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[Dillspur]

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Lol please don’t listen to ****y.

This application stuff is rubbish too. Hazard applies himself in pretty much every game he plays and is a constant threat to the opponent. He’s by far and away Chelsea’s most dangerous player every game.

You could also argue he’s been more consistent than Son over his career. In fact, he has.

I assume you watch every chav game to know this then? I don't but I've seen Hazard stroll around the pitch not affecting games a number of times over the last few seasons he's also front and center when they decide they're had enough of who's in charge.

Whether you think cundy is a tit doesn't matter, I would take someone's opinion that watches him every game and is actually close to the club over yours.

 

[Shadydan]

Lol please don’t listen to ****y.

This application stuff is rubbish too. Hazard applies himself in pretty much every game he plays and is a constant threat to the opponent. He’s by far and away Chelsea’s most dangerous player every game.

You could also argue he’s been more consistent than Son over his career. In fact, he has.

Interestingly, any Chelsea fan I know absolutely love Hazard and would laugh you out of town for even suggesting Son’s better.

Hazard applies himself in every match you sure about that?

My mate is a season ticket holder at SB and says that he constantly downs tools, he doesn't like defending and there are times where he just simply can't be bothered. He told me the other day that he's already showing signs of it again under Sarri - his head has already pretty much gone with the whole Real Madrid distraction.

I don't want to get into the Hazard vs Son debate because it's obvious to anyone that Hazard has much more natural ability than Son, than many other players in this league but if we're talking about application and mentality then it's completely understandable as to why people would prefer Son over Hazard.

It's a silly argument anyway because I reckon if Hazard played under Poch you'd be seeing a more switched on player.

 

[Davo99]

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I assume you watch every chav game to know this then? I don't but I've seen Hazard stroll around the pitch not affecting games a number of times over the last few seasons he's also front and center when they decide they're had enough of who's in charge.

Whether you think cundy is a tit doesn't matter, I would take someone's opinion that watches him every game and is actually close to the club over yours.

what you don’t realise is a lot of my family are (shamefully) Chelsea fans, so when it’s not clashing with the Tottenham game, I will be watching the Chelsea game. I’d imagine I watch them a hell of a lot more than you do.


Explain to me then, oh wise one, how Hazard isn’t even close to Son in application and consistency? The stats don’t suggest that whatsoever either.

 

[Davo99]

Hazard applies himself in every match you sure about that?

My mate is a season ticket holder at SB and says that he constantly downs tools, he doesn't like defending and there are times where he just simply can't be bothered. He told me the other day that he's already showing signs of it again under Sarri - his head has already pretty much gone with the whole Real Madrid distraction.

I don't want to get into the Hazard vs Son debate because it's obvious to anyone that Hazard has much more natural ability than Son, than many other players in this league but if we're talking about application and mentality then it's completely understandable as to why people would prefer Son over Hazard.

It's a silly argument anyway because I reckon if Hazard played under Poch you'd be seeing a more switched on player.

I said in pretty much every game, and yes I am sure about that. I admit sometimes he can be a bit dissinterested lately as Chelsea’s form has switched off and Sarri has tried to changed too much too soon. Their main problem lies in the centre of midfield. Hazard isn’t the hardest worker that much is obvious, but he doesn’t just constantly down tools. That’s rubbish. He’s by far and away their most dangerous and creative player. Every player has dips and the whole Madrid thing doesn’t help the situation either.

But you even go on to pretty much say it yourself, Hazard is much the more talented player of the two. Sorry Son.

 

[cider spurs]

what you don’t realise is a lot of my family are (shamefully) Chelsea fans, so when it’s not clashing with the Tottenham game, I will be watching the Chelsea game. I’d imagine I watch them a hell of a lot more than you do.


Explain to me then, oh wise one, how Hazard isn’t even close to Son in application and consistency? The stats don’t suggest that whatsoever either.

Not my argument...but I've found better than a "wise one" to explain.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiag63__rjgAhXt2eAKHQciDBYQzPwBegQIARAC&url=https://metro.co.uk/2018/10/16/arsenal-legend-paul-merson-reveals-the-problem-with-chelsea-ace-eden-hazard-8043588/&psig=AOvVaw2lbqyg65ZuYkzeP1YFNyE2&ust=1550157007211188

 

[Davo99]

Not my argument...but I've found better than a "wise one" to explain.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiag63__rjgAhXt2eAKHQciDBYQzPwBegQIARAC&url=https://metro.co.uk/2018/10/16/arsenal-legend-paul-merson-reveals-the-problem-with-chelsea-ace-eden-hazard-8043588/&psig=AOvVaw2lbqyg65ZuYkzeP1YFNyE2&ust=1550157007211188

You are seriously now quoting Merson? Fucking hell. Cundy and Merson.

Incidentally, that article is of both Merson and Le Tissier both saying he’s the best in the league. Merson just constantly talks shit, Hazard going missing for six months of a 10 month season is complete bollocks. His stats don’t support this ridiculous notion.

 

[cider spurs]

You are seriously now quoting Merson? Fucking hell. Cundy and Merson.

Had to take it to the higher realm of intellect.

 

['O Zio]

I do think they get told to be so antagonising and caricatures - to get viewers. I suspect this stuff works in America.

I used to love Marcotti - until i saw the **** down High Street Kensington where he lives. He is a grade A rude fucking knob. Im not normally one to be so angered by other people who I dont know but he is a grade A******* ****.

I dunno mate, it certainly didn't work on me when I lived there. Couldn't stand it at all.

