Match Threads West Ham Vs Spurs

[cwy21]

It's going to be great when the second version of the super League comes out and Newcastle takes our place.

 

[Cochise]

I think it's a sign of how far we've regressed that if we're being honest, we'd pick half their players or more in a combined lineup. Soucek and Rice were great at protecting their backline although tbh I don't think Skipp and Hojbjerg did badly. I thought Romero and Dier both had strong games, especially the former of the two who just looks another level.

Neither team really looked like they had brilliant attacking plans, it's just we made some braindead mistakes to gift them possession when we were on the transition. That and we had 0 urgency with the ball. Our plan seemed to be to have Son move infield and one of Reggie or N'Dombele to get it on the wing and drive at their right back. That or just stand up a cross into a crowded penalty area.

Again, it will all go back to Nuno. We all know his deficiencies and I'll head over to the appropriate thread shortly, but I don't think it's unfair to say that we should be seeing better than this. There has been an improvement in moving the ball through the first phase of play, but when the end is just standing the ball up into the penalty area it's not a very good plan.

 

[The Opinionated Lurker]

Nuno Out. Won a few quid betting against the club today so silver linings I guess

 

[easley91]

Nothing to get behind is there. The players we’ve signed the last few years bar mabye Romero are average, the manager is shocking, the football is tedious, if Kane and son aren’t on it we lack any threat whatsoever barring Ndombeles great game 1 in 10.

We needed a manager who could get us playing a specific tactical system which would get the most from the players a la Ten Haag Etc.

Fucking boring shambles. Anytime we play any half decent team we look clueless

I think on a positive note from today, we look better defensively. I'll probably be in the minority for that. Romero handled Antonio quite well for the most part and SHOULD have been the one marking him for the corner.

 

[alexis]

Gutting to be at a place where I could happily see 9 of this starting eleven sold and I wouldn’t miss them. I feel utterly disconnected from the team these days against the sheer love and passion and pride of the Jol era, the Redknapp era, the Poch era… right now I feel like I’m just treading water waiting for the inevitable 90s style mediocrity and a season of looking to see if we might just finish above the halfway from once…

9 seriously

 

[spids]

Also, if you are bringing all 11 players back to defend corners, put players on the post. You can still mark 1-1 for all their players in the box and have a man on each post. A defender on the near post prevents their goal.

 

[Jules77]

This is a classic SC post - "Manager should be sacked" AND "Players aren't good enough!"


So, is this down to Nuno? Or the players? What should Nuno have done differently here? The players who started gave us our best chance at scoring - why make changes, just for the sake of making changes?

The reality is West Ham have a good squad, they played at home, and eked out a 1-0 victory. Shit happens.

Totally agree.. Heaven forbid the other team can have a say in the game and not make is play optimally..

Really not sure what Nuno should have done differently given the squad he has?

EDIT: Nuno shouldn’t have had Kane marking Antonio on that corner… if that was in anyway his instruction.

 

[Albertbarich]

Not sure PEH is bringing much to the team anymore.

A clench of the fist here and a misplaced pass there says you're wrong.

Stefano fruend would be proud

 

[philll]

Another thing - I've never seen so many gestures among team mates, telling each other where they should be or where they were expected to be to receive a pass.

 

[SargeantMeatCurtains]

At the start of the season - the complaint was we were too negative, and sat too deep, conceding possession. Today, we spent most of the time in West Ham's end. We did not concede possession, we simply could not penetrate their defense. But, it was not because Nuno set up wrong - West Ham stayed organized, and the attacking players could not break it down.

It wasn't a tactical error that conceded the goal.

We didn’t have a single effort on goal in the second half. We are far too negative.

 

[Whitey]

Mason was useless. Get him and you get Winks. If Nuno goes we need someone with fresh ideas. Not much out there to be honest.

And at this point would rather have Winks in the side instead of Kane. Agree with fresh ideas, but never going to attract/secure that kind of manager with the farcical way we appointed Nuno....

