Where are our right backs?

[batigol]

We may or may not make it for top 4 but not having any proper right backs at the moment frankly points to some bad planning on the club's side.

We have two right backs out on loan and only have Corluka and one other recognized right back, who is 19, a last minute loan recall, and is somehow being overlooked by Harry, and not so co-incidentally, our two players who were played out of position today gave away two silly penalties.

I hope we do not live to regret the results of this match as we have done magnificently for the whole of this season but the right back situation bluntly points to mis-management on the club and Harry's side. Don't get me wrong, Harry has done great for us and I can only praise him for how far we have come but we should not have needed to play a left back and a midfielder in right back today when we have two proper right backs out on loan.

Move on to the next game but hopefully this situation never happens again.

 

[LSUY]

The right back situation is strange. I assumed Kaboul would be the back up to Corluka but Harry's said "he's not a right-back".

 

[maldini]

Quite sad really when we had Corluka, Hutton, Walker and Naughton at one time...

 

[Krafty]

Corluka is out injured, and Naughton and Walker are inexperienced. We cannot have 5 top class backups for each position! Kaboul had done a pretty good job as RB, Wilson can do a job, Walker will probably get a chance against Bolton and/or Burnley, so lets not have a load of knee jerk reactions because we lost away to the league leaders

 

[nicdic]

I don't think anyone will be regretting this result, most people counted this off as a loss.

 

[gibbs131]

We have been penny pinching a little lately. Huttons wages etc are no small matter for a player who wasn't really getting any games for us.

I think the new stadium funding is a major reason why the big earners like Keano, Hutton etc etc are all on loan and not on the bench.

What baffles me is the Kyles were not cheap, and we have had little to no value out of them this season.

 

[Tottenham_OZpur]

Corluka is out injured, and Naughton and Walker are inexperienced. We cannot have 5 top class backups for each position! Kaboul had done a pretty good job as RB, Wilson can do a job, Walker will probably get a chance against Bolton and/or Burnley, so lets not have a load of knee jerk reactions because we lost away to the league leaders

don't buy the inexperienced line myself, to get experience one must play and be given the chance is it not :shrug:

Ledley was inexperienced at one stage, indeed so was Messi :wink:

would much rather Walker at RB over BAE

You can't get experience by getting left out of the squad or sitting on the bench the whole game and thats what our younger players are seeing for themselves.

Harry would rather the square peg in a round hole over playing a recognised RB in Walker, it's not right

edit* believe me, I was not expecting a result and I have np with losing at OT, it's to be expected, but I do have a problem in regards to shooting ourselves in the foot like we did today

also if you are going to get praise for good things ( Chelski etc ), shouldn't you get criticised for errors like today, surely it works both ways, can't be all praise no stick, thats blind support

 

[Krafty]

don't buy the inexperienced line myself, to get experience one must play and be given the chance is it not :shrug:

Ledley was inexperienced at one stage, indeed so was Messi :wink:

would much rather Walker at RB over BAE

You can't get experience by getting left out of the squad or sitting on the bench the whole game and thats what our younger players are seeing for themselves.

Harry would rather the square peg in a round hole over playing a recognised RB in Walker, it's not right

edit* believe me, I was not expecting a result and I have np with losing at OT, it's to be expected, but I do have a problem in regards to shooting ourselves in the foot like we did today

also if you are going to get praise for good things ( Chelski etc ), shouldn't you get criticised for errors like today, surely it works both ways, can't be all praise no stick, thats blind support

Its against the champions, away from home!! I'm all for playing youngsters to help them progress, but not throwing them into the lions den. It could ruin them. What if Walker had been ripped apart? Do we say good on Harry, given that lad the experience of being torn to shreds?

I would have played Kaboul, someone who has some experience of being a right back, a lot more experience of playing in the Premiership, and is right footed, but even then its not guaranteed he wouldnt have made the mistake Benny did. Damned if you do, damned if you dont, but look at the Utd right back who is young but has a lot more experience than Walker, and he was culpable for our goal with a very basic error.

 

[batigol]

The point is that we were in a situation of abundance but get ourselves in the situation where it seems, we do not have anyone suitable to play in that position.

To play such a left footed player like Ekotto at right back was a poor choice and my question is still why we got ourselves in a situation where we have to play 2 players out of position when we have, as someone mentioned, 5 right backs at the club.

