“We couldn’t have done any more tonight; we couldn’t have tried any harder.”
He continued: “At the end of the day, you’ve got (Aaron) Lennon, you’ve got (Jermain) Defoe, you’ve got (Ledley) King and you’ve got (Michael) Dawson – you’ve got key players missing.
“I couldn’t come in and say we were crap or we didn’t play well.
“We worked our socks off.”
And in a jibe laced with irony, he said of the supporters: “They’ve had it so good over the years, you see.
“When you keep winning league championships every year, you get upset when you don’t win.”