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Jonboy

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I saw my arse with some end of bellness after united beat us in the semi final. Saying Poch has taken us as far as he can whilst leaving Wembley
 

Typical Spurs

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You sir should read properly what is being said about Poch . If you did you would know that there is a growing amount of people that want Poch out i am not being a " drama queen " I can distinguish between genuine critique and if you are saying that my belief that there is a growing band of people that want Poch out is just me not understanding the words I am using then let me put this as simply as possible so that my ignorance cannot be misunderstood " there is a growing band of people that want Poch out " now if I have used words i don't understand please enlighten me to which words .
I might suggest that is you that is in denial rather than me making things up .

I understand what you're saying mate. But.... we're adults and even if fans did want Poch out, so what?!

He's the best manager we've had in my lifetime. But he's not a Messiah. He's not some tactical magician. He has made us a consistent top 4 team which given our finances is a really great achievement.

But there is no doubt that not only are we playing very poorly, there seems to be 'stuff' going on behind the scenes and suddenly all doesn't feel well. Backed up by Poch's press conferences which are beginning to become tiresome, I can't blame people for maybe wondering if his journey has run its course. I want to keep him but understand those who might be exited/intrigued about maybe a new management team coming in.

After all, we are no longer a team trying to become established in the top 4. We are a team who want to be considered with the best in England and Europe and there is no saying that Poch is the man who can lead this step up for Tottenham Hotspur.
 

buckley

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Sep 15, 2012
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Poch is the best thing to happen to this club for many a year and for me he should only leave when it suits him hopefully many years from now . All I was saying that there are rumblings of discontent that I would guess are newer supporters that have not been thru the years of dross that a lot of us have been thru but even in those years apart from Graham and AVB generally the supporters did not turn on the managers it was just a thing I had noticed that some dumb people wanted Poch out and it would be the worst thing for this club if he was hounded out by these people making these " Poch out noises " .I have had a blast aimed at me by Bobbins when I am fully 100% behind Poch and his anger should be aimed at the naysayers . All I am saying is it would be folly to ignore these " Poch out " merchants and the rest of us SUPPORTERS should be on their case . Not on the messenger reporting what he had noticed.
 

'O Zio

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I am sure at least I hope am correct in believing that Poch does not involve himself fans sites such as ours .
If he does then I suggest the best manager we have had in years could be driven out of our club by people that seem to have little interest in spurs best interest

I'm fairly certain that a former club captain, full international for Argentina and highly respected PL manager is not weak minded enough to be "forced out" by what a few teenagers and armchair warriors write about him on some internet message board. If we was, he'd never have achieved what he has in either his playing career or management.
 

double0

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Aug 29, 2006
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I'm all in for Pochettinho it's important he is backed for the greater good in terms of longevity continued progression. If we think about it Pochettinho will have to reshape squads freshened things up and let players go. The way Levy operates in the transfer market, deals are usually drawn out leaving Pochettinho on the back foot with preparation. Pochettinho if you listen to him has been very clear about the project and processes. It's clear we are into another phase from the CL and Stadium build... Certain players want out some need to leave the process is long winded and let's hope lessons have been learnt on the transition. I reckon more players will be brought who will be of the managers first chioce and Pochettinho need backing imo he'll have things in better order once confusion has stopped with the European window.
 

Trees

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Aug 31, 2012
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I think the main worry is that we were so insipid against Newcastle. We looked so disjointed. Worst performance since 14/15 to my mind.
 

Fidget

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Jun 22, 2014
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I am sure at least I hope am correct in believing that Poch does not involve himself fans sites such as ours .
If he does then I suggest the best manager we have had in years could be driven out of our club by people that seem to have little interest in spurs best interest .
There vitriol and downright contempt for Poch is worrying and the sooner these nut jobs F off and support some other club and try to destabilise them the better.
They post and write in a way that suggest we should be winning every game every week and in their minds they ere entitled to expect this . A nervy edgy start to the season with a poor showing up till now and these numpties would hound Poch out of our club .
If you can't see that the Eriksen / Verts / Toby / situation plus not having Sessegnon / L Celso / is having an effect that is not helping us plus we have had poor starts under Poch 4 out of 5 seasons but managed to come good then I am dismayed at these peoples shortsightedness. Why not wait until a full squad is available plus the transfer window is closed plus the international break is over before making knee jerk decisions that are the hallmark of the entitled and impatient and intolerant.
yeah about xmas time?
 

rossdapep

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Aug 25, 2011
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Poch is the best thing to happen to this club for many a year and for me he should only leave when it suits him hopefully many years from now . All I was saying that there are rumblings of discontent that I would guess are newer supporters that have not been thru the years of dross that a lot of us have been thru but even in those years apart from Graham and AVB generally the supporters did not turn on the managers it was just a thing I had noticed that some dumb people wanted Poch out and it would be the worst thing for this club if he was hounded out by these people making these " Poch out noises " .I have had a blast aimed at me by Bobbins when I am fully 100% behind Poch and his anger should be aimed at the naysayers . All I am saying is it would be folly to ignore these " Poch out " merchants and the rest of us SUPPORTERS should be on their case . Not on the messenger reporting what he had noticed.
Like Wenger?
 

