What our opponents' fans are saying

[longtimespur]

A Saints fan in my whatsapp group as you can imagine is pretty seething about Koeman going to everton.

"It's worse than pochettino going to Tottenham, he left for a saints style project but with more money, Koeman went for the pay packet"

...I've yet to say anything.

Let him/her fester for awhile before you do

 

[worcestersauce]

A Saints fan in my whatsapp group as you can imagine is pretty seething about Koeman going to everton.

"It's worse than pochettino going to Tottenham, he left for a saints style project but with more money, Koeman went for the pay packet"

...I've yet to say anything.

And they haven't even sold any of his players!

 

[MkYid]

And they haven't even sold any of his players!

yet...

 

[worcestersauce]

yet...

I did write yet but then took it out but yes I agree they will be selling.
What will also happen is Southampton will bring in a very good coach and none of the Saints will grasp that, like Koeman, the new coach will be looking to move on to his next bigger club from day one.

 

[kythg]

Saints ITK from 2 days ago

Jack Schitt posted this 2 days ago


At the end of the season, Koeman verbally agreed to a new contract with Saints, even down to such details as what players would be leaving [Wanyama (most likely to Spurs), Pelle (most likely to Lazio), Juanmi (to Sociadad, already done) lol, I didn't even know he had gone!

and Mane (most likely to Man. Utd)] -- as well as discussing our transfer targets into the Club. This was all verbally agreed upon, leaving the finer details of Ron's actual contract itself to be sorted by his agent and settled when he returned from [his first] holiday.

Whilst he was away however, Everton approached Ronald's [now former] Agent, Guido Albers, to sound him out on Ronald's interest in taking up the Everton Job. His agent, taking Ronald at his word - "I like to honour my contract, I like to shtay at Saints" - [bear in mind that the agent had been involved in negotiating Ronald's new Saints contract, and therefore believed that he wished to stay] flatly turned down the Everton approach on behalf of Ronald, and instead put forward the name of another of his clients, Frank De Boer, who was indeed interested in the Everton job. [Two agent pay-days for the price of one!]

Everton, having already been turned down by their first choice, Unai Emery from Sevilla [who is off to PSG] were determined to get their second choice [Ronald Koeman] -- and so used Dutch agent Rob Jansen to approach Ronald with an "offer he could not refuse" -- i.e. £6-7 mill a year, and £100m transfer kitty to splash. Ronald was furious that his own agent [Albers] had refused the offer without even speaking to him first, and sacked him, taking on Rob Jansen in his place. And here is where things get interesting.

Koeman was not entirely dishonest -- as he wasn't really that interested in the Everton job. Who would be, when you've just got your team into European football for the second year running, already enjoy substantial backing from your board, the adoration of your loyal fan-base -- and Everton are nowhere? But what Koeman wanted to do, was to use this interest and concrete offer as a bargaining tool when he returned from his holiday, to say to the Saints Board "this is the kind of 'ambition' I am talking about". He wanted to "use" the Everton interest to get himself more spending money with Saints -- but he grossly overestimated his own "value" to the Saints Board.


Can't really blame him if they didn't value him, but I can obviously see why they are pissed off. I would hold the board more accountable than anyone else though to be honest - they can't expect managers to have their best players sold from under them every single year and it not to have some sort of impact on a successful managers willingness to stay. I'm Southampton will be fine but they will never progress unless they have some stability in terms of players and management.

 

[Yid_Summers]

Saints ITK from 2 days ago

Jack Schitt posted this 2 days ago


At the end of the season, Koeman verbally agreed to a new contract with Saints, even down to such details as what players would be leaving [Wanyama (most likely to Spurs), Pelle (most likely to Lazio), Juanmi (to Sociadad, already done) lol, I didn't even know he had gone!

and Mane (most likely to Man. Utd)] -- as well as discussing our transfer targets into the Club. This was all verbally agreed upon, leaving the finer details of Ron's actual contract itself to be sorted by his agent and settled when he returned from [his first] holiday.

