Well, upon further reflection, and watching todays match...

[Azrael]

I wouldn't have wanted SA two months ago, but the fact is that I'd rather have Christian Gross back than put up with whats going on right now.

 

[lazarus]

Panic drives people into making irrational decisions.

The fear of the worst thing that could happen; going down, is starting to make some people loose track of the bigger picture.

I've been going to the lane long enough to know that we have the best squad I've seen in too long, and while I may not have wanted his appointment; Ramos is a winning manager who shows all the qualities of becoming a truly great manager.

So enough with the speculation already.

 

[batigol]

I have to say this......I think JJ was one of the worst if not the worst player on the field. Of course Bentley come close. I would so so much rather have O'Hara playing than JJ. I'm sorry DC Boy but this is really how I feel after watching his limp performance where he practically gave away every ball in the first few minutes and gave the most uninspiring performance a captain on the field can give. If Woodgate isn't given the captaincy then we are lost because JJ cannot lead us anywhere and based on this evidence....he shouldn't even be playing. Don't tell me that he is one of our best in midfield because on this evidence, he is not. He is just as bad as most of them if not worse. I just wish that we still have Tainio or Steed.....we had a lot more fight then.

Of course, it is not entirely just his fault as every other player is just as culpable but I am so sick of him playing the way he does. Big time rant which I have never done before so pardon this....but I just need to let it out. Maybe I will fine tomorrow....maybe I will even think JJ is worthy of a place in squad....but right now nothing does it for me. I just fear for Spurs now because we have no one who can stand up and be counted for in this dire times.

 

[PT]

Good to see you aboard again Laz - it's been...quieter without you!!

There was fight on that park today. It's the rest of them vs us and we don't care.

Maybe with two straight reds, the players will start to realise it's up to them. And don't blame Gomes for coming out to take out the threat of those throw ins - if it had been Robinson Corluka would still be on the park and we'd be three down.

We don't need a management restructure - we need our players to stand up and be counted.

 

[batigol]

We don't need a management restructure - we need our players to stand up and be counted.

Exactly what I think too. Look at my post. No one is willing to stand one. Everyone is scared and that fear spreads. When you see your captain so scared at the start of the match, everybody just gets scared too.

Like I said, we lost all the players who actually are willing to stand up and fight for Spurs like Tainio and Steed and the only one I think who does in midfield, O'hara, doesn't play. I bet that we would have alot more bite if O'Hara played because he really cares.

 

[MrsKeane]

I'd have Souness rather than Allerdyce, Souness had his head screwed on when Dyer and Bowyer thought, maybe he is the one to gives us backbone when we need it AND he was suggested to us a while ago and he always has discipline what we need BADLY! :think:

 

[lazarus]

Good to see you aboard again Laz - it's been...quieter without you!!

There was fight on that park today. It's the rest of them vs us and we don't care.

Maybe with two straight reds, the players will start to realise it's up to them. And don't blame Gomes for coming out to take out the threat of those throw ins - if it had been Robinson Corluka would still be on the park and we'd be three down.

We don't need a management restructure - we need our players to stand up and be counted.

Alright Potters,

I'll bet it has been quieter...

I think some of the players are starting to get a bit of fire in there bellies, and I think Ramos may need to start having a bit less faith in technique and a bit more reliance on muscle.

My worst fear though; is that blind panic will make us throw away the best team (in terms of board, management and players) we've had in too many years.

So what if we post a couple of bad quarters? or even a bad year? (and I mean REAl bad). I think everything is there for a winning set up.

Remember that our relegation in the 70's was followed by our best years since the days of Sir Bill Nick (RIP).

So people need to chill out.

 

[stevie147]

He isn't the terrible manager people are making him out to be. Wouldn't have him here though.

 

[DC_Boy]

Its not like Spurs have been entertaining us with great football over the last 10 years though is it? We've been one of the least creative teams in recent years. Most of our goals from the last two years have come purely from Berbatov and Keane scoring and creating between themselves whilst our midfield were non existant.

did you see those 2 seasons where we scored 100 goals +?

two of three seasons where our record was 5th 5th and winners of lge cup and clearly the 5th best footballing side in England - maybe higher, and the 5th most successful side in England -full stop

 

[DC_Boy]

I have to say this......I think JJ was one of the worst if not the worst player on the field. Of course Bentley come close. I would so so much rather have O'Hara playing than JJ. I'm sorry DC Boy but this is really how I feel after watching his limp performance where he practically gave away every ball in the first few minutes and gave the most uninspiring performance a captain on the field can give. If Woodgate isn't given the captaincy then we are lost because JJ cannot lead us anywhere and based on this evidence....he shouldn't even be playing. Don't tell me that he is one of our best in midfield because on this evidence, he is not. He is just as bad as most of them if not worse. I just wish that we still have Tainio or Steed.....we had a lot more fight then.

Of course, it is not entirely just his fault as every other player is just as culpable but I am so sick of him playing the way he does. Big time rant which I have never done before so pardon this....but I just need to let it out. Maybe I will fine tomorrow....maybe I will even think JJ is worthy of a place in squad....but right now nothing does it for me. I just fear for Spurs now because we have no one who can stand up and be counted for in this dire times.

Hi BG you are kidding right - if you want to single out someone - single out bale

JJ was our best mid today - modric time and again was bundled off the ball, gave it away - zoko did ok at LB - but when we had 11 - it was JJ carrying the fight more than any other mid

 

[theaman]

Hi BG you are kidding right - if you want to single out someone - single out bale

JJ was our best mid today - modric time and again was bundled off the ball, gave it away - zoko did ok at LB - but when we had 11 - it was JJ carrying the fight more than any other mid

Jenas the best mid today? Eek

Thought he was dreadful yet again.

