We would have been 2nd :(

[kevinfish]

if we had have taken maximum points in both home and away matches against the current bottom 3 teams (Blackpool, Wigan and West Ham) we would have 15 more points and would be sitting 2nd in the league right now. even if every other match had have stayed the same thats what we could have had right now

On the other hand it is something that should be improved on and that position pushed for next season.

 

[ginol@14]

and thats the reason why crouch defoe and pav should all be moved on in the summer and replaced with strikers with quality and the hunger to win games

those 3 clowns have cost us big time this season

 

[invictaspur]

out of interest, has any team beaten the bottom three home and away this season?

 

[kevinfish]

only two goals in total scored against the three of them. one away by pav against blackpool and one at home by defoe by blackpool. none neither home nor away against wigan or west ham...

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

shoulda, woulda, coulda

 

[YidGraham]

out of interest, has any team beaten the bottom three home and away this season?

Was thinking along the same lines so checked up on the results for the top 4.

The only team who has dropped points so far are the goons away to Wigan which ended in a draw (after an 81 OG). Apart from that all wins.

Only fixture left from the top 4 vs bottom 3 is Man Utd at home to Blackpool last game.

 

[spursontheloose]

We know all this.

Next!

 

[DeeJay_Yid]

And i shoulda known my Wife's dad was alcoholic so she bans the sight of any alcohol in the house.

Shoulda known this before i married her. Now i need to explain why i don't stay in on SAT nights and nip off to the pub.

"What? A pint of milk at 9 pm?" I'll get it!"

Sorry what was the thread about again? Maybe?, Shoulda? Woulda?

 

[Spurz]

We didn't play well enough all season to qualify, we weren't unlucky, in fact I think we are pretty lucky to be so high up the table despite how dismal we played. Just want this season to be over, get the deadwood out, get some quality in, those with winning mentalities, and come back stronger and better next season.

 

[Maske2g]

If my aunt had a cock, she'd be my uncle.

 

[YidGraham]

We didn't play well enough all season to qualify, we weren't unlucky, in fact I think we are pretty lucky to be so high up the table despite how dismal we played. Just want this season to be over, get the deadwood out, get some quality in, those with winning mentalities, and come back stronger and better next season.

I do agree that haven't particular played well all season. But no one has been particularly great.

The teams above us were just ruthlessly efficient against these bottom three teams. We've outperformed (gained more points than) Chelsea, Man City and the goons outside of these 6 games.

Purely on these 6 games City and Chelsea have gained 15 points on us and the goons 13.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

If my aunt had a cock, she'd be my uncle.

Who'd be your aunt then ?

 

[razza]

someone please send this to harry as he thinks we didn't get 4th because man city have more money and thats it..

 

[Maske2g]

Who'd be your aunt then ?

His transexual manwife??!?

 

[cozzo]

Arsenal have just as much to be upset about, the amount of points they dropped from winning positions and home points dropped to newcastle and west brom. They should have ran away with the title.

 

[Bobbins]

No need to have a go at the OP, it's a very important point.

We may not have played very well for much of the season, but we still managed to grind out results (beating Blackburn and Sunderland away, for example) and get wins when we needed to at times.

Also, no-one has actually played very well this season. Not United, not Arsenal, not Chelsea, not City. Every team has either had a slump or never got out of second gear. That's why the points totals are so low, and the relegation battle so close.

Partly it's because those teams at the bottom have become even more difficult to beat and partly it's because the league as a whole is slightly weaker than in the past (no Ronaldo, Rooney on poor form for a long time, Chelsea's ageing squad etc).

This isn't an excuse. In fact this really was the season when we could push on and compete at the very top, if only we'd managed to get a couple of goals past the bottom sides. We failed, and that's mostly down to the strikers. All the other top teams also had the bottom sides defending against them for 90 minutes with 11 men, but they almost always managed to find a way through with a goal. We didn't.

Now Liverpool have and will continue to improve, Chelsea will massively refresh their squad, United will because Fergie knows they have a very mediocre team now, and obviously so will City to push on now they're in the CL. Unfortunately most of these sides also have a big new owner behind them to fund it all as well.

I'm worried for us next season, because not only with the top teams be competing with us this summer for players, but the other sides below us are becoming harder and harder to beat. I can see us finishing anywhere from 4th to 8th next season and a lot of that will depend on who we can sign up front and how well they can settle in and adapt to the PL.

 

[guate]

Bobbins mate you make a lot of sense with your above comments.

 

[Dannyspur]

shoulda, woulda, coulda

next season's forward line?

 

[StartingPrice]

if we had have taken maximum points in both home and away matches against the current bottom 3 teams (Blackpool, Wigan and West Ham) we would have 15 more points and would be sitting 2nd in the league right now. even if every other match had have stayed the same thats what we could have had right now

On the other hand it is something that should be improved on and that position pushed for next season.

I can't really be bothered going into exact maths, and exact hypothertical poisition based on a further X points, but:
Someone make a list of our games against the bottom 5, where we had 8 points from a possible 30. Without going overboard, I would suggest that a team competing at the top (sic.) of the table should be taking more like 20 points out of 30 (and that's a conservative estimate. That is 12 points (give or take), that we could legitimately expect to have.
Where would we be with those 12 points?

 

[PT]

I can't really be bothered going into exact maths, and exact hypothertical poisition based on a further X points, but:
Someone make a list of our games against the bottom 5, where we had 8 points from a possible 30. Without going overboard, I would suggest that a team competing at the top (sic.) of the table should be taking more like 20 points out of 30 (and that's a conservative estimate. That is 12 points (give or take), that we could legitimately expect to have.
Where would we be with those 12 points?

Should we have expected three points from Ar5ena1 away? Or rescued a point against the same team at home after being 3-1 down?