We are totally underprepared

[Stoof]

The only problem with VDV is that he doesnt have a natural strike partner.

Why? Because Redknapp hadn't planned to buy him. We'd missed on all our striking targets and he became a last minute bargain.

He is a fantastic player but he isn't what we needed last year. For all the good he does we would have benefitted more as a team if we'd just signed the striker we needed.

Last years goal drought is mostly because none of Defoe, Crouch and Pav are capable or happy playing on their own.

I'm delighted to have him but it distracted some fans from the fact that we still hadn't fixed a problem we'd noticed the season before.

I partly agree again. Although who?

Who is this striker? Who is he? Who?!

Who. :-(

 

[talkshowhost86]

We are going in circles. We literally agree, but you can't see it.

We are trying to sign players, I'm not disputing that. It's how. I just feel in terms of the massive hole in our squad, and to show Luka the ambition Levy harps on we have at the Club, he and Harry should have identified a main target and signed it.

We need to get rid I agree. But when people come in for them, from what we are hearing, takers are few and far between, and we aint really making things easy by asking for a lot of money. We we're quoted to be askign £20m for Crouch and Palacios. That's mad. Giovani begged to go to Sevilla. For 2m euros we are holding out for him to choose Udinese.

It's this slow, long drawn out process that goes on in all transfers regarding Spurs over the last year, that make us an unnattractive club to do business with, and why we're being fucked about.

Don't post something that simplistic and then tell me that 'I can't see it'.

I think we've identified plenty of targets and have come against problems for all of them. Llorente, Rossi, Vucinic etc. This idea that Harry hasn't identified targets seems daft to me. He clearly has but unfortunately it's not as easy as 'identify player, sign player'.

 

[talkshowhost86]

One criticism I will make of the club (and I don't know where the blame lies for this) is that we don't seem to have been able to find any lower priced players, who may be more realistic, through our scouting system.

We need to be looking at players like Chicharito and Adebayor (pre-Arsenal). This would prevent us having to get into a spending competition with the likes of City and Chelsea.

Obviously again it's not easy, but there must be players out there who don't cost 20m+ but who could improve us...particularly when it comes to the strikers.

 

[ThorntonSpur]

and our record transfer fee is more than arsenals

 

[PT]

One criticism I will make of the club (and I don't know where the blame lies for this) is that we don't seem to have been able to find any lower priced players, who may be more realistic, through our scouting system.

We need to be looking at players like Chicharito and Adebayor (pre-Arsenal). This would prevent us having to get into a spending competition with the likes of City and Chelsea.

Obviously again it's not easy, but there must be players out there who don't cost 20m+ but who could improve us...particularly when it comes to the strikers.

I'd prefer to save money on the potential fulfilling potential and play Harry Kane until he is bedded in and scoring for fun.

 

[dimiSpur]

Don't post something that simplistic and then tell me that 'I can't see it'.

I think we've identified plenty of targets and have come against problems for all of them. Llorente, Rossi, Vucinic etc. This idea that Harry hasn't identified targets seems daft to me. He clearly has but unfortunately it's not as easy as 'identify player, sign player'.

That's what I mean, we identify a bunch, and feel we can go around looking for the best deal possible instead of looking at who would actually be the best player for us.

We didn't risk signing Rossi for £17m last summer, now he's worth £29m and Harry loves him. We didn't sign Suarez for £23m and now we're going mad at how great he is. We couldn't agree a fee for Leandro over apparently £3-4m and now his price has doubled.

Assuming we have the £35m Levy spouted about on January 31st, we should have just said "this is the player for Spurs" and gone out and got him early doors. If that was unviable, the next one. After that, the next one. I'm sure one of those in the 2 months the window has been open would have been viable. Instead it's August 23rd and we don't know what's going on and we're struggling to sign Adebayor on loan.

 

[NEVILLEB]

I partly agree again. Although who?

Who is this striker? Who is he? Who?!

Who. :-(

Adebayor is a very good choice

You basically need someone 6ft and over, quick, strong, great touch, vision, heading and a good finisher.

You want someone you can ping a ball at with two players on their back. They bring the ball perfectly under control and then either twist away or play in a team mate. In other words not Defoe, Crouch or Pav!

Berbatov would have been perfect.

 

[NEVILLEB]

One criticism I will make of the club (and I don't know where the blame lies for this) is that we don't seem to have been able to find any lower priced players, who may be more realistic, through our scouting system.

We need to be looking at players like Chicharito and Adebayor (pre-Arsenal). This would prevent us having to get into a spending competition with the likes of City and Chelsea.

Obviously again it's not easy, but there must be players out there who don't cost 20m+ but who could improve us...particularly when it comes to the strikers.

Pekhart, Taarabt, Dos Santos, Boateng, Bostock, Parrett, etc

We have a habit of not developing youth talent. A DOF who didn't decide first team purchases would have worked.

 

[brett.spurs]

This season was always going to be a write off anyway, hopefully we concentrate on the Europa as it's there for us to win.