 

[fletch82]

That was pathetic no urgency from beginning to end
Harry dialing it in again
Reggie in full hari karri mode

Half the team playing walking football the other half looking like they needed a bell in the ball to find it.
Truly dreadful from us today and I'm utterly unimpressed with our manager wtf is he telling these guys in training.
Makes a mockery of throwing away the midweek game ?

 

[cider spurs]

Dunno what another of you chaps are expecting. This lacklustre, shit brand of football has gone on for quite a while now.

The static, chuckle brothers (to me, to you) crap, masked by the odd good display to keep the hope at the forefront of our expectations.

I'll make no apologies, I didn't expect us to win today.

I'll leave the apologies dressed up in excuses to the players and Nuno. I'm past expecting anything, and in all honesty, giving a flying fuck.

I wouldn't suggest we were abysmal, but feck me, can we not at least show a bit of urgency when going a goal down in a London derby.

Yet again, game fizzles out with us showing nothing more than a whimper.

Oh well. Oh dear.

 

[Jimmypearce7]

Nuno Out. Won a few quid betting against the club today so silver linings I guess

Great support! Being a supporter of a club means wanting them to win, even when they are struggling and you feel disillusioned.

 

[Waiwonder]

Good first half. Second have was drab. Then again moyes teams love to park the bus and counter and we should have tried to stretch them with more wing play rather than constantly trying to play through a congested middle of park.

Our final pass was lacking today. Could have easily got 3 goals if the balls across the 6 yard box were better.

Losing 1-0 away to a set piece goal isn't be all end all. The defending by kane was horrific though.

 

[rossdapep]

Annoying. Tight match settled by a set piece goal. Thought we were the better team throughout but West Ham were well organised.

I agree with that. Don't think Nuno did much wrong until about 60th minute where they started to get back into it and he was too passive.

Changes should have been done earlier as it may have altered their approach. Thought the game was going to fizzle out into a draw.

I do think he'll be here until at least Xmas. It depends on how he does until then.

If we are there or thereabouts he'll stay until the end of the season so we can change coach then.

If we are floundering FP and DL will have a big decision to make and whether the club go get someone obtainable that fits our mould or if they continue with him until the end of the season, knowing our prime targets aren't available until then, and just hope we don't get sucked into anything disatastrous

 

[easley91]

Every single time we had the ball in West Ham’s half, we looked lost. It’s quite clear that Nuno has coached our defence and holding midfielders but the likes of Kane, Son and Ndombele are improvising every time we have an attack. There’s no clear plan whatsoever and that falls on Nuno’s head.

I remember a narrative where Mourinho was coaching the creativity out of our forward players and now you say they're being allowed to be creative and because they're not creative enough that's on Nuno? I'm sorry but those three should be good enough to improvise without a coach's help.

 

[PCozzie]

Sigh. We really were pretty decent first half as far as away matches against good, in-form teams go. The keeper had to make saves and we had some other good positions. We dominated possession (for what that's worth). Even first 20 of the second half had we got a couple of those square balls right Son or Kane would have had tap-ins.

But it was all so inevitable. 10 minutes of WH upping the tempo and we couldn't handle it. I bet we were all thinking it. Here it comes.....

I'm probably more inclined to give a manager more time to bed in than many on here, but I'm just not seeing it. I can't see what is different to Mourinho. We play slow, plodding, predictable football. If Kane and Son are not on fire then we've almost no other way of scoring.

I wouldn't mind betting the same team starts against United, because we can't play the single pivot. That means both PEH and Skipp have to play. That means Ndombele makes up the 3. Kane has to start because he wont play Son up top. That means Son plays LWF. Moura will play RWF because Stevie can't play there, and he doesn't trust Gil from the start. The full backs pick themselves because the alternative is Doc (injured) and Davies. What a position to get ourselves in.

 

[Nick]

Gil aside, our bench is shite.

I believe Lo Celso was way more suited to the deep role Moura was playing to today

 

[whitechina]

Mason was useless. Get him and you get Winks. If Nuno goes we need someone with fresh ideas. Not much out there to be honest.

Me Me Me
I'll have a go!
Lots of different ideas (most of 'em seem to be dropping the players we have and starting the U23 squad)