What Our Opponents' Fans Are Saying About Us 23/24

[tototoner]

Probably be Spurs' fault somehow.

I think Milan seen it coming, hence why he was sold

 

[Sp3akerboxxx]

They've lost once in five games

My bad, meant to say they have one win at home this season.

They've drawn with us, bournemouth and palace at home. Lost to Everton and Arsenal (cup), and beaten ten man Burnley (who are shite with 11).

Brentford are not the same beast at home as they have been in previous seasons.

 

[npearl4spurs]

Probably be Spurs' fault somehow.

Makes sense now. He bet on us to lose

 

[Nayim60yards]

Arsemania

• So we drew to these guys, did we?
• Yes we did and my god it was an embarrassing result against a ****e small side. We also drew with Fulham, which wasn't great either.

Badum tish! That's three draws for Arsenal this season and all of them in London derbies. Last season they won all three of those games. However, while they have dropped six points in those games they won two games they lost against last season in Everton and City. They are up and down and basically have no right to be shouting about who they should and should not beat.

 

[Shepspurs]

All these supporters saying we have had an easy run have no proof.

I have therefore looked at each of our opponents league position before the start of the season.

Here's the results.

Arsenal - top
Bournemouth - 3rd
Brentford - 4th
Burnley - 6th
Fulham - 10th
Liverpool - 11th
Luton - 12th
Man Utd - 14th
Sheff Utd - 17th

None of them were in the relegation zone.

 

[npearl4spurs]

Also, traditionally it's harder to play promoted teams in Aug/Sep, when the sun's shining, the players and fans have belief they can survive, as opposed to Dec/Jan when the players are depressed, the realisation has set in that they are gonna struggle for the next win, and their squad is knackered.

Does the evidence back that up? Genuinely curious as to what promoted sides PPG are in Aug/Sep as opposed to Dec/Jan

Not sure, but the grind of the PL season defo wears the smaller teams down.

I have the exact same feeling.

Meeting the promoted teams in the first 5 fixtures, especially away from home is much much harder than when you reach late autumn and their early tenacity and optimism has faded.

I dunno man, having teams facing relegation in April/May, when they're fighting for their lives (and pay cuts) is by far hardest.

Yeah, maybe although sometimes the rut's so bad by then they can't get out. Depends on new manager bounces and other factors too.

I only had the time and effort to look at the last three seasons and I looked at Aug-Oct and Dec-Feb for a better sample size and "season of the year/season" so to speak Fall vs. Winter. Two weird years with COVID and the WC too for balance:

20-21 (COVID) First 10 matches stretch to end of November because the league didn't start until Sept
Fulham Aug-Oct 0.7 PPG from 10 matches Dec-Feb 1 PPG from 16 matches (relegated)
West Brom Aug-Oct 0.6 PPG from 10 matches Dec-Feb 0.69 PPG from 16 matches (relegated)
Leeds Aug-Oct 1.5 PPG from 10 matches Dec-Feb 1.31 PPG from 16 matches
Total: Aug-Oct 0.93 PPG from 30 matches Dec-Feb 1 PPG from 48 matches

21-22
Norwich Aug-Oct 0.2 PPG from 10 matches Dec-Feb 0.58 PPG from 12 matches (relegated)
Watford Aug-Oct 1 PPG from 10 matches Dec-Feb 0.46 PPG from 13 matches (relegated)
Brentford Aug-Oct 1.2 PPG from 10 matches Dec-Feb 0.57 PPG from 14 matches
Total: Aug-Oct 0.8 PPG from 30 matches Dec-Feb 0.54 PPG from 39 matches

22-23 (WC in Nov and Dec)
Fulham Aug-Oct 1.46 PPG from 13 matches Dec-Feb 2 PPG from 10 matches
B'mouth Aug-Oct 1 PPG from 13 matches Dec-Feb 0.56 PPG from 9 matches
Forest Aug-Oct 0.69 PPG from 13 matches Dec-Feb 1.3 PPG from 9 matches
Total: Aug-Oct 1.05 PPG from 39 matches Dec-Feb 1.32 PPG from 28 matches

Grand Total: Aug-Oct 0.94 PPG from 99 matches Dec-Feb 0.92 PPG from 115 matches


Conclusion: Not really much of a difference. Even if they are relegated, 3/4 teams picked up more PPG in Dec-Feb than Aug-Oct. If they're a shit team, then they're a shit team, and maybe it just matters more how good of a team you are when you play them - and just how shit they are. As others said, it could be your timing with a manager in charge or injuries.

