Welcome to the plateau!

[Harry_Snatch]

This is not a dig at Levy. I think he's doing a good job of keeping the club solvent at the peak of it's potential.

But


This is the umpteenth window where anybody with half a brain can see that the very public chases of expensive players aren't going to happen and these players are always the 'push over the threshold' type players. It's actually an insult that we are still meant to buy into the Leandro chase now.

What is the fear at board level?
If the club doesn't at least fail in a high publicity, big money move every window, the fans will see that as a lack of ambition?

Right now, Spurs is very similar to Stoke, we have gone as far as we can. It's not really the club or Daniel Levy's fault but more of an indictment of the premier league and the lack of salary caps or competitive chance in the structure of football in general.

I don't think that the club should risk insolvency and blow the wage structure / transfer budget for 1 or 2 players if they can stay where they are without doing it. 5th with the odd 4th is where we are in the grand scheme of things. You can either be depressed and stop buying tickets or become disillusioned with football.... or just get on with it and enjoy when the quality players we have perform and not really give a shit about the odd drab game that will always happen same goes with the eventual fail to get champions league football. So what?


The new stadium, promised land is exactly the same as well. It won't make us bigger than the goons or any more likely to compete financially with Chelsea or City or UTD. We won't suddenly start signing the Wilians and Damiao's of the world because there are more people at the game. Newcastle have a huge stadium, they ain't buying no 20m player either. We will sell Bale in the summer or at best the summer after and we'll make a very tidy profit and have provided the elite with a very entertaining player. Basically we will have performed our function as a club to perfection.

Contrary to all the Levy out, no ambition BS, surely Spurs are one of the best run clubs in European football especially when it comes to doing our job. Levy deserves credit for that. At least our role isn't to provide laughing stock fodder for the rags anymore as it was for years.

 

[Sp3akerboxxx]

This is not a dig at Levy. I think he's doing a good job of keeping the club solvent at the peak of it's potential.

But


This is the umpteenth window where anybody with half a brain can see that the very public chases of expensive players aren't going to happen and these players are always the 'push over the threshold' type players. It's actually an insult that we are still meant to buy into the Leandro chase now.

What is the fear at board level?
If the club doesn't at least fail in a high publicity, big money move every window, the fans will see that as a lack of ambition?

Right now, Spurs is very similar to Stoke, we have gone as far as we can. It's not really the club or Daniel Levy's fault but more of an indictment of the premier league and the lack of salary caps or competitive chance in the structure of football in general.

I don't think that the club should risk insolvency and blow the wage structure / transfer budget for 1 or 2 players if they can stay where they are without doing it. 5th with the odd 4th is where we are in the grand scheme of things. You can either be depressed and stop buying tickets or become disillusioned with football.... or just get on with it and enjoy when the quality players we have perform and not really give a shit about the odd drab game that will always happen same goes with the eventual fail to get champions league football. So what?


The new stadium, promised land is exactly the same as well. It won't make us bigger than the goons or any more likely to compete financially with Chelsea or City or UTD. We won't suddenly start signing the Wilians and Damiao's of the world because there are more people at the game. Newcastle have a huge stadium, they ain't buying no 20m player either. We will sell Bale in the summer or at best the summer after and we'll make a very tidy profit and have provided the elite with a very entertaining player. Basically we will have performed our function as a club to perfection.

Contrary to all the Levy out, no ambition BS, surely Spurs are one of the best run clubs in European football especially when it comes to doing our job. Levy deserves credit for that. At least our role isn't to provide laughing stock fodder for the rags anymore as it was for years.

Yes Newcastle have a large stadium, but it costs about £2.50 and a packet of wotsits to get in. Arsenal's stadium is smaller than Old Trafford, but generates far more income, and far more than any other stadium in the country.

 

[kr1978]

Agree with everything you said but the new stadium will mean at least £1m more in income every home match as well as increases in hospitality income etc. That surely will mean more money for players in the long term

 

[Harry_Snatch]

Yes Newcastle have a large stadium, but it costs about £2.50 and a packet of wotsits to get in. Arsenal's stadium is smaller than Old Trafford, but generates far more income, and far more than any other stadium in the country.

Ok fine but how much are Arsenal investing in their squad these days. Tbh you have confirmed what I am thinking even more.

 

[kr1978]

Ok fine but how much are Arsenal investing in their squad these days. Tbh you have confirmed what I am thinking even more.

They have a massive wage bill

 

[Jonjo91]

They have a massive wage bill

And very rich directors and one of the best paid managers in world football

 

[punkisback]

Our problem is we only seem to be able to identify the expensive players. We need to go for the rough Diamonds and develop them into quality players.

 

[Kendall]

Our problem is we only seem to be able to identify the expensive players. We need to go for the rough Diamonds and develop them into quality players.

As if any spurs fan has patience for that. Ade goes through a couple of games of poor form and everyone wants him out.

 

[Legacy]

As if any spurs fan has patience for that. Ade goes through a couple of games of poor form and everyone wants him out.

The hard time Ade has been getting is, I think, largely due to his poor attitude and lack of effort in those games.

 

[Spurger King]

As if any spurs fan has patience for that. Ade goes through a couple of games of poor form and everyone wants him out.

But don't you get it? He used to play for Arsenal and immediately becomes crap as soon as he signs a contract. The fact that he was one of our best players last season and hasn't had an opportunity to find any form so far due to injuries and the ACN, shouldn't get in the way of a good old fashioned witch hunt.

 

[dannythomas]

But don't you get it? He used to play for Arsenal and immediately becomes crap as soon as he signs a contract. The fact that he was one of our best players last season and hasn't had an opportunity to find any form so far due to injuries and the ACN, shouldn't get in the way of a good old fashioned witch hunt.

