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Shadydan

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Bitter or correct?? I would say he is correct. Our defending on crosses is very poor. Giroud had three free headers which on another day could have been three goals, also Gibbs goal was a result of poor defending. That aspect of our game has always been poor and needs to be addressed.

I guess you could say on another day we would have cleared the ball lol

But yes legitimate concerns, its definitely our weak spot.
 

Insomnia

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I like that they have become a joke amongst other fans for a few years now.

People like Piers Morgan, that nobber Claude on ArsenalFan TV dressed in all the merch and crying like the world is ending because they drew, the twitter polls they vote en masse and even MOTD Goal of the Season voting, the annual Wenger in/out hokey cokey after a few wobbly results, and the OTT reaction to any signing/non-signing (Benzema, really?!). They have become the epitome of the modern Sky Sports News/Social Media era of fandom that most people hate.

Anyone see that guy in the half-half Sunderland-Arsenal shirt? urghh. Or that gimpy pirate fan they have? or the guys turning up to games in a Cech hat? or the fully grown adult fans in full kit AND a captain's armband? or the ones who leave early in 'protest' then stop on the stairs to take a selfie?

:hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious:
ha ha that's classic gimpy pirate fan
 

Geyzer Soze

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Truth is that right at this moment our own fans are pretty much the most deluded of all. Not as much on here (although a bit!) - but check out some FB groups & Twitter & that


:facepalm:
 

jakuba

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Truth is that right at this moment our own fans are pretty much the most deluded of all. Not as much on here (although a bit!) - but check out some FB groups & Twitter & that


:facepalm:
FB and twitter fans of any club are equally terrible. Wouldn't take them as a measure of any clubs' fans.
 

Riandor

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FB and twitter fans of any club are equally terrible. Wouldn't take them as a measure of any clubs' fans.
Agree, but there is a note of caution.
I have seen enough posts, even on here to show us up as some kind of Liverpool-Manu UTD hybrid, delusional and arrogant. Now I don't like that kind of behaviour even when you're successful, but that's the nature of the beast sometimes, but to be so when all we have won in the last nearly 30 years is a couple of League cups... well.

It was actually refreshing to read some of the West Ham posts that did that corrected the one lonely voice and more power to those who give credit where it is due. Doesn't turn you into a bad fan of your own club to recognise good football and players in other teams, but some act like its treason or blinker themselves into only their club knows the true ways of football.

Frankly, forget hooliganism, that's not even really part of football. This tribal arrogance and abuse levied at other people though, fans, or players, is what often puts me off football.

However, whilst on the debate, out of all my friends or ex-colleagues (when I was still in UK), the only two I could never have a football conversation with were 1 Liverpool fan (well you could as long as you steered clear of Liverpool) and 1 West Ham fan (because he hated Tottenham, so we avoided Football completely). I have had some great debates with Man United fans and even Chelsea & Arsenal fans believe it or not.
 

Hot Spur

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I really don't get all this "hate". I am a FOOTBALL fan, spurs are my favourite team but no club is bigger than football itself. Football clubs are there because of football, not the other way round as a lot of fans seem to think. I regularly watch other teams, including Arsenal, Chelsea, Swansea, Leicester, Bournemouth because they play some good football. When I first started going to live matches at the tender age of 13 (in 1953), there was no crowd segregation, both team's fans all mixed in together. There was banter of course but rarely did it come to anything more than harmless banter. I can imagine now if fans were mixed at a spurs-Arsenal game there would be stabbings and all sorts. It's ridiculous. Back in the day, if spurs were playing away I would go to one of the other London clubs playing at home, it could be Arsenal, Chelsea, Charlton (first division team in those days), Fulham or whoever. I wasn't the only one, thousands of FOOTBALL fans did the same. Most modern fans wouldn't dream of going to another club's ground to watch FOOTBALL. They are not real FOOTBALL fans. I didn't and still don't "hate" any other team although I am pleased if/when we beat them. They are just another football team and beating up, stabbing and even killing another Human being for no better reason than he supports a different football team, I find so appalling and barbaric from a supposedly "civilized" race that it beggars belief.
 

Sir Henry

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I really don't get all this "hate". I am a FOOTBALL fan, spurs are my favourite team but no club is bigger than football itself. Football clubs are there because of football, not the other way round as a lot of fans seem to think. I regularly watch other teams, including Arsenal, Chelsea, Swansea, Leicester, Bournemouth because they play some good football. When I first started going to live matches at the tender age of 13 (in 1953), there was no crowd segregation, both team's fans all mixed in together. There was banter of course but rarely did it come to anything more than harmless banter. I can imagine now if fans were mixed at a spurs-Arsenal game there would be stabbings and all sorts. It's ridiculous. Back in the day, if spurs were playing away I would go to one of the other London clubs playing at home, it could be Arsenal, Chelsea, Charlton (first division team in those days), Fulham or whoever. I wasn't the only one, thousands of FOOTBALL fans did the same. Most modern fans wouldn't dream of going to another club's ground to watch FOOTBALL. They are not real FOOTBALL fans. I didn't and still don't "hate" any other team although I am pleased if/when we beat them. They are just another football team and beating up, stabbing and even killing another Human being for no better reason than he supports a different football team, I find so appalling and barbaric from a supposedly "civilized" race that it beggars belief.

I get all that...... but I do hate a lot of clubs. Liverpool, the red scum, the blue scum. I hate others but not as much, teams like Saints and WHU I couldnt give them my full dose of hatred like the others as they mean very little in the grand scheme of football.

I dont think killing is very nice, but I firmly believe a punch to the face is needed for a few rival fans is it not ? It doesnt have to be followed up with anything, just a quick one to the jaw.
 