I'm guessing this year it doesn't much matter when you play Sheffield United. Jury is out on Luton Town and Burnley who have either shown some pluck or you'd think have some quality (in the players and the manager) to do something on a given day.

 

[Nayim60yards]

Copium and pundits are sheep they copy and repeat everything if it gets engagement for clicks

If you can't beat 'em copium...

 

[Jgplk1]

Arsenal Mania

• I found this quote from Sp**s' best ever manager Bill Nicholson which I quite like...
  "Any player coming to Sp**s, whether he's a big signing or just a ground staff boy, must be dedicated to the game and to the club. He must never be satisfied with his last performance, and he must hate losing."
• If Bill Nicholson ever got reanimated, he'd be a Gooner. Now that I say it out loud, a zombie gooner is both fascinating and horrifying

 

[Jgplk1]

CPFC BBS
There's a poll at the top of the match thread, 79% think Palace will lose, 16% draw, 5% Palace win.

• Ange's style of football ( persistent attack, continual off ball movement, creative midfield) vs Roy ball ( sit deep, sit back, wait for the onslaught , no press, wait for lucky break, 1 shot at goal that’s the 1st half yawn)
• The game will start 0-0 and Roy will pick a team that gives us a chance of it ending the same way
• Bet we don't look 2 days fresher
• the best we as the paying fans can hope for is three 0-0 draws at home on the spin. Oh joy of joys
• I can see Spuz wasting a load of chances and us nabbing two
  2 - 1 Palace innit
• Our best bet is for Spurs to do a Spursey. Top of the league, can go 5 points clear...time for them to implode
• Probably the most anticipated loss thus far this season. Combine that with Palace haven't had an unexpected win in ages. Palace 1 Tottenham 0
• Tottenham fans are saying that Selhurst Park under the lights is a tough place to go.
  It is and after the mauling by Newcastle and the bollocking that will have followed, I don't think we'll be turned over.
  I'm hoping for a cheeky 1-0 but a draw wouldn't be a bad result.

 

[Jgplk1]

Forest Forum UK

• Spurs are a very good side. They have made some great signings too.
  I think they are the biggest threat to Man City this season.
• They're playing some great football, brave and adventurous.
• i think it might be the irony, but if Tottenham were to win the league this year (after Kane left) I would find it very amusing.
  Realistically though I think they get a top 4 placing and have a better chance of winning a cup.
• They still lack a bit of depth, and I think that will be telling in the New Year. But Posteoglu has shaped a new mentality for this side in a very short period of time, and all that while losing one of the best two or three strikers in World football (though that may have been a blessing in disguise).
• I’m only watching to see Richarlison cry on the tele
• in terms of the football they are playing, they deserve to be top at the minute. If they can add depth in January & another attacker of the same quality of Maddison/Son who knows what they can achieve.
  Fulham are getting dragged all over the place.
• It's Spurs, they'll finish 4th or sommat & won't win a cup then their entitled fans will get fed up of Postiglue and want a shiny new manager
• Posteoglu "Why are you being such a stupid f***ing moron Richarlison?"
• Spurs have to come to the City Ground a week before Christmas.
  And I'll tell ya. We're still fighting for our turkey. They've still gotta go to Waitrose for their pigs in blankets.
  I'll tell ya. Honestly. I will luvvit if we beat them. Luvvit.
• They're not all they're cracked up to be, they'll fade away & I'll laugh me tits off

 

[animalmom]

I really think the media do us no favors, but we are London club, a rich club, and there are other issues that make the media focus on us - like Levy being in charge.

