What the pundits & media are saying about us

[Dillspur]

Well yeah, he’s Belgian - not Asian or African.

Racist....?

Also not true. You can actually have three. Eden, Thorgan and Kylian. I only know one Son.

For those who didn’t know, Hazard also captains the Belgium team. Make of that what you will of his attitude and commitment.

Isn't son also captain?

Means nothing, I've heard a number of Belgium fans being unhappy (with exactly what we're discussing) with Hazard prior to the last world cup.

 

[Davo99]

This is not the first time that all the sackings at Chelsea have been directly attributed to Hazard.

This is all purely guesswork.

 

[Davo99]

Racist....?



Isn't son also captain?

Means nothing, I've heard a number of Belgium fans being unhappy (with exactly what we're discussing) with Hazard prior to the last world cup.

Of South Korea. Pretty different to Belgium with the likes of Vertonghen, Kompany etc there.

I’ve heard a number of Belgium fans being happy with him. See, I can do that too.

 

[Dillspur]

This whole "debate" has become laborious and tiresome. Hazard is a bad egg when he wants to be. He has a ton of natural talent, that is something nobody is questioning. It's his mental attitude when it comes to managers. Got Conte sacked, got Mourinho the boot, about to get Sarri out also. That entire Chelsea dressing room is full of players who will down tools as soon as they don't like something. I'd rather have players that are willing to work their asses off regardless of their ability than anyone who would spoil the group and throw a tantrum just because.

I'm might not be remembering correctly, but in the past hasn't Hazard come out and said something positive about the previous managers only for them to get the sack that same season? Because he's just said something positive on chav TV about Sarri.

 

[Davo99]

So let me get this straight. Hazard is single handedly getting managers sacked by praising them?

This is just getting weird now.

 

[Dillspur]

Of South Korea. Pretty different to Belgium with the likes of Vertonghen, Kompany etc there.

I’ve heard a number of Belgium fans being happy with him. See, I can do that too.

If there wasn't a question mark over his attitude there wouldn't be as much division

 

[Shadydan]

This debate is boring now, come on gimme some more pundits saying nice things about Spurs so SC can rip into them

 

[Dillspur]

So let me get this straight. Hazard is single handedly getting managers sacked by praising them?

This is just getting weird now.

Haha, no. It's like when the board give their backing to a manager, 99% of the time the manager is sacked 2 weeks later.

 

[Tit&Ham]

As everyone is talking bollox im gonna join in

You can have two Son's in your team, but you cant have two Hazards.

How Many daughters and it depends on what kind of hazard....

 

[Davo99]

I think he has come out and said he can frustrate his managers with a lack of tracking back or what have you. But you often get that with forward players. As long as they heavily influence and apply themselves in attacking areas, you can afford a player this luxury, which I feel hazard does.

Put it this way, who would you rather have? Berbatov or Sam Vokes?

 

[Shadydan]

I think he has come out and said he can frustrate his managers with a lack of tracking back or what have you. But you often get that with forward players. As long as they heavily influence and apply themselves in attacking areas, you can afford a player this luxury, which I feel hazard does.

Put it this way, who would you rather have? Berbatov or Sam Vokes?

Yep definitely a valid comparison

 

[easley91]

So let me get this straight. Hazard is single handedly getting managers sacked by praising them?

This is just getting weird now.

Who said it was him on his own? He is one of the players with the most pull in the squad. I think it's a fair assumption to label him as one of those leading players when the squad ups their arms. Sarri even said himself this team has trouble being motivated. What does that tell you about the mental attitude of Hazard and the others?

Saying something in the media means bugger all. Plenty of people say I won't join this or that club, then down the line they do. He's smart, he won't say it in public until after Sarri goes or he does.

 

[Davo99]

Who said it was him on his own? He is one of the players with the most pull in the squad. I think it's a fair assumption to label him as one of those leading players when the squad ups their arms. Sarri even said himself this team has trouble being motivated. What does that tell you about the mental attitude of Hazard and the others?

Saying something in the media means bugger all. Plenty of people say I won't join this or that club, then down the line they do. He's smart, he won't say it in public until after Sarri goes or he does.

Well you did for one. Here:

“It's his mental attitude when it comes to managers. Got Conte sacked, got Mourinho the boot, about to get Sarri out also.”

 

[Davo99]

Yep definitely a valid comparison

Hey, I was just emphasising the point, a player universally deemed lazy, like a luxury player (berbatov) can be more effective than a real team player (Vokes) who has much less ability. I know who I’d rather have.

 

[easley91]

Well you did for one. Here:

“It's his mental attitude when it comes to managers. Got Conte sacked, got Mourinho the boot, about to get Sarri out also.”

Picking out one line when immediately after I state the entire Chelsea dressing room.

 

[Shadydan]

Hey, I was just emphasising the point, a player universally deemed lazy, like a luxury player (berbatov) can be more effective than a real team player (Vokes) who has much less ability. I know who I’d rather have.

Ozil or Eriksen?

 

[Davo99]

Picking out one line when immediately after I state the entire Chelsea dressing room.

I picked out the line of you saying he got two managers sacked, soon to be 3, yes. The next line about the whole dressing room doesn’t mention getting the manager sacked. If you didn’t mean it, don’t type it. Simple.

 

[Davo99]

Ozil or Eriksen?

In fairness, they are midfield players not forward players. So that’s not really a fair comparison either.

I’d say Ozil is the more talented, Eeiksen is the more well rounded.

You’ve also missed out two things I’ve said. I said a luxury player can be more effective than a player with much less ability. I don’t think that applies to Eriksen really. It would be more a question of Sissoko or Ozil.

The other thing I said is when the luxury player heavily influence and apply themselves in attacking areas, you can afford a player this luxury. If Ozil is doing this, he’s one hell of a player and better than Eriksen. Problem with him though, unlike my Berbatov example, he’s doesn’t.

 

[Davo99]

Ozil or Eriksen?

Hazard or Son?

 

[Shadydan]

In fairness, they are midfield players not forward players. So that’s not really a fair comparisons either.

I’d say Ozil is the more talented, Eeiksen is the more well rounded.

Actually they're both no10's who are classed as forwards regardless the comparison still stands as we're going by your argument of a player who is deemed lazy (Ozil) vs a player who is a real team player (although Eriksen doesn't have much less ability) regardless

Your comparison was a bit silly and now you're moving the goalposts again just to try and win a point tut tut

Okay then I'll humour you...Seeing as you want to use forwards who would you rather have Berbatov or Kane?