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What Went Wrong For Érik Lamela At Spurs?

tiger666

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I didn't put disagree rating on anyone's post who's point I disagreed with? I responded with my views and got 10 disagrees for a balanced view. Sorry a lot of it is childish. I couldn't give a shit about the ratings they don't bother me. but respond to a post rather than just hit the disagree button.

Ok. I disagree with what you said. His shooting and passing are fine.
 

piedpiper

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Disagreeing with a point of view is not childish.
Calling people "fanboy club" is childish.

We've been down this road before and i dont want this thread closed because of my views on certain poster's which includes you Tiger.

Needless to say your collective reactions to any differing view is exactly that of a FanBoy club.
 

Trix

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With so little feedback from the club, over the time of his absence, there's no surprise fans have been speculating wildly. It's all they've got.

Club could have fed little nuggets to manage negative surmising.

What should they have been saying considering the information hadn't changed? The club clearly relayed the info that it was a hip injury and guess what, it still is.
 

piedpiper

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They're only saying they disagree.

It's not exactly a lynch mob.

Thanks mate for a mature response. I've seen enough of the same group who spam/ doh a post because there is an opposing view on said player. It is the same group. Hence I've dubbed them the FanBoy club.
 

DiscoD1882

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Ok. I disagree with what you said. His shooting and passing are fine.
Ok and I will respond with

13/14 season - 9 apps - 0 PL Goals
14/15 Season - 33 apps - 2 PL Goals
15/16 Season - 34 apps - 5 Goals
16/17 Season - 9 apps - 1 Goal

So 86 app - 8 goals in the league. So one every 10 Games. .

Does this change anyone's mind. Stats are an amazing thing. until you actually look where his goals have been scored.
 

dontcallme

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Thanks mate for a mature response. I've seen enough of the same group who spam/ doh a post because there is an opposing view on said player. It is the same group. Hence I've dubbed them the FanBoy club.

Maybe they give the ratings not because of your view but the way you present it.

People labelling posts knee-jerk, fanboys, fickle, sheep etc understandably get a negative response.
 

thinktank

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What should they have been saying considering the information hadn't changed? The club clearly relayed the info that it was a hip injury and guess what, it still is.
Possibly, an interview with coco (unless I'm missing one already being done)?

Hearing it from his lips might have assuaged fears.

Fans wanted reassurance and 'contact'. If they feel kept in the dark, don't be surprised if they scramble about clutching at things.

Sometimes I think the club could do better in taking the fans' 'temperature' on some things and prescribing accordingly.
 

tiger666

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Possibly, an interview with coco (unless I'm missing one already being done)?

Hearing it from his lips might have assuaged fears.

Fans wanted reassurance and 'contact'. If they feel kept in the dark, don't be surprised if they scramble about clutching at things.

Sometimes I think the club could do better in taking the fans' 'temperature' on some things and prescribing accordingly.

You're not entitled to anything.
 

piedpiper

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Maybe they give the ratings not because of your view but the way you present it.

People labelling posts knee-jerk, fanboys, fickle, sheep etc understandably get a negative response.

Understood.... however im not referencing my posts or ratings. Go look in any of the Lamela threads and any unfavourable view of the players ability is negged.
 

dontcallme

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Understood.... however im not referencing my posts or ratings. Go look in any of the Lamela threads and any unfavourable view of the players ability is negged.

Not going to lie, really can't be bothered to do that.

But I have read posts that are not in favour of players like Lamela that don't get neg ratings. This is due to the way they are presented.

I've written posts stating my view that Sissoko is not good enough for us and will never be a success but barely received a neg rep in return. Other posters in the same thread saying pretty much the same thing as me get neg repped because they give their opinion in disrespectful or dickish way.

I have no doubt there are posters that give neg reps for opposing views but I don't think it is a majority thing.
 

$hoguN

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sorry league table says we haven't missed him? As I stated before I just don't rate him as highly as others. I don't care how many internet disagrees I get, That's my view.

I didn't say I hate him and I want him gone. I explained my reasoning. That's my view. agree or disagree.
No it doesn't, we aren't sitting 10 points clear we are in second. No-one knows if he would have made a difference but to suggest our league position suggest we don't miss him or cousins have made a difference is just wrong
 

$hoguN

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With so little feedback from the club, over the time of his absence, there's no surprise fans have been speculating wildly. It's all they've got.

Club could have fed little nuggets to manage negative surmising.
Or they could just not comment on it like they didn't for Dembele or pretty much any other injury any of squad picks up
 

dontcallme

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Or they could just not comment on it like they didn't for Dembele or pretty much any other injury any of squad picks up

TBF Dembele has been here a number of years and before us was with Fulham. He seems pretty settled.

We have read about Lamela going back to Rome to get his head right and he made a comment about staying another year last season.

Adding everything together there is going to be more speculation about Lamela than Dembele. People chat about hypotheticals on the internet, it's not unusual.
 

piedpiper

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Not going to lie, really can't be bothered to do that.

But I have read posts that are not in favour of players like Lamela that don't get neg ratings. This is due to the way they are presented.

I've written posts stating my view that Sissoko is not good enough for us and will never be a success but barely received a neg rep in return. Other posters in the same thread saying pretty much the same thing as me get neg repped because they give their opinion in disrespectful or dickish way.

I have no doubt there are posters that give neg reps for opposing views but I don't think it is a majority thing.

I think there is common ground on Sissoko though........Like i said i once expressed my views on Lamela pretty much like Disco has done. I must say he did not come across as dickish or offensive yet the result is the same.

Thanks for the mature engagment though(y).
 

Rout-Ledge

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I hope it's just an injury and Lamela is keen to get back playing for Spurs next season and signs a new deal.

He's a brilliant squad player to have when he's fit, and good enough for the starting 11. However, playing with our current formation Lamela doesn't get in the absolute first choice team ahead of Eriksen or Alli. If we do end up losing him, it's not the end of the world.
 

jezz

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Ok and I will respond with

13/14 season - 9 apps - 0 PL Goals
14/15 Season - 33 apps - 2 PL Goals
15/16 Season - 34 apps - 5 Goals
16/17 Season - 9 apps - 1 Goal

So 86 app - 8 goals in the league. So one every 10 Games. .

Does this change anyone's mind. Stats are an amazing thing. until you actually look where his goals have been scored.
1 point of the top in EPL and still in CL When he got injured.
The record books show 11 goals (second) and 10 assists (second) last season.
Ask any player if they don't count there goals scored in Europe and answer is no.
 

Sweech

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sorry league table says we haven't missed him? As I stated before I just don't rate him as highly as others. I don't care how many internet disagrees I get, That's my view.

I didn't say I hate him and I want him gone. I explained my reasoning. That's my view. agree or disagree.
Haven't lost a game without Kane this season.

Guess the league table says we don't miss him. :rolleyes:

In fact we've picked up results while missing any key player you can name. This is a very poor argument.
 
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