Spurs fans who think we are winning the league - zero. Comments that Spurs fans think we are winning the league - legion. Why? Because the media goes on about it all the time.

I suppose the reason we are held in contempt by everyone is

1) Every team holds every team in contempt, it just seems like they all hate us more
2) Teams above us don’t want us to be established at the top, teams below us don’t want us to leave their abyss of medocrity.
3) Newcastle, Brighton and Villa dont get the (2) hate yet, so I am not sure why there is (1)

Just theorycrafting. I think it’s odd, but what is indisputable is everyone has an opinion about Spurs. I don’t have much of an opinion about Villa (E.g.(

 

[FITZ]

I really think the media do us no favors, but we are London club, a rich club, and there are other issues that make the media focus on us - like Levy being in charge.

Spurs fans who think we are winning the league - zero. Comments that Spurs fans think we are winning the league - legion. Why? Because the media goes on about it all the time.

I suppose the reason we are held in contempt by everyone is

1) Every team holds every team in contempt, it just seems like they all hate us more
2) Teams above us don’t want us to be established at the top, teams below us don’t want us to leave their abyss of medocrity.
3) Newcastle, Brighton and Villa dont get the (2) hate yet, so I am not sure why there is (1)

Just theorycrafting. I think it’s odd, but what is indisputable is everyone has an opinion about Spurs. I don’t have much of an opinion about Villa (E.g.(

Just embrace it - It’s because we are box-office.

The song doesn’t lie. “There’s gonna be a show”

 

[Bobbins]

Pure COYS Joy!

Honestly why all the irritating sound effects?

 

[Col_M]

Honestly why all the irritating sound effects?

I think the vid is aimed at teen boys.

 

[Jim De hat]

From the Everton posts: "Hopefully above RS anyway". What is RS? is that Arsenal ?

Red Shite

 

[DangerMouse]

Most Liverpool fans are tourists from obscure back waters across the globe, such as Merthyr Tydfil and Cork, where the gene pool is notoriously shallow..

Ouch! Well, that is oddly specific but I'm from Aberdare and that is a 15 minute drive from Merthyr. In South Wales valley terms, that is a continent. Also, yeah, Merthyr folks are weird and a bit inbred...possibly (nb. No evidence but a thriving banjo band)

 

[Trent Crimm]

CPFC BBS
There's a poll at the top of the match thread, 79% think Palace will lose, 16% draw, 5% Palace win.

• Ange's style of football ( persistent attack, continual off ball movement, creative midfield) vs Roy ball ( sit deep, sit back, wait for the onslaught , no press, wait for lucky break, 1 shot at goal that’s the 1st half yawn)
• The game will start 0-0 and Roy will pick a team that gives us a chance of it ending the same way
• Bet we don't look 2 days fresher
• the best we as the paying fans can hope for is three 0-0 draws at home on the spin. Oh joy of joys
• I can see Spuz wasting a load of chances and us nabbing two
  2 - 1 Palace innit
• Our best bet is for Spurs to do a Spursey. Top of the league, can go 5 points clear...time for them to implode
• Probably the most anticipated loss thus far this season. Combine that with Palace haven't had an unexpected win in ages. Palace 1 Tottenham 0
• Tottenham fans are saying that Selhurst Park under the lights is a tough place to go.
  It is and after the mauling by Newcastle and the bollocking that will have followed, I don't think we'll be turned over.
  I'm hoping for a cheeky 1-0 but a draw wouldn't be a bad result.

dont all games start 0-0 ?

 

[spurs mental]

dont all games start 0-0 ?

The replay against Liverpool will start 1-0 to them.

 

[robbiedee]

Got some snippets from the palace fans... (from holmesdale.net) - everyone (most) predicting an easy Spurs win (see Chris Sutton on BBC and Sky Sports predictions), but my experience of away matches at Palace has always been tight matches. A bonus that 2 of their better players are out for tonights game so should be another 3 points in the bag... don't let us down Spurs!!!

Got to hope that the 80 minutes played by Maddison, Son, Richarlison and the full match for Romero and Kulusevski somehow impacts negatively upon their fitness, preparation time and sharpness for Friday. Realistically it's our only chance, especially if we start with Eduoard and Mateta, because we would need an early goal.

