What our opponents' fans are saying

[Insomnia]

They are having a good season & them & their fans will be well up for this. We will need to be at our best, they are unbeaten in 14 home games & I think we are in 14 away games so somethings got to give. Should be a cracking game/ atmosphere. The knuckle draggers banging on about violence & firms etc...have no place in football for me. I dreamt we went down to 10 men last night but the player sent off was ginger?? & then it turned into me getting a nosh off of this fit bird from work. Not sure what that means but thought I'd share, it's not given me any inspiration for my football bet tonight.

 

[oskathegobshite]

Ginger Pele sex dream? We've all been there

 

[jacko73]

Down to 10, with a happy ending then.

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

Have you heard the story about a Sunderland fan, West Bromwich Fan, a Newcastle fan, and a West Ham fan walking into a bar?
The three football fans knew about both cured and roast ham, but had never heard about west ham. They were curious to know what it was like to support a type of ham rather than a sports team.



I'm here all week ...
Sadly.

 

[WalkerboyUK]

They are having a good season & them & their fans will be well up for this. We will need to be at our best, they are unbeaten in 14 home games & I think we are in 14 away games so somethings got to give. Should be a cracking game/ atmosphere. The knuckle draggers banging on about violence & firms etc...have no place in football for me. I dreamt we went down to 10 men last night but the player sent off was ginger?? & then it turned into me getting a nosh off of this fit bird from work. Not sure what that means but thought I'd share, it's not given me any inspiration for my football bet tonight.

They haven't lost at home since August, we haven't lost away since opening day of season.

 

[rebrab]

Have you heard the story about a Sunderland fan, West Bromwich Fan, a Newcastle fan, and a West Ham fan walking into a bar?
The three football fans knew about both cured and roast ham, but had never heard about west ham. They were curious to know what it was like to support a type of ham rather than a sports team.



I'm here all week ...
Sadly.

 

[mark87]

Have you heard the story about a Sunderland fan, West Bromwich Fan, a Newcastle fan, and a West Ham fan walking into a bar?
The three football fans knew about both cured and roast ham, but had never heard about west ham. They were curious to know what it was like to support a type of ham rather than a sports team.



I'm here all week ...
Sadly.

 

[Sir Henry]

Reading the last few pages is why lester shouldn't win the league, their fans don't deserve it, half of them have been fucking dropped on their heads at birth and have never recovered. The spammers are insignificant, and pretty much most of them froth at the mouth, probably due to some inbreeding going on and I actually feel sorry for villa, it should pass quickly though.

 

[lillywhites61]

I fucking hate West Ham. You'll find a lot of Spurs fans who grew up in Essex that will hate West Ham, especially those that are about 30. I say that because a load of West Ham supporting mates gave it the biggun' when they finished above us under Redknapp when we were generally shit in the late 90s and any "banter" received as a teenager usually shapes which clubs you dislike the most.

I fucking hate them. This game is SO massive for me tonight. Almost as big as Saturday.

Majority of my family support those lot, they tried to brainwash me as a kid, taking me to games standing on the chicken run. Even got a photo of me with the cup and Trevor Brooking!! So glad i saw the light though, i took dogs abuse from the age of about 6 upwoulds for supporting spurs, from family and friends but wouldnt change it for the world!! West Ham are generally Essex fuckwits who dont have a brain cell between the lot of them. I hope we smash the shit out of the tonight and leave the ground top of the pile and we nake sure they know about it as well!

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Regarding the crossing he also insinuates that more crosses dont translate into more goals and actually our choice to create more through the center is why we have so many chances and why we have so many goals. This is why he highlighted the 16th in terms of crosses stat.

The choice to play which fullback runs far deeper than "who is the better crosser" i feel.

One thing that many football coaches forget is that the goal is in the centre of the pitch. Therefore the best way to attack is centrally. The reason why many teams leave space on the flanks when defending is that the ball is harmless when it is in that area. Crossing into static players in the penalty area is also likely to prove ineffective as it will be too easy for a competent centre-back pairing to deal with. Spurs try to open up space in the centre of the pitch and attack with a combination of low vertical passes and short combinations to try to penetrate the oppositions defence. Despite having high possession statistics, Tottenham are 16th for crosses per game in the Premier League this season, a stat which shows their central orientation in the final third. Also, they have the highest percentage of shots from outside the penalty area of any team and take the most per game with 7.8. This shows that they are effective at opening up so-called ‘Zone 14’ space and moving the ball into space in this area of the field. The fact they have scored the second most goals from outside the penalty area of any team (9) shows that they are creating good chances in this area, not just taking speculative efforts.

