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Wheeler Dealer

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I think Lineker is very good at what he's supposed to do.

Match of the Day should by rights be a relic but he's given it a new lease of life. It's not really aimed at me, but the way he's extended the show on to social has been clever, and he has to pack a lot in to a little.
MOTD is a tedious watch when it's Shearer and Keown as the two pundits.. Talk about boring twats!
 

DCSPUR

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Apr 15, 2005
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I love Dele but the way some on here are defending him is ridiculous. Fact is if he played for any of our rivals he'd be receiving Wilshire levels of abuse on here, I am absolutely convinced of that. As for the pundits.... finding isolated clips from a 15-20 year career to prove their hypocrisy is amusing. Dele will have a 15 minute hi-light reel every season in comparison the way he is going.
agree to disagree. can't stand pundits like Shearer, who was a nasty and unsporting player, taking shots at our player. don't think anything Dele has done is worth the vitriol he receives.
 

double0

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Aug 29, 2006
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Dele is still pretty young and he will learn level out ,apart from one blatant dive against Huddersfield the others including the last questionable one against palace there was contact even though he seemed to be on he’s way down.

The wrongs and rights are in the public domain the thing is Dele has such volume because of he’s moment and positions taken up but make no mistake others are doing the same and Defenders are holding pulling etc in the box .

What makes me laugh about Shearer I remember the big debate with him and elbows.

Lineker balantly dived against Cameroon for England .

Now I’m not defending diving and to me Dele’s questionable one against Palace is borderline
 

Spurs 1961

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Aug 31, 2012
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agree to disagree. can't stand pundits like Shearer, who was a nasty and unsporting player, taking shots at our player. don't think anything Dele has done is worth the vitriol he receives.

Shearer ranks amongst the biggest cheats I have ever seen on a football pitch. I think he fouled every time he jumped for a ball with someone else. I really didn't like him as a player.

Of course we know that Leicester only won the title by cheating. Their central defenders usually had opposing forwards in permanent headlocks and the blatant cheating (by constantly fouling) was the sharpest aspect of their game ... apart maybe from the serial diving of Vardy.

Don't get me wrong I hate diving but can see why top attacking players do it when they know defenders get away with cheating maybe dozens of time in a game and no one says anything. In fact usually the players get lauded for 'taking one for the team' or 'professionalism' when they do get found out.

So where is the outcry from the media about Van Arnholt taking the legs from Dele and then trying to make the referee believe he dived? What about the shame of the goalkeeper for taking out Ben Davies and not owning up to the ref that he had committed a foul? Sadly such cheating is seen as OK.

Yes cut diving out but please please cut out the negative grabbing of players at every corner, cut out the clear fouls committed on attacking players in the penalty area and clean up the game overall
 

Trix

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Shearer ranks amongst the biggest cheats I have ever seen on a football pitch. I think he fouled every time he jumped for a ball with someone else. I really didn't like him as a player.

Of course we know that Leicester only won the title by cheating. Their central defenders usually had opposing forwards in permanent headlocks and the blatant cheating (by constantly fouling) was the sharpest aspect of their game ... apart maybe from the serial diving of Vardy.

Don't get me wrong I hate diving but can see why top attacking players do it when they know defenders get away with cheating maybe dozens of time in a game and no one says anything. In fact usually the players get lauded for 'taking one for the team' or 'professionalism' when they do get found out.

So where is the outcry from the media about Van Arnholt taking the legs from Dele and then trying to make the referee believe he dived? What about the shame of the goalkeeper for taking out Ben Davies and not owning up to the ref that he had committed a foul? Sadly such cheating is seen as OK.

Yes cut diving out but please please cut out the negative grabbing of players at every corner, cut out the clear fouls committed on attacking players in the penalty area and clean up the game overall

Just because Shearer was a dirty cheat of a player, it doesn't mean he is wrong about Dele. A hypocrite yes, but not wrong on this occasion.
 

BringBack_leGin

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Jul 28, 2004
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I love Dele but the way some on here are defending him is ridiculous. Fact is if he played for any of our rivals he'd be receiving Wilshire levels of abuse on here, I am absolutely convinced of that. As for the pundits.... finding isolated clips from a 15-20 year career to prove their hypocrisy is amusing. Dele will have a 15 minute hi-light reel every season in comparison the way he is going.
Sorry Trix but you’re off here, you don’t need to find old clips of Shearer to prove he was a cheat and, thus, a hypocrite. You just need to have watched him for twenty off years. He went down with minimal to no contact all the time, far less than Dele v Palace last Sunday. And unlike Dele, he intentionally put other players career in jeopardy on a regular basis with actions that would see him charged for ABH if done in public. I remember on game v us, his pace had gone a bit and he seemed to have a vendetta against Ginola’s shins all game. He never jumped without a swing of the elbow. We all know about him trying to take Neil Lennon’s head off. Shearer was a scumbag and a cheat but it’s glossed over because he was a great striker for England.
 

jurgen

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Ironskullll

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Nov 15, 2010
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Shearer ranks amongst the biggest cheats I have ever seen on a football pitch. I think he fouled every time he jumped for a ball with someone else. I really didn't like him as a player.

Of course we know that Leicester only won the title by cheating. Their central defenders usually had opposing forwards in permanent headlocks and the blatant cheating (by constantly fouling) was the sharpest aspect of their game ... apart maybe from the serial diving of Vardy.

Don't get me wrong I hate diving but can see why top attacking players do it when they know defenders get away with cheating maybe dozens of time in a game and no one says anything. In fact usually the players get lauded for 'taking one for the team' or 'professionalism' when they do get found out.