Joshua shepherd

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Jan 31, 2013
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Poch is the best thing to happen to this club for many a year and for me he should only leave when it suits him hopefully many years from now . All I was saying that there are rumblings of discontent that I would guess are newer supporters that have not been thru the years of dross that a lot of us have been thru but even in those years apart from Graham and AVB generally the supporters did not turn on the managers it was just a thing I had noticed that some dumb people wanted Poch out and it would be the worst thing for this club if he was hounded out by these people making these " Poch out noises " .I have had a blast aimed at me by Bobbins when I am fully 100% behind Poch and his anger should be aimed at the naysayers . All I am saying is it would be folly to ignore these " Poch out " merchants and the rest of us SUPPORTERS should be on their case . Not on the messenger reporting what he had noticed.

George Graham - yes
Hoddle - no
Santini - not long enough in charge
Jol - no
Ramos - yes
Redknapp - 50/50 by the time he left
Avb - yes
Sherwood - yes
Poch - no

I’d say it really isn’t a one off, of the above I would say 4 of the last 5 were demanded out by the time they got the chop with the ones before really endearing themselves to the fans.

Newer fans or not I don’t think it’s legitimate to say we are a club that sticks with our managers to the death.
 

worcestersauce

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Jan 23, 2006
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George Graham - yes
Hoddle - no
Santini - not long enough in charge
Jol - no
Ramos - yes
Redknapp - 50/50 by the time he left
Avb - yes
Sherwood - yes
Poch - no

I’d say it really isn’t a one off, of the above I would say 4 of the last 5 were demanded out by the time they got the chop with the ones before really endearing themselves to the fans.

Newer fans or not I don’t think it’s legitimate to say we are a club that sticks with our managers to the death.
I'd say we didn't turn on Graham, there was no turning we didn't want him from the start and Ramos had us on two points from eight games so I don't think it's fair to say we turned on him he just had to go. Radknapp made it clear he wanted the England job and must take the blame for the collapse at the end of that season and Sherwood was a caretaker who turned on his players so I don't think it's quite as simple as we did or we didn't it's just as much the case we didn't make the right choices. Not that I believe the pundits would agree with me.
 

'O Zio

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I'd say we didn't turn on Graham, there was no turning we didn't want him from the start and Ramos had us on two points from eight games so I don't think it's fair to say we turned on him he just had to go. Radknapp made it clear he wanted the England job and must take the blame for the collapse at the end of that season and Sherwood was a caretaker who turned on his players so I don't think it's quite as simple as we did or we didn't it's just as much the case we didn't make the right choices. Not that I believe the pundits would agree with me.

Exactly. At a certain point you can't really say the chairman's hand was forced by the fans "turning on" the manager. With some of them their position had basically become completely untenable so they had to go regardless of what fans thought about it all.
 

spursville

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Who on Earth would we get to replace Poch. Unless Simeone wants to come I think we should stick with what we have. Most of the shitstorm that we have has been created by not investing in the squad in the last three years - presumably down to finances.
 

buckley

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Sep 15, 2012
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David Bentley and Jamie O'Hara mouthing off at what they see as problems at Tottenham these so called problems are figments of their imagination and do not exist and for me not real Tottenham men . Its people like Roberts / Mabbut / Chivers /Ardiles who when they speak about Tottenham it is not to talk about some problem that they have made up in their own mind . No the real Tottenham men talk facts but there opinions are always positive and not making up problems that do not exist .
You never hear Ex players of other clubs digging out there old club but we seem plagued with them .
 

Lilbaz

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Apr 1, 2005
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David Bentley and Jamie O'Hara mouthing off at what they see as problems at Tottenham these so called problems are figments of their imagination and do not exist and for me not real Tottenham men . Its people like Roberts / Mabbut / Chivers /Ardiles who when they speak about Tottenham it is not to talk about some problem that they have made up in their own mind . No the real Tottenham men talk facts but there opinions are always positive and not making up problems that do not exist .
You never hear Ex players of other clubs digging out there old club but we seem plagued with them .

You not heard wrighty talk about arsenal the last couple of years or neville about utd?
 
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