 

[talkshowhost86]

That's what I mean, we identify a bunch, and feel we can go around looking for the best deal possible instead of looking at who would actually be the best player for us.

We didn't risk signing Rossi for £17m last summer, now he's worth £29m and Harry loves him. We didn't sign Suarez for £23m and now we're going mad at how great he is. We couldn't agree a fee for Leandro over apparently £3-4m and now his price has doubled.

Assuming we have the £35m Levy spouted about on January 31st, we should have just said "this is the player for Spurs" and gone out and got him early doors. If that was unviable, the next one. After that, the next one. I'm sure one of those in the 2 months the window has been open would have been viable. Instead it's August 23rd and we don't know what's going on and we're struggling to sign Adebayor on loan.

There has to be more thought to it than that.

Our two biggest signings were players who we went out and spent over the odds for, seemingly operating exactly the way that you outlined above. And how did they do for us?

Also it's all very well agreeing the fee (which I suspect we did with Vucinic for example) but the wages is a pretty insurmountable issue due to our small stadium.

I think what's annoying is this idea that it's easy. It's not and people would be well minded to remember that.

Incidentally if we are believing all the ITK, which you seem to be using to make all your assumptions, we've been after Adebayor since June. That shows you that we do have identified targets and we're still after some of them. But it simply isn't as easy as you make it out to be.

 

[cunn1ngstunt]

Can't help thinking if we had had Modric in the team yesterday we may well have got the first goal and at the very least avoided defeat. I also believe the Hearts game although good for morale and fluidity in our play failed to provide any real fitness benefit to our players and that showed last 20 minutes of a tough tough fixture. Our fixation with long range efforts also hindered our fluidity and use of good situations. I was impressed with Van der Vaarts fitness though and just feel with Modric's extra bit of guile, workrate and experience it would have helped livermore not try to plug every hole. Not sure if this is the right thread to post analysis on but if someone could point me in the right direction i'll happily re post ....... still new to this forum malarkey.

 

[dimiSpur]

There has to be more thought to it than that.

Our two biggest signings were players who we went out and spent over the odds for, seemingly operating exactly the way that you outlined above. And how did they do for us?

Also it's all very well agreeing the fee (which I suspect we did with Vucinic for example) but the wages is a pretty insurmountable issue due to our small stadium.

I think what's annoying is this idea that it's easy. It's not and people would be well minded to remember that.

Incidentally if we are believing all the ITK, which you seem to be using to make all your assumptions, we've been after Adebayor since June. That shows you that we do have identified targets and we're still after some of them. But it simply isn't as easy as you make it out to be.

Ok, we are well prepared, I'm glad we have all our signings done (Friedel) and we look good for the City game.

 

[talkshowhost86]

Ok, we are well prepared, I'm glad we have all our signings done (Friedel) and we look good for the City game.

Did I ever say we had all our signings done?

Also is it Levy or Harry's fault that Modric is being an arse? That Sandro and Gallas are injured? No of course it isn't.

 

[dimiSpur]

It's their fault we havent signed ANYONE and it's August 23rd though.

 

[dimiSpur]

Or sold anyone for that matter.

 

[talkshowhost86]

It's their fault we havent signed ANYONE and it's August 23rd though.

There are 11 pages of posts which explain how it isn't necessarily 'their fault' and that it certainly isn't all 'their fault'.

Maybe you should go back to blaming our lack of preparedness on our friendly schedule. At least that wasn't so repetitive.

 

[dimiSpur]

There are 11 pages of posts which explain how it isn't necessarily 'their fault' and that it certainly isn't all 'their fault'.

Maybe you should go back to blaming our lack of preparedness on our friendly schedule. At least that wasn't so repetitive.

So you don't think the club has been 100% on the button this summer in all areas?

 

[talkshowhost86]

Ok, we are well prepared, I'm glad we have all our signings done (Friedel) and we look good for the City game.

So you don't think the club has been 100% on the button this summer in all areas?

What is this some kind of riddle? :grin:

 

[dimiSpur]

:lol: after 11 pages I've got confused and also lost the will to live a little bit

Let's just pray we sign that motherfucker Adebayor by the 1st of September or Spurs Chat is doomed. :lol:

 

[Misfit]

Hang on hang on hang on....

In the past two seasons we've stagnated?

Really?

Have we?

Or have we qualified for the Champions League in one season then gone on a great run in the Champions League season whilst only missing out on 4th due to the ridiculous spending of our nearest rivals?

Jesus if you think we've stagnated in the last two seasons I dread to think what you'd be like if you were an Everton or a Villa fan. Or in fact a Spurs fan pre-Levy.

Understand what you're saying but disagree. 3 pts from 12 against the bottom 4 in consecutive games is what did it. Shot ourselves in the foot. We missed out on the top 4 through our own short-comings. Not because the top 4 were immortal and untouchable.

Sorry for the aside, I guess even after all the therapy I've had since, I still can't get over that.

This season, were we to end up not bringing in a couple of extra bodies, would see us left for dead, imo. Get in those extra pieces and we'll be right there with assnal and red scouse for 4th.