So where is the outcry from the media about Van Arnholt taking the legs from Dele and then trying to make the referee believe he dived? What about the shame of the goalkeeper for taking out Ben Davies and not owning up to the ref that he had committed a foul? Sadly such cheating is seen as OK.

Yes cut diving out but please please cut out the negative grabbing of players at every corner, cut out the clear fouls committed on attacking players in the penalty area and clean up the game overall
I wish there was more than a “winner” tag I could give this! That keeper incident was a foul straight away and would have been regardless of Dele’s reaction. It was a foul before any contact, because the keeper dived at the player without making any contact with the ball. That makes it a foul. What is Dele to do, hurdle him, possibly clipping his head with his boot? It’s his choice how he reacts, and aside from anything else, his action was the safest option for both himself and the keeper.
 

worcestersauce

"I'm no optimist I'm just a prisoner of hope
Jan 23, 2006
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Sad truth is that if you don't go down you don't get the penalty or free kick, I spent ten years watching Aaron Lennon staying on his feet when players in just about every other club would have gone down, he didn't get the decision and they did, I respect him but he paid for it and not one pundit ever argued his case.
I think Dele needs to tighten it up, get a bit cleverer with how he goes down because at the moment he isn't even getting the calls he should get.
 

Shadydan

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Jul 7, 2012
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I wish there was more than a “winner” tag I could give this! That keeper incident was a foul straight away and would have been regardless of Dele’s reaction. It was a foul before any contact, because the keeper dived at the player without making any contact with the ball. That makes it a foul. What is Dele to do, hurdle him, possibly clipping his head with his boot? It’s his choice how he reacts, and aside from anything else, his action was the safest option for both himself and the keeper.

I don't really have a problem with this, he just went down too early, if he went down a fraction later the action would have been justified, seems like there's a very thin line between clever play and cheating that people either wont' see or can't admit. Technically it was a foul by the keeper because he came for the ball and didn't get it therefore obstructed Dele but it was the timing of the fall which has got people's backs up I think.

I made the same point in regards to Kane's flop over Karius, what's the difference between that foul and this one, they both hurdled the keeper and knew they were gonna get clipped, Dele just made it more obvious.
 

Cornpattbuck

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Jul 23, 2013
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In my opinion he should have had penalties against United and the Van Aanholt challenge on Sunday but rather than accepting the refs decision it seems like he wants to even the score and get the penalty he feels he deserves. I worry that it will end up costing us in one of the big games soon.

Yeah, the second one v Palace was frustrating because it would have been a stonewall penalty if he'd just carried on running and hit the goaly, rather than pre-empting the challenge.
 

ajspurs

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Jul 7, 2007
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Sad truth is that if you don't go down you don't get the penalty or free kick, I spent ten years watching Aaron Lennon staying on his feet when players in just about every other club would have gone down, he didn't get the decision and they did, I respect him but he paid for it and not one pundit ever argued his case.
I think Dele needs to tighten it up, get a bit cleverer with how he goes down because at the moment he isn't even getting the calls he should get.

This is true and I've said before, it's not him going down that's the problem, he just needs to continue playing and let any sort of foul actually be committed first and foremost. The dive against Liverpool just reinforces the thought that in certain scenarios he's already thinking about a penalty before anything is done.
 

nightgoat

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Sep 12, 2005
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Mark Schwarzer
Ex-Chelsea keeper on BBC Radio 5 Live

The big question for Tottenham is, when they come up against the bigger teams, can they perform? But this is a competition they have a big, big chance of winning.

I dunno Mark. How'd we do against Real, Dortmund, Juventus, Man Utd, Liverpool and Arsenal?
 

Steffen

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Aug 31, 2012
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TV2, official PL broadcaster in Norway, had a piece today with their predictions for the top 4 race. All of the 6 pundits have us making the top 4, two of them believe we will overtake Liverpool.
One of them even states we are the second best team in the league, only topped by City.

It's in Norwegian, but their predictions for the remaining games and the final top 6 is easy enough to read ;)

PS: You'll recognize at least one of the pundits :love:

Edit: Didn't realize there was some graphs on probabilities of different league positions, calculated by number crunchers at GIG Sports. They give us 19,3% chance at 2nd place, 31,9% at 3rd, 34,1% at 4th, and 14,2% at 5th.
 

Col_M

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Feb 28, 2012
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TV2, official PL broadcaster in Norway, had a piece today with their predictions for the top 4 race. All of the 6 pundits have us making the top 4, two of them believe we will overtake Liverpool.
One of them even states we are the second best team in the league, only topped by City.

It's in Norwegian, but their predictions for the remaining games and the final top 6 is easy enough to read ;)

PS: You'll recognize at least one of the pundits :love:

Edit: Didn't realize there was some graphs on probabilities of different league positions, calculated by number crunchers at GIG Sports. They give us 19,3% chance at 2nd place, 31,9% at 3rd, 34,1% at 4th, and 14,2% at 5th.


Thanks. Although this section had me raging “. Forskjellen er blitt så stor. Det er litt synd at det er blitt slik at det er forventet at de skal vinn”.

How dare they?!
 
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nightgoat

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Sep 12, 2005
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Mark Schwarzer
Ex-Chelsea keeper on BBC Radio 5 Live

The way Tottenham are playing now at Wembley, they are feeling very much at home.

Against Juventus on Wednesday, it will become a fortress. You'd fancy them to win.

Oh, you've changed your tune...
 
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