What our opponents' fans are saying about us 17/18

[spursfan77]

Don't forget this was the game last year where Rachel Riley and her little crew of Sky pricks admitted they were jumping around the studio celebrating when West Ham scored, despite none of them being West Ham supporters.

Right, because West Ham are such a lovely club, and everyone wants those nice guys at Chelsea to win the league at a canter, yeah? It was literally offensive to me when she admitted that and came out with the "legends" line.

The media should be praying on their knees for Spurs to be successful and win stuff given we're the only team competing at the top who actually don't pay obscene amounts of transfer fees or wages, who aren't owned by foreign criminals, who bring through young English players and actually give them a chance, who conduct ourselves with respect and maturity, and who play some of the best football in the country. They should be all over praising us as the absolute example for English clubs to follow.

And yet we're mocked, ridiculed, Sky spend every minute trying to sell our players, and everyone in the media seems to want us to lose every week. It's pure jealously because we've done things the right way that no other club has achieved and we're right on the verge of becoming something really special. It scares people and these people are also morons.

Honestly, football sucks and can literally go fuck itself. I was done with listening to any of them a long time ago.

And they slag us off for not paying our players too much like all the other top clubs when instead they should be moaning about them paying players too much rather than ours not enough.

What's worse is that it brain washes other fans into thinking the same way. Football should be doing its best to decrease wages and transfer fees yet they want it the other way round. It's baffling.

 

[Danners9]

And they slag us off for not paying our players too much like all the other top clubs when instead they should be moaning about them paying players too much rather than ours not enough.

What's worse is that it brain washes other fans into thinking the same way. Football should be doing its best to decrease wages and transfer fees yet they want it the other way round. It's baffling.

Agreed. And the same point on wages applies to transfer fees. Remember when everyone was going crazy about Chinese transfer fees? The rest of Europe looks at the Premier League in the same way. But Sky lap it up. Large fees are exciting, you see.. and spending loads of money - on anyone, regardless of their actual value - is a good thing.

Phil Neville, who is intent on proving himself to be stupid at the moment, was going on about Everton having the best transfer window (halfway through the transfer window) yet their most influential player so far has been Niasse, who was an outcast up until the 2nd half of Saturday's game!! Not any of their signings.

 

[Jimmypearce7]

Agreed. And the same point on wages applies to transfer fees. Remember when everyone was going crazy about Chinese transfer fees? The rest of Europe looks at the Premier League in the same way. But Sky lap it up. Large fees are exciting, you see.. and spending loads of money - on anyone, regardless of their actual value - is a good thing.

Phil Neville, who is intent on proving himself to be stupid at the moment, was going on about Everton having the best transfer window (halfway through the transfer window) yet their most influential player so far has been Niasse, who was an outcast up until the 2nd half of Saturday's game!! Not any of their signings.

Phil Neville looks like he might be the thickest pundit ever, despite the intense competition.

 

[NinjaTuna]

Martin Tyler annoys me with his obvious biased nature towards westham and negativity towards Spurs in these matches. It come to my attention all those years ago in our excellent 4-3 win at Upton Park when Staltieri got the winner. Every goal Spurs scored were met with very subdued commentary but when westham scored, he was screaming with excitement. The Staltieri winner got a " oooooooo noooooooo" out of his then commentating partner Andy Gray ( I believe it was ) ... it just so biased towards westham and even Saturdays game was the same: Westhams 2nd goal by that lanky streak of piss Kayote was almost as if they equalised he was that excited for them.

Yeah, i always felt Andy Gray was massively anti-Spurs

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

Phil Neville looks like he might be the thickest pundit ever, despite the intense competition.

Good call

 

[Marty]

Phil Neville looks like he might be the thickest pundit ever, despite the intense competition.

It's like he goes out of his way to show that there's no area in life where Gary doesn't piss all over him.