I'm not sure I buy that completely, are you ?

Earlier in the piece he says things like:

It allows the attack-orientated Walker to play higher up the field and stretch the opposition both horizontally and vertically

Walker adopts a normal right-back position in the defensive phase however moves almost onto the last line of attack when Spurs have the ball,

Just from what we all know and observe, Pochettino encourages both his full backs to get into wide areas and try to create from those areas. Our two best chances were created by Rose on Sunday crossing/passing from the left for Lamela and Dier for example.

Crosses don't have to aimless high hit and hopes (OK with Walker and Rose they often are) they can be passes, and cut backs that directly pick out team mates - such as Rose's on Sunday.

 

[dagraham]

I'm not sure I buy that completely, are you ?

Earlier in the piece he says things like:

It allows the attack-orientated Walker to play higher up the field and stretch the opposition both horizontally and vertically

Walker adopts a normal right-back position in the defensive phase however moves almost onto the last line of attack when Spurs have the ball,

Just from what we all know and observe, Pochettino encourages both his full backs to get into wide areas and try to create from those areas. Our two best chances were created by Rose on Sunday crossing/passing from the left for Lamela and Dier for example.

Crosses don't have to aimless high hit and hopes (OK with Walker and Rose they often are) they can be passes, and cut backs that directly pick out team mates - such as Rose's on Sunday.

Agree. Also, wide play is essential in getting in behind a teams defence and forcing them to turn back and face their own goal for a change. Particularly important against teams who just set up with two banks of four, and helps utilise players such as Alli and Mason who make runs beyond the ball.

 

[TottenhamLegend]

West Ham fans on KUMB are creaming themselves over the "statistic" that we haven't been top of the league in 50 years.

Can someone sign up and just post this link:http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/8210561.stm

Amongst multiple other occasions, we actually went top of the league after beating West Ham on their own patch in 2009, so that supposed statistic can be put to bed. I just don't want to be that guy who signs up to tell them.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Agree. Also, wide play is essential in getting in behind a teams defence and forcing them to turn back and face their own goal for a change. Particularly important against teams who just set up with two banks of four, and helps utilise players such as Alli and Mason who make runs beyond the ball.

Precisely, so many times we see teams come to WHL and listen to their managers talk about keeping things tight, stopping us playing through them and forcing us into wide areas. And par of the tactic of inverted forwards is to open space for attacking FB's.

 

[DiscoD1882]

Ten years ago maybe. At this point I imagine the back doors are like those saloon doors you see in old Westerns.

and theres a man playing an old piano in there?

 

[spids]

I wrote this in 2008, most of it still applicable today ...

Here are some facts about two unnamed clubs. Club A and Club B :-

Top 4 finishes:

Club A - 29
Club B - 1

Top 3 Finishes:

Club A - 14
Club B - 1

Top 2 Finishes:

Club A - 9
Club B - 0

Title wins:

Club A - 2
Club B - 0

FA Cup wins:

Club A - 8
Club B - 3

League Cup wins:

Club A - 4
Club B - 0

European Cup best finish:

Club A - lost semi final on away goals
Club B - Nowhere near it

UEFA cup:

Club A - 2 wins, 1 runner up,
Club B - 0

Cup Winners Cup:

Club A - 1 win, 2 semis
Club B - 1 win

Record Attendance:

Club A - 75,038 against Sunderland
Club B - 42,322 against Club A

Which would you say is the bigger club?

Then guess the names of the teams...

 

[dudu]

I'm not sure I buy that completely, are you ?

Earlier in the piece he says things like:

It allows the attack-orientated Walker to play higher up the field and stretch the opposition both horizontally and vertically

Walker adopts a normal right-back position in the defensive phase however moves almost onto the last line of attack when Spurs have the ball,

Just from what we all know and observe, Pochettino encourages both his full backs to get into wide areas and try to create from those areas. Our two best chances were created by Rose on Sunday crossing/passing from the left for Lamela and Dier for example.

