What the pundits & media are saying about us

[Pellshek]

We're the 12 biggest football club by revenue in the world right now, that's without the new stadium and without regular CL participation, we are a lot closer to being a "big club" than you give us credit for.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deloitte_Football_Money_League#2014.E2.80.9315

I never know what to make of this table. It's a ranking based on "revenue generated from football operations".

Which is why I don't really understand how PSG and City are in there at #4 and #6, along with Real, Barca, Man. Utd. and Bayern. There must be some bleed-through of ownership money into "revenue from football ops" there, because neither club has a huge global fanbase, nor massive stadiums, nor regular CL success, nor any of the other things that apply to those big 4 others.

 

[chaching]

Except that he hasn't and we aren't. It's just hubris to suggest so. Being a "big club" does not result from a couple of Champions League campaigns, nor even if we win the Premiership once or twice. It has to do with having a huge worldwide fanbase, a 60k+ stadium, a global "brand" [hate that word] and a history of dominance measured in decades. It also has to do with financial muscle and international marketing tie-ins.

We are in the throes of dealing with the first requisite for becoming a "big club " in the modern sense, which is to develop a big-club-sized stadium. We are also pursuing key global promotional partnerships, e.g., with the NFL, to increase our brand recognition. If we can manage to win a Premiership title or two and to compete in the CL on an every-other-year basis, as opposed to occasionally, then this will attract of millions of fans in other countries and will further increase our profile and our financial clout.

But it will take another decade to achieve, even with a fair wind and on-pitch success. Even if we achieve it, we will not be able to reach the level of Manchester United, Barcelona, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich, because they have too big a head start.

Barking out that "we are a big club" doesn't cut it; it doesn't convince anyone outside the Spurs echo chamber.

I think the hope is that Poch sees this as his chance to make all that and be held in the same regard as Busby, Shankly, Ferguson and Bill Nicholson. At the moment we do not know if this will become reality or is completely and absolutely delusional. I want to believe its the former and so far he has said and done the right things for this but my long time watching and being disappointed by Spurs and the way football works suggests its the latter.

Ah sod it, Spurs rose (although never red) tinted glasses on its going to happen.

 

[davidmatzdorf]

We're the 12 biggest football club by revenue in the world right now, that's without the new stadium and without regular CL participation, we are a lot closer to being a "big club" than you give us credit for.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deloitte_Football_Money_League#2014.E2.80.9315

That's useful. If you look at the actual revenue figures and not just the rankings, there are big gaps after no. 9 (Liverpool) and no. 10 (Juventus). At no. 12, our revenue is only 55% of Man Utd in 6th place. It's not even close.

Let's have another look at that list in 3 years, when our new stadium is up and running and - we hope - we have a couple of CL campaigns to look back upon. It looks feasible for us to scratch our way up to no. 9 or 10 if we get a fair wind. But the list just reinforces what I wrote, which is that the top 6 clubs (I forgot PSG and intentionally ignored Man City) are too far ahead to be competed with, financially speaking.

 

[$hoguN]

"We talk about Pep, Jose and Klopp but Pochettino for me is an absolutely brilliant coach, there is no doubt," Neville said on Sky Sports.

"The job he has done at two clubs in the Premier League has been wonderful and he deserves, not being disrespectful to Tottenham, the biggest jobs in the world. He's giving the best dress rehearsals you could possibly wish for."

If you have to clarify whether you are being disrespectful or not, you a) are being disrespectful and b) probably a bit of a **** too. Both are true in this instance

 

[am_yisrael_chai]

That's useful. If you look at the actual revenue figures and not just the rankings, there are big gaps after no. 9 (Liverpool) and no. 10 (Juventus). At no. 12, our revenue is only 55% of Man Utd in 6th place. It's not even close.

Let's have another look at that list in 3 years, when our new stadium is up and running and - we hope - we have a couple of CL campaigns to look back upon. It looks feasible for us to scratch our way up to no. 9 or 10 if we get a fair wind. But the list just reinforces what I wrote, which is that the top 6 clubs (I forgot PSG and intentionally ignored Man City) are too far ahead to be competed with, financially speaking.

Once we have the new stadium there is absolutely no reason our revenues should be below the goons.

 

[am_yisrael_chai]

I never know what to make of this table. It's a ranking based on "revenue generated from football operations".

Which is why I don't really understand how PSG and City are in there at #4 and #6, along with Real, Barca, Man. Utd. and Bayern. There must be some bleed-through of ownership money into "revenue from football ops" there, because neither club has a huge global fanbase, nor massive stadiums, nor regular CL success, nor any of the other things that apply to those big 4 others.

It includes sponsorship revenues both of which are doped at PSG and Citeh.

 

[Sweech]

I'd think Barca would be a toss-up, they have a few players that might buy into his system but they might not. Madrid however would be a clusterfuck, too many egos, not to mention he'll get little or no support from the President to allow him the freedom to properly implement his system either.

Barca is basically a no go for Poch.

He's an Espanyol legend. It's like Ledley King taking over for Wenger.

 

[DogsOfWar]

I never know what to make of this table. It's a ranking based on "revenue generated from football operations".

Which is why I don't really understand how PSG and City are in there at #4 and #6, along with Real, Barca, Man. Utd. and Bayern. There must be some bleed-through of ownership money into "revenue from football ops" there, because neither club has a huge global fanbase, nor massive stadiums, nor regular CL success, nor any of the other things that apply to those big 4 others.