 

[Led's Zeppelin]

There is also a bit of history about it. It mostly comes from Chelsea's side. Even today we are there biggest rivals (only for a brief time in the 90s/00s when we couldn't beat them were Arsenal taken up as their biggest rivals). I think the rivalry has increased on our side as Chelsea became a better team. I mean there have never been any real animosity for ex-tottenham players moving Chelsea, Graham Roberts, Glenn Hoddle, Micky Hazard and Danny Blanchflower (as manager). I don't think it was ever seen as anything remotely close to a betrayal, and I'm sure neither Blanchflower or Hoddle for a single moment thought hmm... what would spurs fans think about this.

Originally Chelsea had bit of a thing against us because we always took there best players, such as Bobby Smith, Jimmy Greaves (well via milan), Terry Venables. Then came the 1967 cup final, the first ever final played between two London clubs, a game we won with both Venables and Greaves two ex-Chelsea players. The final is generally considered to be when the rivalry properly took hold.

In 1975 the rival took on a greater significance as we relegated them 2-0 with both teams scrapping for survival we stayed up with a single point. Ultimately, Chelsea have for a long time never liked us that much, and when Poyet moved to Tottenham it was treated like a Judas moment. A lot of this stems from the fact for most of our clubs histories we have been much more successful than Chelsea. Before Chelsea's success the late nineties there most successful periods were in the 60s (and 1 year in the 50s) it just so happened that we were better than them in both those periods and outperformed them decade by decade.

Before the 90s Chelsea were behind us, and I guess a lot of hate came from us being a successful London club who were not so far ahead of them that they couldn't keep with us but enough ahead of them for them to aspire to throw us down a peg or two. I dunno.

Agree with all of that.

There was also a lot of very overt anti-semitism in the rivalry in the second half of the '60s that intensified the bitterness between the clubs. I was a kid then but I clearly remember a lot of fighting between them and us, school v school and gang v gang that went across age ranges up to blokes in their mid-30s probably, in all sorts of odd parts of London and there was always a "kill the yids" battlecry long before we called ourselves Yids.

That was in the days when a popular weapon of choice among school kids was a steel comb with a few teeth removed and the end part sharpened to a razor-point. Skinhead chic ( not the parody that followed in the 70scand 80s) attracted a lot of kids into tribes that centred around the two clubs in a way that hadn't happened before.

It could have developed between any two clubs but Tottenham & Chelsea were certainly the two glamour clubs of London back then, them with Osgood, Cooke and a few others, us with a whole array of brilliance from Jennings all the way through the team to Greaves. That 67 final was both a public culmination of brewing hostility and for many a private marker for the future which, at the time, made Arsenal and West Ham seem relatively irrelevant outside of matchdays.

 

[yido_number1]

I'm rarely that vociferous about Spurs, and don't believe the common paranoia that says we're singled out particularly in comparison to other clubs, but the general lack of respect in football from the professional media is infuriating, and realistically we should be one of the last clubs to be criticised, mocked or portrayed in a bad light.

When you have the skyapp on your phone and every spurs update is "Harry should be paid more" and "Dele needs to play better if he is going to move to Madrid" it's quite clear sky have one agenda regards to us.

 

[Klinsmannesque]

And they slag us off for not paying our players too much like all the other top clubs when instead they should be moaning about them paying players too much rather than ours not enough.

What's worse is that it brain washes other fans into thinking the same way. Football should be doing its best to decrease wages and transfer fees yet they want it the other way round. It's baffling.

You'd think Sky would want that narrative. They hype up spending, but the knock on effect is in 3 years they have to pay a shitload more in tv rights as a consequence.

 

[Disconosebleed]

When you have the skyapp on your phone and every spurs update is "Harry should be paid more" and "Dele needs to play better if he is going to move to Madrid" it's quite clear sky have one agenda regards to us.

Kane's arguably the best striker in the league earning half, or possibly less, of what players of a similar standard are earning. Dele Alli is potentially (in theory) one of the best players in the world. These are obvious points that are obviously going to be made, it doesn't require an agenda to make those points worth mentioning in the media.

Have a look in the transfer forum and you'll find about 500,000 players we were linked to during the summer, most of whom play for smaller clubs...is that evidence of a pro-Spurs agenda in the media? No, it's just the way the media works, they pass on/make up stories because that's their job.