Crosses don't have to aimless high hit and hopes (OK with Walker and Rose they often are) they can be passes, and cut backs that directly pick out team mates - such as Rose's on Sunday.

Sure, I dont disagree. You just talked about what he was highlighting without commenting on why he was highlighting it, which was the opposite to what you were using it to highlight.

I was just clarifying for those who didn't read the whole article.

I dont completely agree with him no. I think we do utise wide players as you have stated but we do not put a huge emphasis on 'crossing' in its literal sense. We come from all angles and dont appear to have just a plan A anymore.

That being said, despite being a great advocate of Trippiers since signing him, I still think the choice of which full back to play is not as simple as who is the better crosser

 

[Hot Spur]

I wrote this in 2008, most of it still applicable today ...

Here are some facts about two unnamed clubs. Club A and Club B :-

Top 4 finishes:

Club A - 29
Club B - 1

Top 3 Finishes:

Club A - 14
Club B - 1

Top 2 Finishes:

Club A - 9
Club B - 0

Title wins:

Club A - 2
Club B - 0

FA Cup wins:

Club A - 8
Club B - 3

League Cup wins:

Club A - 4
Club B - 0

European Cup best finish:

Club A -Lost semi final 4-3 on aggregate
Club B - Nowhere near it

UEFA cup:

Club A - 2 wins, 1 runner up,
Club B - 0

Cup Winners Cup:

Club A - 1 win, 2 semis
Club B - 1 win

Record Attendance:

Club A - 75,038 against Sunderland
Club B - 42,322 against Club A

Which would you say is the bigger club?

Then guess the names of the teams...

Fixed it for you

 

[Lufti]

KUMB:

Looking forward to this game....every year, this is billed as their "Cup Final" as we know that they are so far away from their rivals the Goons, that they have no one else to hate....

For me, the rats from SE16 will always be the team to hate, however, i do understand why in the past few years, the Spuds have become targets.

We have played them more than any other team in the Premier League and with near to 200 games between us, they have only won 9 more games, where against the Goons, they are 23 defeats more and counting, which must really hurt them!

There seems to be more Spuds hiding in our heartlands of Essex, than any other club,

They tried to hijack our move, which was always a pressure move on their own local council to get what they wanted. Their two songs are both nicked, from Southampton and Mill#ank. They think they are a big club, however, are always in the shadows. They always give it, but hide behind others.

They also, for some unknown reason, call us p*****??...again, nicking something from us as we have always called SE16 the p***** since time began!!

For me, it isnt the end of the world if we lose as we have a bigger game in the FA Cup....for them, once again, its their Cup Final today.....



'So far away' from the Goons must in this context mean 3 points above? How do you describe our distance from West Ham then? Light years or..?

 

[Hazardousman]

I wrote this in 2008, most of it still applicable today ...

Here are some facts about two unnamed clubs. Club A and Club B :-

Top 4 finishes:

Club A - 29
Club B - 1

Top 3 Finishes:

Club A - 14
Club B - 1

Top 2 Finishes:

Club A - 9
Club B - 0

Title wins:

Club A - 2
Club B - 0

FA Cup wins:

Club A - 8
Club B - 3

League Cup wins:

Club A - 4
Club B - 0

European Cup best finish:

Club A - lost semi final on away goals
Club B - Nowhere near it

UEFA cup:

Club A - 2 wins, 1 runner up,
Club B - 0

Cup Winners Cup:

Club A - 1 win, 2 semis
Club B - 1 win

Record Attendance:

Club A - 75,038 against Sunderland
Club B - 42,322 against Club A

Which would you say is the bigger club?

Then guess the names of the teams...

Speaks volumes that their record attendance is against us, obsessed with us, it's pathetic.

 

[Lufti]

More KUMB

Hope Noble slept well.. if he plays he's going to be pivotal to us getting something out of this.

I reckon like most Hammers he won't have slept great!

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Great chance for him to outshine Mason, looks like both are set to play.

Really hope he steps up and those around him are buzzing too!



I forgot how wound up they got after Mason got called up for England over Noble. Hope Mason runs rings round him tonight