Whilst he was away however, Everton approached Ronald's [now former] Agent, Guido Albers, to sound him out on Ronald's interest in taking up the Everton Job. His agent, taking Ronald at his word - "I like to honour my contract, I like to shtay at Saints" - [bear in mind that the agent had been involved in negotiating Ronald's new Saints contract, and therefore believed that he wished to stay] flatly turned down the Everton approach on behalf of Ronald, and instead put forward the name of another of his clients, Frank De Boer, who was indeed interested in the Everton job. [Two agent pay-days for the price of one!]

Everton, having already been turned down by their first choice, Unai Emery from Sevilla [who is off to PSG] were determined to get their second choice [Ronald Koeman] -- and so used Dutch agent Rob Jansen to approach Ronald with an "offer he could not refuse" -- i.e. £6-7 mill a year, and £100m transfer kitty to splash. Ronald was furious that his own agent [Albers] had refused the offer without even speaking to him first, and sacked him, taking on Rob Jansen in his place. And here is where things get interesting.

Koeman was not entirely dishonest -- as he wasn't really that interested in the Everton job. Who would be, when you've just got your team into European football for the second year running, already enjoy substantial backing from your board, the adoration of your loyal fan-base -- and Everton are nowhere? But what Koeman wanted to do, was to use this interest and concrete offer as a bargaining tool when he returned from his holiday, to say to the Saints Board "this is the kind of 'ambition' I am talking about". He wanted to "use" the Everton interest to get himself more spending money with Saints -- but he grossly overestimated his own "value" to the Saints Board.


Can't really blame him if they didn't value him, but I can obviously see why they are pissed off. I would hold the board more accountable than anyone else though to be honest - they can't expect managers to have their best players sold from under them every single year and it not to have some sort of impact on a successful managers willingness to stay. I'm Southampton will be fine but they will never progress unless they have some stability in terms of players and management.

Surely with those players leaving and being given money to spend, Soton would've had around the £80 million mark to play around with?

Now he's gone to Everton. If I was him, I'd sell Stones and Lukaku, use that money with the £100 million war chest and greatly improve the team and squad.

 

[yankspurs]

A Saints fan in my whatsapp group as you can imagine is pretty seething about Koeman going to everton.

"It's worse than pochettino going to Tottenham, he left for a saints style project but with more money, Koeman went for the pay packet"

...I've yet to say anything.

Rile him up damnt. Love seething Saints fans.

 

[absolute bobbins]

Let him/her fester for awhile before you do

Fuck that shit, poke the bear!

 

[yankspurs]

Surely with those players leaving and being given money to spend, Soton would've had around the £80 million mark to play around with?

Now he's gone to Everton. If I was him, I'd sell Stones and Lukaku, use that money with the £100 million war chest and greatly improve the team and squad.

No chance in hell that he was given £100m this summer. Sorry, I refuse to believe that Everton just have £100m lying around to use on transfers. All this war chest stuff i have a very hard time believing for any club outside of Madrid, Barca, United, PSG, City and Chelsea.

 

[Monkey boy]

No chance in hell that he was given £100m this summer. Sorry, I refuse to believe that Everton just have £100m lying around to use on transfers. All this war chest stuff i have a very hard time believing for any club outside of Madrid, Barca, United, PSG, City and Chelsea.

Well known that the new investor to Everton is one of the wealthiest men in football and will not be shy on splashing the cash. However I don't think £100 million will go as far as it would have not so long ago. Rejected offers of £20 million for Troy Deeney suggests as much.

 

[yankspurs]

Well known that the new investor to Everton is one of the wealthiest men in football and will not be shy on splashing the cash. However I don't think £100 million will go as far as it would have not so long ago. Rejected offers of £20 million for Troy Deeney suggests as much.

Joe Lewis is also one of the wealthiest men in football.

 

[Monkey boy]

Joe Lewis is also one of the wealthiest men in football.

And?

 

[longtimespur]

Joe Lewis is also one of the wealthiest men in football.

Your point is?

 

[E17yid]

Your point is?