They have disproportionately high commercial deals from other Middle Eastern companies which is basically financial doping to get around the fair play system.
City were the worst as they explained the deals as being based on future success. They also included all sorts of questionable 'extras' such as naming rights for the road leading to the training academy etc.
The deals were originally questioned but their lawyers were too clever.

 

[Luka Van der Bale]

Once we have the new stadium there is absolutely no reason our revenues should be below the goons.

Let's not be silly. Their worldwide fanbase is far bigger than ours. No shame in admitting that, and it's an issue that can be worked on.

 

[danielneeds]

Barca is basically a no go for Poch.

He's an Espanyol legend. It's like Ledley King taking over for Wenger.

Do Barca and the fans really give a fuck about Eapanyol though? I imagine it's similar to the do way we view Barnet or Leyton Orient. Of course Espanyol hate them...

 

[southlondonyiddo]

Let's not be silly. Their worldwide fanbase is far bigger than ours. No shame in admitting that, and it's an issue that can be worked on.

The result of 20 odd years of continuous CL football unfortunately!

 

[Luka Van der Bale]

Do Barca and the fans really give a fuck about Eapanyol though? I imagine it's similar to the do way we view Barnet or Leyton Orient. Of course Espanyol hate them...

Bit like Parker moving to Spurs I suppose really.

 

[mezza84]

Do Barca and the fans really give a fuck about Eapanyol though? I imagine it's similar to the do way we view Barnet or Leyton Orient. Of course Espanyol hate them...

True Catalans hate them. Symbol of the regime.

 

[danielneeds]

True Catalans hate them. Symbol of the regime.

Ah, true, forgot about that angle...

 

[davidmatzdorf]

Once we have the new stadium there is absolutely no reason our revenues should be below the goons.

Match day revenues, yes, but they're the tail, not the dog. The international brand-related, marketing, tie-in and merchandising revenues should also climb, if we can turn this current wonderful squad, high-quality academy and brilliant manager into sustained on-pitch success. Even then, it will take 5 years or more to build our international profile up to the level where it can compete with Arsenal et al.

 

[Mr Pink]

It's the same thing everytime when a Club punches considerably above its weight - certain pundits/sections of the media can't wait to start driving speculation.

Anything to cause some instability. Just because United are shite and wont ever see that level of dominance again.

 

[ravo]

Surely they play fernandinho next to gundogan. Both can pass and both have the skill to beat opponents. No need for fernando to play then. Fernandinho as DM and gundogan between him and the attacking players. Easy.

Agree. But they didn't and Fernando got owned.

 

[Sweech]

Do Barca and the fans really give a fuck about Eapanyol though? I imagine it's similar to the do way we view Barnet or Leyton Orient. Of course Espanyol hate them...

It doesn't matter what the Barca fans think. It's what the Espanyol fans think. He still has large ties to the club and still openly talks about how he still loves them. All those ties and good will would be shattered should he join Barca.

Like I said it's like one of ours joining Arsenal when they were in their heyday and we were shit. How'd that go for Judas?

It's funny now that we've become good our fans seem to totally disregard lower level teams even though we aren't that many years off since we were similar to Espanyol. Espanyol fans care and they care deeply, where they are in the table has fuck all to do with how much those fans care about that rivalry - Poch having played and then coached there knows that better than anyone.

 

[Flashspur]

"We talk about Pep, Jose and Klopp but Pochettino for me is an absolutely brilliant coach, there is no doubt," Neville said on Sky Sports.

"The job he has done at two clubs in the Premier League has been wonderful and he deserves, not being disrespectful to Tottenham, the biggest jobs in the world. He's giving the best dress rehearsals you could possibly wish for."

No disrespect to you Gary me old chum, but the biggest job in the world is not Yanited anymore. Man City - big only in terms of the petro dollars backing them otherwise just a small club in Manchester. As to the obvious choices - Real and Barca. I wonder if he would even want to go to the circus that surrounds those clubs. For a start Real is a poisoned chalice and Barca - well he is not a Barca style manager. Never will be. Poch's brutal in your face football isn't going to go over well in tiki taka land.

After that who do you have? Juve a big club in a pretty ordinary Serie A - and a big step down from the PL. Bayern? Why would you go to a one club league? As for the rest - they are pretty much in Spurs space as top 12 in the world. So come again - biggest jobs in the world. Really?

 

[ohtottenham!]

No disrespect to you Gary me old chum, but the biggest job in the world is not Yanited anymore. Man City - big only in terms of the petro dollars backing them otherwise just a small club in Manchester. As to the obvious choices - Real and Barca. I wonder if he would even want to go to the circus that surrounds those clubs. For a start Real is a poisoned chalice and Barca - well he is not a Barca style manager. Never will be. Poch's brutal in your face football isn't going to go over well in tiki taka land.

After that who do you have? Juve a big club in a pretty ordinary Serie A - and a big step down from the PL. Bayern? Who would you go to a one club league? As for the rest - they are pretty much in Spurs space as top 12 in the world. So come again - biggest jobs in the world. Really?

Agree. Also think that Levy has to bend over and let Poch do what he wants going forward. Let him be our Fergie, Wenger etc., We ain't had anyone like Poch since, well anyone I can remember! Loved Burkinshaw, can't properly speak about Bill Nich 'cause I was too young. But now, we have the man with all the qualities to be the face of a hugely successful club. Just hope we pull out all the stops to keep him!