Given the Einstein's definition of madness, neither Lerma or Mateta should start on Friday.

The back 5 pick themselves.

I know its a pipe dream but I'd start with this.

Doucoure/Hughes
Franca
JRS-Eduard-Ayew

We can only dream of a draw in this one.

If there is no Olise or Shlupp, we really have nothing to take the pressure off our backs.

I predict pain.

1-1 Our new guys and the walking wounded no longer wounded I am hoping that we will shock Spuds and we will get the draw we need for our hearts and mentality.

We'll be reliant on Ayew in attack and he will be marked out of the game if they've got any sense. If he's forced outside he has no options as there's not usually anyone in the box, plus he's not a great crosser of the ball anyway.
Our goalscoring problem in a nutshell.

It's gonna be tough

We have no supply to our 'supposed' strikers.

Getting a few crosses over might help but Mateta can't head a ball to save his life.

We can't score so we can't win. Simple.

When Eze and Olise return we should be OK

take your hand off for a point.
Regret it may well be another Newcastle score due to under strength team.

COYP !

I am going for 1-1. Our players will be pumped for a Friday night at Selhurst. Those back in the team shake off the rust of the Newcastle game. Roy and Ray work on tactics. Franca and jes both feeling more involved after their cameos. So long as we do not skip early I think we can cause spurs problems. Injury worries are lessening

Well we've had two days extra rest than Spurs and they also have a few key injury worries. It depends on the team Roy plays.

Ideally I'd like to see Ahamada in for Hughes, Rak Sakyi starting on the right and Ayew on the left. Who knows what Roy will do though.

2-1 to Spurs.

For those predicting a Palace win, exactly who do you think will score, and who will provide the assist?
Until Eze and / or Olise are back we have little to offer.
I hope Roy gives Franca a start - if he runs out of steam he can take him off.
We could do with Schlupp for experience. Im afraid Hughes was seriously wanting last week and he be the same against a very good Spurs team.
I also fear for how Ward and Mitchell will do against their attack.
All in all it looks a little bleak!!

They're still comfortably beating teams that we're struggling to beat. Unfortunately I'm picking a fairly comfortable win for them. They've literally got nothing to worry about on defence, so can focus on their attacking patterns and Son will slaughter us.

Hope I'm wrong, but picking 3-1 Spurs. Reckon we'll nick a goal from a corner or something.

Another vote for 3-1 Spurs here. I can't see us getting anything from this game. On the plus side though, Eze and Olise will be back soon, Franca will enter the fray, so attack wise, things are looking up!

0-3.
We have no creative players available.
Son must think it’s Christmas every time he plays against us.
But wait! What am I saying? 3-0 to Palace just like a couple of seasons ago when they had that Portuguese manager. Ayew will net a hat-trick, as he threatens to every week.

Absolutely nothing creative going forward on the ball and 2 strikers who can't even be bothered off the ball, I honestly think Tottenham could rest a player, play with 10 men and still beat us comfortably.

Can't see them not scoring but I've got the feeling we'll sneak a 1-1. (Fingers well and truly crossed!)

I hope we at least try and play some football. After a decade up here my tolerance for watching other sides control the game at Selhurst while we sit back and wait for them to pick holes in us is drained. We should be a proud club that doesn't let these sides just make themselves comfortable on our pitch

Anyway, 2-0 Spurs...

Played crap last game and a 3-0 defeat is the rational expectation...unless you're Palace: 2-1 win to the Eagles.

Alas Roy's previous history in games against Spurs and the like has us meekly defending, waiting for them to take the game to us, hoping for some miserly scraps that may or may not fall our way. Roy doesn't change, it's what he does. I saw the highlights of their game against Fulham, they press and get the ball forward sharpish, not to dissimilar to Newcastle. Our full backs will have a torrid time of it again I suspect.

 

[SlotBadger]

Just gonna pitch a tent in this thread for the next 24 hours…

“Lucky ****s”