I might be wrong but I think he's saying that Lewis is one of the richest people in football but doesn't "splash the cash" so this Everton guy might not as well.

 

[jurgen]

Saints ITK from 2 days ago

Jack Schitt posted this 2 days ago


At the end of the season, Koeman verbally agreed to a new contract with Saints, even down to such details as what players would be leaving [Wanyama (most likely to Spurs), Pelle (most likely to Lazio), Juanmi (to Sociadad, already done) lol, I didn't even know he had gone!

and Mane (most likely to Man. Utd)] -- as well as discussing our transfer targets into the Club. This was all verbally agreed upon, leaving the finer details of Ron's actual contract itself to be sorted by his agent and settled when he returned from [his first] holiday.

Whilst he was away however, Everton approached Ronald's [now former] Agent, Guido Albers, to sound him out on Ronald's interest in taking up the Everton Job. His agent, taking Ronald at his word - "I like to honour my contract, I like to shtay at Saints" - [bear in mind that the agent had been involved in negotiating Ronald's new Saints contract, and therefore believed that he wished to stay] flatly turned down the Everton approach on behalf of Ronald, and instead put forward the name of another of his clients, Frank De Boer, who was indeed interested in the Everton job. [Two agent pay-days for the price of one!]

Everton, having already been turned down by their first choice, Unai Emery from Sevilla [who is off to PSG] were determined to get their second choice [Ronald Koeman] -- and so used Dutch agent Rob Jansen to approach Ronald with an "offer he could not refuse" -- i.e. £6-7 mill a year, and £100m transfer kitty to splash. Ronald was furious that his own agent [Albers] had refused the offer without even speaking to him first, and sacked him, taking on Rob Jansen in his place. And here is where things get interesting.

Koeman was not entirely dishonest -- as he wasn't really that interested in the Everton job. Who would be, when you've just got your team into European football for the second year running, already enjoy substantial backing from your board, the adoration of your loyal fan-base -- and Everton are nowhere? But what Koeman wanted to do, was to use this interest and concrete offer as a bargaining tool when he returned from his holiday, to say to the Saints Board "this is the kind of 'ambition' I am talking about". He wanted to "use" the Everton interest to get himself more spending money with Saints -- but he grossly overestimated his own "value" to the Saints Board.


Can't really blame him if they didn't value him, but I can obviously see why they are pissed off. I would hold the board more accountable than anyone else though to be honest - they can't expect managers to have their best players sold from under them every single year and it not to have some sort of impact on a successful managers willingness to stay. I'm Southampton will be fine but they will never progress unless they have some stability in terms of players and management.

So he's basically saying he didn't want to leave SCBC because the project is so good, and it's such a huge club, but that he ended up fucking himself over and now has to go to a historically much bigger club (who are 'nowhere' - why would he be interested in them compared to Saints) because he underestimated what a mere pawn he was in the SCBC machine. SCBC come out as moral winners, showing Koeman who is boss - and like Alan Partridge, needless to say, having the last laugh. I'm sure he is crying himself to sleep that his ruse went awry.

What a load of old shite lol..

 

[yankspurs]

And?

Just because your wealthy doesnt mean your willing to splash the cash. Especially in the days of FFP where the clubs income matters and the money an owner puts into the club is not counted toward that income, unless its funneled through a sponsorship deal with a sister company(right, Leicester?)

 

[Insomnia]

Wow , so many people taking what Jack Schitt said as gospel. It's a funny old game

 

[Lighty64]

A Saints fan in my whatsapp group as you can imagine is pretty seething about Koeman going to everton.

"It's worse than pochettino going to Tottenham, he left for a saints style project but with more money, Koeman went for the pay packet"

...I've yet to say anything.

after nearly 5hours after your post, I hope you have rubbed it in bigtime

 

[worcestersauce]

So if two coaches in two years leave quoting the lack of ambition of the board and that they weren't ready to back their projects will the Saints fans get the message?

 

[Lilbaz]

So if two coaches in two years leave quoting the lack of ambition of the board and that they weren't ready to back their projects will the Saints fans get the message?

They'll blame us.