Modric and Lennon were the only sparks who looked like creating something.

The sooner Jenas has his captaincy removed, the better. He might find some form because he is no leader.

Generally though, his passing and set piece-taking has been abysmal for too long as was evident in this game.

Made one interception which I can remember today. And that was it...

 

[laneoflegends]

Modric looked ok when we had a spell in the first half but could not get in the game when we were under pressure. He was easily knocked off the ball and only saw him make one tackle.
Bale should be rested imo before we ruin another hot prospect.

 

[DC_Boy]

Jenas the best mid today? Eek

Thought he was dreadful yet again.

Modric and Lennon were the only sparlks who looked like creating something.

The sooner Jenas has his captaincy removed, the better. He might find some form because he is no leader.

Generally though, his passing and set piece-taking has been abysmal for too long as was evident in this game.

Made one interception which I can remember today. And that was it...

that'll be the player who set up bent with a good chance early on with his pass

I wait the stats with interest - the game I saw Modric lost possession more than JJ either through bad passes or simply getting knocked off the ball

if we're counting lennon as a mid - I await again the stats - who made more successful passes , tackles etc

it may be jj comes out worst of the the three today

I am quite confident that over the season so far JJ will be ahead of both of them

so far in end product he has one goal and one assist - better than modric and equal to lennon's two assists

in terms of ground covered, successful passes made. tackles made, interceptions, I'll be surprised if he's not ahead of lennon this season - he certainly will be over the time he and lennon have been here -

 

[Rackybear]

Its just a complete shambles.....

Everything from the top to the bottom of the club.

 

[VegasII]

SA wouldn't be too bad. He's available, can set us up in the league & has european experience. He's got a lot of character, a strong personality & he'd be really up for the job. If we did still go down then he also has Championship experience.

 

[theaman]

that'll be the player who set up bent with a good chance early on with his pass

I wait the stats with interest - the game I saw Modric lost possession more than JJ either through bad passes or simply getting knocked off the ball

if we're counting lennon as a mid - I await again the stats - who made more successful passes , tackles etc

it may be jj comes out worst of the the three today

I am quite confident that over the season so far JJ will be ahead of both of them

so far in end product he has one goal and one assist - better than modric and equal to lennon's two assists

in terms of ground covered, successful passes made. tackles made, interceptions, I'll be surprised if he's not ahead of lennon this season - he certainly will be over the time he and lennon have been here -

The thing with Jenas is he'll run, maybe beat a man, and then lose it and we're back to square one again.

He's meant to be our leader but lacks that impact - both in terms of driving the team on and also his footballing game.

Not saying it's his fault that he's in that position but that is the case. And as it is, he needs to stand up and be counted. He's not doing his job properly. Creating a chance for Bent as his only good moment of the game? That's incredulous. He makes a few tackles here and there, but only noted about two interceptions today.

He covers ground but doesn't do much with the ball and his shooting and set-piece delivery is woeful. Late on he waved Modric away from free kick, and then promptly sent the free kick wayward.

With Modric, yes he did get knocked off the ball but he showed some nice skill and wasn't afraid to have a go, and was very close right near the end with his hassling. Modric has only played a handful of games in the Prem and looks like he's still getting used to ithe Englih game.

Jenas is used to the game, he knows what to expect and as captain of a team like Spurs, he needs to demonstrate his ability.

And at the moment he is demonstrating his ability is way below-par.

 

[3Dnata]

Please God NO.It was bad enough having to sit through George Graham.

.....and anyway who would take all our long throws.



......seriously though, i'd give up my season ticket. I remember watching Bolton playing at WHL and If that's how your supposed to play football then i'll slit my wrists.

Exactly and Alladyce is a 3rd rate George Graham.
He'd have to change our squad to play his sort of football and if we get stuck with him playing that type of nonsense next season- give me a break.

 

[ovalcam]

Alladyce also had good people around him at Bolton in Phil Brown and Sammy Lee. His spell at Newcastle without them was inconclusive in my opinion, certainly didn't improve them any.

One manager who never gets mentioned, but I think has done a great job in the premiership with limited budget teams is Steve Bruce. When I hear Bruce on TV he always speaks honestly and openly in interview and reminds me of a certain dutch manager.

 

[DC_Boy]

The thing with Jenas is he'll run, maybe beat a man, and then lose it and we're back to square one again.

He's meant to be our leader but lacks that impact - both in terms of driving the team on and also his footballing game.

Not saying it's his fault that he's in that position but that is the case. And as it is, he needs to stand up and be counted. He's not doing his job properly. Creating a chance for Bent as his only good moment of the game? That's incredulous. He makes a few tackles here and there, but only noted about two interceptions today.

He covers ground but doesn't do much with the ball and his shooting and set-piece delivery is woeful. Late on he waved Modric away from free kick, and then promptly sent the free kick wayward.

With Modric, yes he did get knocked off the ball but he showed some nice skill and wasn't afraid to have a go, and was very close right near the end with his hassling. Modric has only played a handful of games in the Prem and looks like he's still getting used to ithe Englih game.

Jenas is used to the game, he knows what to expect and as captain of a team like Spurs, he needs to demonstrate his ability.

And at the moment he is demonstrating his ability is way below-par.

well he has demostrated more than modric or any other mid this season - (with the possible exception of lennon) so if he's below par what are they?