What did Marcotti do to you out of interest? In fairness he's quite rude on TV/podcasts to the other panelists anyway so it doesn't surrpise me if he's like that in real life.

 

[Mr Pink]

Hazard is the best dribbler in the league and one of the best in the world. His balance, his agility, his control and touch. His burst of acceleration past players, his ability to keep the ball in tight areas, his passing and vision is all superior to Son’s and pretty much everyone else tbh. Just look at Willian’s goal lately that he assisted. Pure magic. His movement is also vastly superior to Son’s, who’s constantly caught offside.

The stats should favour Son in that he’s played up front pretty much all season whereas Hazard has mainly played of the left, or used as a false 9 in a handful of games. They still don’t, however.

I can’t believe I’m having to even do this.

'His movement is vastly superior to Sons'


That is a bollox statement right there.

 

[Davo99]

'His movement is vastly superior to Sons'


That is a bollox statement right there.

No it’s not, Son is constantly caught offside due to ill-timed runs.

Nice argument though.

It may not be a popular opinion on a Tottenham site, but anyone with half a brain can see Hazard is the better player.

 

[wrd]

No it’s not, Son is constantly caught offside due to ill-timed runs.

Nice argument though.

That's actually a valid point, he's infuriating for that.

 

[Dillspur]

what you don’t realise is a lot of my family are (shamefully) Chelsea fans, so when it’s not clashing with the Tottenham game, I will be watching the Chelsea game. I’d imagine I watch them a hell of a lot more than you do.


Explain to me then, oh wise one, how Hazard isn’t even close to Son in application and consistency? The stats don’t suggest that whatsoever either.

If you need me to explain to you how Son's application is streets ahead of Hazard, then that's worrying. Why are you not capable of admitting that Hazard isn't even close to Son in some aspects of his game, I'm not sure anyone has disagreed with you about Hazard's technical abilities just his temperament/attitude and as an entire package that's why many would take Son over Hazard

 

[Davo99]

If you need me to explain to you how Son's application is streets ahead of Hazard, then that's worrying. Why are you not capable of admitting that Hazard isn't even close to Son in some aspects of his game, I'm not sure anyone has disagreed with you about Hazard's technical abilities just his temperament/attitude and as an entire package that's why many would take Son over Hazard

I am capable of that.

Yes I do need you to explain, which you seem reluctant to do - or more unable tbh.

Let me just bring up some stats then.

Hazards goal record in the prem. 81 in 233. Or 0.34 goals per game.

Son’s record? 41 in 119. Or 0.34 goals a game.

So in almost double the amount of games, that’s the exact same ratio for Hazard. So yes, I’ll need you to explain how Son is streets ahead of Hazard in consistency and application.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Which one, at their best, is the better player?

*Runs back to his chair, put feet up and tucks into some cake and a cuppa

 

[Davo99]

Which one, at their best, is the better player?

*Runs back to his chair, put feet up and tucks into some cake and a cuppa

Hazard, and it’s not even close. He’s unplayable when at his best. He’s completely destroyed us enough of times.

 

[Dillspur]

I am capable of that.

Yes I do need you to explain, which you seem reluctant to do - or more unable tbh.

We have a clear game plan which relies on a team working together, I've seen son chasing back, pressing and putting in a defensive effort for the team even if he hasn't affected the game in the final 3rd, something that I don't see from Hazard nearly as often. I've also seen him carry us a number of times when Kane has been injured, he is probably the main reason we have such a good record when Kane is out, the way he's played since he had the break in (November?) And since he came back from the Asian games has been at least on par of what Hazard has done.

I honestly couldn't see Hazard going off to an international tournament in January, coming back and putting the effort into the chavs as Son has done for us, the guy is a machine and is running himself into the ground. I don't see that same commitment from someone that has been flirting with Madrid for the last 3/4 transfer windows

 

[Davo99]

We have a clear game plan which relies on a team working together, I've seen son chasing back, pressing and putting in a defensive effort for the team even if he hasn't affected the game in the final 3rd, something that I don't see from Hazard nearly as often. I've also seen him carry us a number of times when Kane has been injured, he is probably the main reason we have such a good record when Kane is out, the way he's played since he had the break in (November?) And since he came back from the Asian games has been at least on par of what Hazard has done.

I honestly couldn't see Hazard going off to an international tournament in January, coming back and putting the effort into the chavs as Son has done for us, the guy is a machine and is running himself into the ground. I don't see that same commitment from someone that has been flirting with Madrid for the last 3/4 transfer windows

Well yeah, he’s Belgian - not Asian or African.

 

[HailKingLevy]

As everyone is talking bollox im gonna join in

You can have two Son's in your team, but you cant have two Hazards.

 

[Davo99]

As everyone is talking bollox im gonna join in

You can have two Son's in your team, but you cant have two Hazards.

Also not true. You can actually have three. Eden, Thorgan and Kylian. I only know one Son.

For those who didn’t know, Hazard also captains the Belgium team. Make of that what you will of his attitude and commitment.

 

[easley91]

This whole "debate" has become laborious and tiresome. Hazard is a bad egg when he wants to be. He has a ton of natural talent, that is something nobody is questioning. It's his mental attitude when it comes to managers. Got Conte sacked, got Mourinho the boot, about to get Sarri out also. That entire Chelsea dressing room is full of players who will down tools as soon as they don't like something. I'd rather have players that are willing to work their asses off regardless of their ability than anyone who would spoil the group and throw a tantrum just because.