 

[CornerPinDreamer]

Kane's arguably the best striker in the league earning half, or possibly less, of what players of a similar standard are earning. Dele Alli is potentially (in theory) one of the best players in the world. These are obvious points that are obviously going to be made, it doesn't require an agenda to make those points worth mentioning in the media.

Have a look in the transfer forum and you'll find about 500,000 players we were linked to during the summer, most of whom play for smaller clubs...is that evidence of a pro-Spurs agenda in the media? No, it's just the way the media works, they pass on/make up stories because that's their job.

what sort of beer goggles are you wearing?

 

[yido_number1]

Kane's arguably the best striker in the league earning half, or possibly less, of what players of a similar standard are earning. Dele Alli is potentially (in theory) one of the best players in the world. These are obvious points that are obviously going to be made, it doesn't require an agenda to make those points worth mentioning in the media.

Have a look in the transfer forum and you'll find about 500,000 players we were linked to during the summer, most of whom play for smaller clubs...is that evidence of a pro-Spurs agenda in the media? No, it's just the way the media works, they pass on/make up stories because that's their job.

In the direct aftermath of our game all they can discuss is Kane being paid more and Dele moving on? We're not in the transfer window now, how about we start reporting on games or even critique the performance of a player or two instead of hawking their agenda to see everyone that plays for our club... The other article I saw was about there being a top three now and not a top 6 any more ....

 

[Disconosebleed]

what sort of beer goggles are you wearing?

Haha yeah fair point - I meant to say that this was the general perception of him, clearly he is nowhere near that based on this season's performances.

In the direct aftermath of our game all they can discuss is Kane being paid more and Dele moving on? We're not in the transfer window now, how about we start reporting on games or even critique the performance of a player or two instead of hawking their agenda to see everyone that plays for our club... The other article I saw was about there being a top three now and not a top 6 any more ....

I'm not denying that the media talk an awful load of bollocks most of the time, because hyperbole and fiction are generally more interesting than reality. I'm just saying that there is no anti-Spurs agenda. If Sky did have an agenda, which I don't think they do, it certainly wouldn't be against us.

 

[mickdale]

When you have the skyapp on your phone and every spurs update is "Harry should be paid more" and "Dele needs to play better if he is going to move to Madrid" it's quite clear sky have one agenda regards to us.

Then why would you have the sky app?

 

[yido_number1]

Then why would you have the sky app?

For goals highlights and what I would hope would be interesting coverage on our news...

 

[shelfmonkey]

Martin Tyler annoys me with his obvious biased nature towards westham and negativity towards Spurs in these matches. It come to my attention all those years ago in our excellent 4-3 win at Upton Park when Staltieri got the winner. Every goal Spurs scored were met with very subdued commentary but when westham scored, he was screaming with excitement. The Staltieri winner got a " oooooooo noooooooo" out of his then commentating partner Andy Gray ( I believe it was ) ... it just so biased towards westham and even Saturdays game was the same: Westhams 2nd goal by that lanky streak of piss Kayote was almost as if they equalised he was that excited for them.

The trouble is, the media like to stereotype clubs to fit their narrative, we're 'the underachieving legends with fickle fans' Man Ure are the God like PL club, West Ham are the plucky little east end battlers and so on, we are sticking a massive fuck off pin into their stereotype balloon and they don't like it!!!

COYS

 

[BehindEnemyLines]

They're only underpaid in the context of the Premier league (and oil clubs). Compared to the relative normality outside of that bubble of obscene wealth they're about the right level for their age and ability (imo ).

 

[guiltyparty]

Same as my old man. Lived in brentwood though (my nan and grandad from wapping and Stepney) and used to go and see West Ham sometimes.

Bethnal Green is Lillywhite

It is indeed. I used to live in Bethnal Green, up the Salmon & Ball

 

[npearl4spurs]

For goals highlights and what I would hope would be interesting coverage on our news...

There are much, much better places to get highlights and Spurs coverage, mate.

 

[riggi]

It is indeed. I used to live in Bethnal Green, up the Salmon & Ball

I imagine a fair amount of arsenal aswell?