When Adebayor has played this season he has played behind Defoe and that is not his natural role. I think he will be a different player if he is allowed to play up top with Holby in the VDV position.

 

[fortworthspur]

Ade has more than a couple of games of poor form. He's been a massive disappointment this season - out of shape, then injured, then banned, then in Africa - he has 2 goals to show for himself. I hope he comes good, because he and Holtby are our best shot at improving for the stretch run. But people are justified in being disappointed with Ade.

 

[faymantaray]

I refuse to get excited about selling the likes of Bale for 'a very tidy profit' (it's not my fucking money) unless the money is immediately and visibly invested into the squad.

I think analysing things like a club's 'role' and the limits to what it can achieve and being told to be content with that really makes you question what the point of football is..

We are potentially a couple of not necessarily expensive players (other clubs eg. Everton have demonstrated this) from challenging for the title every year but to do this and to put ourselves in a position to strengthen in the summer and most importantly keep Bale, we must qualify for the CL. And we are in a terrific position to do so. Yet Arsenal are more experienced and have an apparently easier run in.

We are so absolutely desperate for another striker to see the season out, even one more modest than Leandro, some one new and different to sit on the bench even. I love Ade so much but the historically the form of players returning from the ACN has not been great.. I seem to remember a few years ago us banking on our saviour Mido o return and sort us out and it never really happened. Anyway if he returns and does a job I'll be happy but it has to be said that we've made things difficult for ourselves. For a start until then our only options upfront are a half fit Defoe who is mediocre at the best of times and Dempsey/Kane?

 

[RichSpur58]

I would have been quite happy with a decent cheapish striker to come of the bench and make a difference. Lisandro or Gomis could have been had for 6-8m and would have made such a difference.

At the moment we have no plan b. 0-0 after 70 mins with Ade and Defoe on the pitch, who do we throw on to win the game?

 

[dk-yid]

The hard time Ade has been getting is, I think, largely due to his poor attitude and lack of effort in those games.

I agree that is why he is getting a hard time. But I also think this is unwarranted.

 

[Kendall]

I refuse to get excited about selling the likes of Bale for 'a very tidy profit' (it's not my fucking money) unless the money is immediately and visibly invested into the squad.

I think analysing things like a club's 'role' and the limits to what it can achieve and being told to be content with that really makes you question what the point of football is..

We are potentially a couple of not necessarily expensive players (other clubs eg. Everton have demonstrated this) from challenging for the title every year but to do this and to put ourselves in a position to strengthen in the summer and most importantly keep Bale, we must qualify for the CL. And we are in a terrific position to do so. Yet Arsenal are more experienced and have an apparently easier run in.

We are so absolutely desperate for another striker to see the season out, even one more modest than Leandro, some one new and different to sit on the bench even. I love Ade so much but the historically the form of players returning from the ACN has not been great.. I seem to remember a few years ago us banking on our saviour Mido o return and sort us out and it never really happened. Anyway if he returns and does a job I'll be happy but it has to be said that we've made things difficult for ourselves. For a start until then our only options upfront are a half fit Defoe who is mediocre at the best of times and Dempsey/Kane?

Everton are really pushing for the title.

 

[SoulDog]

I am so disappointed! Defoe upfront on his own

 

[Harry_Snatch]

I refuse to get excited about selling the likes of Bale for 'a very tidy profit' (it's not my fucking money) unless the money is immediately and visibly invested into the squad.

I think analysing things like a club's 'role' and the limits to what it can achieve and being told to be content with that really makes you question what the point of football is..

We are potentially a couple of not necessarily expensive players (other clubs eg. Everton have demonstrated this) from challenging for the title every year but to do this and to put ourselves in a position to strengthen in the summer and most importantly keep Bale, we must qualify for the CL. And we are in a terrific position to do so. Yet Arsenal are more experienced and have an apparently easier run in.

We are so absolutely desperate for another striker to see the season out, even one more modest than Leandro, some one new and different to sit on the bench even. I love Ade so much but the historically the form of players returning from the ACN has not been great.. I seem to remember a few years ago us banking on our saviour Mido o return and sort us out and it never really happened. Anyway if he returns and does a job I'll be happy but it has to be said that we've made things difficult for ourselves. For a start until then our only options upfront are a half fit Defoe who is mediocre at the best of times and Dempsey/Kane?

1. Fair enough, it's definitely a lot less exciting than watching him play.

2. Entertainment. If there is only ever 2 clubs per league ( except maybe the bundesliga ) that can win there is very little point in being any more passionately engaged than that imo. Especially with the extortionate amount of money players are earning and even they don't give a shit. Watching Bale score goals like he did vs Norwich is great entertainment. I'll be honest though, if I am watching the game on TV and it's crap, I turn it off. Probably makes me a ''plastic fan'' and all of my opinions on this post BS in some peoples opinion and fair enough. Obviously if I have found the 100 odd quid it costs for the day to a game then I'll enjoy what it's all about; the fan banter, singing and atmosphere in the stadium regardless of what the game is like.

 

[JimmyG2]

Spending £20 million+ on a half decent striker is hardly putting the whole Spurs economy at risk.
This saga has gone on for some time and we are left now with an injured Defoe
who isn't scoring anyway and an absent Ade (who isn't scoring anyway)
Obika and Harry Kane to see us through the rest of the season.
A season where we had more than a good chance of making the Champions League.
Its called investment or even insurance and the rewards of CL football
would more than repay the money spent.

We may still make it but it will be more luck than judgment.

 

[jimmy-jojo]

As if any spurs fan has patience for that. Ade goes through a couple of games of poor form and everyone wants him out.

I'm not condoning the criticism of Ade, but he is an established international footballer with many years experience. I'm certain the Spurs faithful would far more patient with a young upcoming prospect.