ERO

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I'm not a real FOOTBALL fan, and I can rarely even be bothered to watch a different team play a FOOTBALL match on the telly.

I find it to be quite a leap from that to killing other teams' fans though...
 
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eddiev14

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Love this one:

"One of those classic Poch games where Arsenal fans will say its their worst performance of the season, but its because Spurs aren't giving them any time on the ball.

We had loads of those under him."

I also found that comment really interesting because it is exactly where the focus of the media (and Gooners) has been since the weekend, when talking about the game.

It only appears to be the few rare pundits such as Gary Neville who pick up on why that was, and give us the credit instead of making the mistake of focussing on certain Goon players having a bad day (Cazorla was the main target of this).

Anyway, whatever, I prefer it when they aren't talking about us. Less pressure!
 

Riandor

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I also found that comment really interesting because it is exactly where the focus of the media (and Gooners) has been since the weekend, when talking about the game.

It only appears to be the few rare pundits such as Gary Neville who pick up on why that was, and give us the credit instead of making the mistake of focussing on certain Goon players having a bad day (Cazorla was the main target of this).

Anyway, whatever, I prefer it when they aren't talking about us. Less pressure!
When a so called "top team" is so dominated (in large spells), its always down to how poor they were and not about how good the so called "not top team" was. Its how the media operate, can't give too much credit, have to pander to the top 4 or someone gets huffy.

Never know, one day might happen to us...
 

Hot Spur

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I also found that comment really interesting because it is exactly where the focus of the media (and Gooners) has been since the weekend, when talking about the game.

It only appears to be the few rare pundits such as Gary Neville who pick up on why that was, and give us the credit instead of making the mistake of focussing on certain Goon players having a bad day (Cazorla was the main target of this).

Anyway, whatever, I prefer it when they aren't talking about us. Less pressure!
Gary Neville is by far the best pundit in football, he's head and shoulders above the rest. He's always fair, objective and accurate. He sees things that most others don't see. World class.
 

Lighty64

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I really don't get all this "hate". I am a FOOTBALL fan, spurs are my favourite team but no club is bigger than football itself. Football clubs are there because of football, not the other way round as a lot of fans seem to think. I regularly watch other teams, including Arsenal, Chelsea, Swansea, Leicester, Bournemouth because they play some good football. When I first started going to live matches at the tender age of 13 (in 1953), there was no crowd segregation, both team's fans all mixed in together. There was banter of course but rarely did it come to anything more than harmless banter. I can imagine now if fans were mixed at a spurs-Arsenal game there would be stabbings and all sorts. It's ridiculous. Back in the day, if spurs were playing away I would go to one of the other London clubs playing at home, it could be Arsenal, Chelsea, Charlton (first division team in those days), Fulham or whoever. I wasn't the only one, thousands of FOOTBALL fans did the same. Most modern fans wouldn't dream of going to another club's ground to watch FOOTBALL. They are not real FOOTBALL fans. I didn't and still don't "hate" any other team although I am pleased if/when we beat them. They are just another football team and beating up, stabbing and even killing another Human being for no better reason than he supports a different football team, I find so appalling and barbaric from a supposedly "civilized" race that it beggars belief.

The funny thing is, our very 1st ever meeting against Woolwich Scum was abandoned due to a pitch invasion and fighting broke out. Read it in our centenary book.

I only started going in 74 and hooligism was rife. When I started to go to away games in the late 70's I can never remember a match something never happened. When did it start?
 

Hot Spur

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The funny thing is, our very 1st ever meeting against Woolwich Scum was abandoned due to a pitch invasion and fighting broke out. Read it in our centenary book.

I only started going in 74 and hooligism was rife. When I started to go to away games in the late 70's I can never remember a match something never happened. When did it start?
As I remember it actually started in Italy in the late 60's, the Italians had to put tall steel barriers at the front of the stands to keep people from invading pitches, as well as implementing fan segregation. It quickly spread through Europe including England unfortunately.
 

EastLondonYid

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I really don't get all this "hate". I am a FOOTBALL fan, spurs are my favourite team but no club is bigger than football itself. Football clubs are there because of football, not the other way round as a lot of fans seem to think. I regularly watch other teams, including Arsenal, Chelsea, Swansea, Leicester, Bournemouth because they play some good football. When I first started going to live matches at the tender age of 13 (in 1953), there was no crowd segregation, both team's fans all mixed in together. There was banter of course but rarely did it come to anything more than harmless banter. I can imagine now if fans were mixed at a spurs-Arsenal game there would be stabbings and all sorts. It's ridiculous. Back in the day, if spurs were playing away I would go to one of the other London clubs playing at home, it could be Arsenal, Chelsea, Charlton (first division team in those days), Fulham or whoever. I wasn't the only one, thousands of FOOTBALL fans did the same. Most modern fans wouldn't dream of going to another club's ground to watch FOOTBALL. They are not real FOOTBALL fans. I didn't and still don't "hate" any other team although I am pleased if/when we beat them. They are just another football team and beating up, stabbing and even killing another Human being for no better reason than he supports a different football team, I find so appalling and barbaric from a supposedly "civilized" race that it beggars belief.


No one said you have to hit,stab or kill anyone because you hate them,,,,,,,,i hate Arsenal.
 

Hot Spur

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Agree, but i bet he still hates Liverpool ;)
Whether he does or not he doesn't show it, that's what matters. He never shows any bias which is how it should be if a pundit is doing his job properly. Actually it may not be the case that he hates Liverpool, in general there isn't the same "hatred" between the players that there is between fans. Many players from rival teams socialize together and in the old days would be in the pub together after a match.
 
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