What's Tim doing?

[tototoner]

I just read a rumor that former US national team coach Bob Bradley is in line to become Director of Football at Villa.

I can't imagine how Sherwood will react to an American DOF, if that comes true.

He had been linked with Villa for years

 

[nuttynoah]

jammy dodger

 

[L-man]

http://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/9742567/sherwood-ecstatic-with-first-win

I actually quite like Tim but how cringe is this. He's clearly expecting barrels of laughter after the Euromillions joke

 

[thinktank]

http://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/9742567/sherwood-ecstatic-with-first-win

I actually quite like Tim but how cringe is this. He's clearing expecting barrels of laughter after the Euromillions joke

He IS Mr Cringe.

Needs to score a good few goals to stay up as they will let many in against good teams.

They got a chance now though. Should have got a pen in that game imo so fair result.

 

[Insomnia]

they deserved to win & he was pure theatre on the touchline, I think the Villa fans will be marmite & split down the middle with him much like our fans are/ were

 

[tototoner]

talking tim on talksport now and all the villa fans so far really warming to him and said the atmosphere at villa park last night was best its been in years, seems his confidence is rubbing off on them.

 

[tototoner]

Sherwood thread on Villatalk

http://www.villatalk.com/index.php/topic/12760-the-tim-sherwood-thread/page-156

 

[Shea]

Last night was a huge win for Villa, and Sherwood

Must win game, had they failed to win (especially if they'd lost) against a local rival and potential relegation battle rival the mood around the club would have been back to rock bottom after the potential new manager bounce in mood

His first win gives him/them something to build on - I think he'll get them creating more chances and scoring more goals what with Benteke, Abonglarhor and Weinman at his disposal but they'll continue to leak them against the better teams

I think he can keep them up but it will depend on how many teams around him continue to fail to get results and how many winnable games Villa have in their run in (I don't really see them upsetting any decent teams but they can and should be their direct rivals really lb for lb)

Things had gotten so bad under Lambert that any change had the potential to create a positive response, but if Sherwood had lost yesterday and failed to win any of his first three I think they'd have been in the shit, Now there is every chance they will have an upturn in results and stay up

 

[eddiebailey]

Villa fans had been encouraged by the performance against Newcastle and I think it is the performance as much as the result against West Brom that has them buzzing.

Sherwood is an attack-minded coach, which fans like, but opening the game up and playing the percentages also means that where they have the better players they will generally get the result. In a coach being too risk averse can be worse than being too gung ho. A lot of the Villa players who had been playing below their potential seemed reinvigorated last night

 

[225]

I think they'll see the same guy we did.

Everything is rosey in the Sherwood paradigm, until they get a good spank at the hands of a far superior team whilst playing over ambitious tactics or unconventional lineups/plays out of position.

That's the point where he changed for us, and for the fan's perception. Sherwood doesn't win for the team, he does it for himself in a way - take it personally when they lose, wants the glory when they win.

His eccentricity will be the tipping point, especially if he starts flapping, as he'll be sat in the stands and running up and down the terraces (so to speak) during the game, and should he want to deflect the blame on the players.... well, you know the rest.

 

[VegasII]

Wonder if he'll have a tantrum and try to fight Poch at the lane.

 

[eddiebailey]

Wonder if he'll have a tantrum and try to fight Poch at the lane.

Why on earth would he?

 

[eddiebailey]

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That's the point where he changed for us, and for the fan's perception.

In most cases the fans perception seemed to have been established before a ball had been kicked.

 

[eddiebailey]

Everything is rosey in the Sherwood paradigm, until they get a good spank at the hands of a far superior team whilst playing over ambitious tactics or unconventional lineups/plays out of position.

Sherwood's philosophy was that you should play your own game against teams that you should beat but that against those that have better players than you do you need to vary your approach to set them a tactical challenge they are not anticipating. Such tactical experiments may or may not be succesful, on a case by case basis, but will almost certainly fail if you get a player sent off.

 

[225]

Sherwood's philosophy was that you should play your own game against teams that you should beat but that against those that have better players than you do you need to vary your approach to set them a tactical challenge they are not anticipating. Such tactical experiments may or may not be succesful, on a case by case basis, but will almost certainly fail if you get a player sent off.

City, Chelsea, West Ham, Liverpool and Arsenal all beat us convincingly under TS though, and we didn't play with 10 men in all those matches.

Like Mourinho says, some times you have to win ugly to win a game - each time we let the teams around us nick 3 points, they effectively gain 6. That's why we finished 6th.

The man also openly admitted he hadn't bothered researching those games - it's naivety, rather than a failed tactical battle.

 

[eddiebailey]

City, Chelsea, West Ham, Liverpool and Arsenal all beat us convincingly under TS though, and we didn't play with 10 men in all those matches.

Like Mourinho says, some times you have to win ugly to win a game - each time we let the teams around us nick 3 points, they effectively gain 6. That's why we finished 6th.

The man also openly admitted he hadn't bothered researching those games - it's naivety, rather than a failed tactical battle.

We did not vary our tactics in all those games either. In the games where we did vary our tactics and had sendings off I do not recall us doing too badly before that point.

I do not recall Tim saying he had not done his homework. It seems unlikely he would make radical changes for particular games if he had not.

 

[talkshowhost86]

Why on earth would he?

Because whatever else you can say about Sherwood there is one thing that is definitely true.

He is very very weird.

 

[eddiebailey]

Because whatever else you can say about Sherwood there is one thing that is definitely true.

He is very very weird.

He is rather to easily wound up, but given how restrained Poch is the scope for a set to would appear minimal. Frankly I should think he would struggle too much to follow what Poch is saying to be offended by it.

 

[225]

I do not recall Tim saying he had not done his homework. It seems unlikely he would make radical changes for particular games if he had not.

It was before a game like Chelsea, I think he was asked if he'd been studying them and he said something not too dissimilar to "nah, I don't bother with that, we just go out and do our thing and you can't be worrying too much about what they're doing". Can't find the video or quote at the mo

 

[eddiebailey]

It was before a game like Chelsea, I think he was asked if he'd been studying them and he said something not too dissimilar to "nah, I don't bother with that, we just go out and do our thing and you can't be worrying too much about what they're doing". Can't find the video or quote at the mo

If he did say that before the game he must have been deliberately attmpting to mislead, because he clearly did set up his team specifically for that game. Certainly on becoming manager he said that it was important to adopt a different approach when playing the top sides.