It is not the game that I am questioning but the situation that we place ourselves in that I am wondering about. Could it have been avoided? Do we see a team with solid depth like Chelsea or Manure loan out a potential first 11 like Hutton?

I am unsure if Hutton pushed for the move and people will say that this is easy for me to question in hindsight but the reason for depth in squad is for us to utilize it rather than loan them out and find ourselves inadequate in latter part of the season when you know that fatigue and injuries tend to set in.

Right or wrong, this season has been fantastic. I do not think that my question is knee-jerking in anyway though it must be admitted that I probably will not have brought it up if we had won since winning glosses over all mistakes but it is interesting that we have no proper right back to back up Corluka though we have several on our books.

 

[bubble07]

With about 20 pages of who we wanted to start I don't think I of us picked our one and only fit right back. Walker's confidence Must be shot to pieces

 

[Tottenham_OZpur]

Its against the champions, away from home!! I'm all for playing youngsters to help them progress, but not throwing them into the lions den. It could ruin them. What if Walker had been ripped apart? Do we say good on Harry, given that lad the experience of being torn to shreds?

I would have played Kaboul, someone who has some experience of being a right back, a lot more experience of playing in the Premiership, and is right footed, but even then its not guaranteed he wouldnt have made the mistake Benny did. Damned if you do, damned if you dont, but look at the Utd right back who is young but has a lot more experience than Walker, and he was culpable for our goal with a very basic error.

Take Rafeal, he is young and inexperienced, but he has a manager that is not afraid to play him, he has made mistakes this season, but thats how you learn, Ferguson still shows faith in him and thats for the title and CL, far bigger prizes.

I hate to say it as I dislike the man, but Wenger isn't afraid of playing a bunch of em, especially in the cup and some of them are now starters a year or so later. Had he taken the same approach Harry does and you would like, they would never be starters right now, they would never have been given the chance.

Take Rose against the Arse, had he not got the chance, he wouldn't have scored that cracker, I just don't have much faith in regards to youngsters getting a chance under Harry, even Carling Cup games at home against lower league teams he doesn't play em, if they don't play in those games, when will they ever play.

I actually think with playing for a CL place, it is working against the youngsters, if say we were a midtable team, I am sure Harry would play em more. At the spammers he wasn't afraid to bring em through, but they had nothing to play for.

As it happens, King would have been the only change I would have made, but Walker would have been my next choice after Kaboul, BAE being last resort

 

[rsmith]

Don't worry, we'll re-sign chimbonda in the summer

 

[Tottenham_OZpur]

Don't worry, we'll re-sign chimbonda in the summer

lol

speaking of RB's, Hutton got a straight red, though the skysport text dude makes it seem that it should have been the other way around

 

[yawa]

lol

speaking of RB's, Hutton got a straight red, though the skysport text dude makes it seem that it should have been the other way around

Both got straight reds for the incident.

 

[Samson]

We have been penny pinching a little lately. Huttons wages etc are no small matter for a player who wasn't really getting any games for us.

I think the new stadium funding is a major reason why the big earners like Keano, Hutton etc etc are all on loan and not on the bench.

What baffles me is the Kyles were not cheap, and we have had little to no value out of them this season.

We're losing a lot of money. Someone said this week that the deal for Keane was they pay his 68k a week and a 2 million loan fee. If Dos Santos and Hutton net similar but smaller figures, it will cover the losses.

Didn't see the game but we won't win up at Old Trafford with Assou-Ekotto at right-back.

 

[archiewasking]

We're losing a lot of money. Someone said this week that the deal for Keane was they pay his 68k a week and a 2 million loan fee. If Dos Santos and Hutton net similar but smaller figures, it will cover the losses.

Didn't see the game but we won't win up at Old Trafford with Assou-Ekotto at right-back.

Is that right??? Are we really losing a lot of money??? That would worry me far more than losing an expected 3 three points at St Alex United.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

If the championship season ends next week will we have Naughton back for the last couple of games ?

 

[riversmonkey]

Ekotto played at right back because Kaboul was getting skinned time after time by Zhirkov in the last game. A nimbler, pacier left footed Full Back was better against United's tricky wingers than a part-time cumbersome right back. Unfortunately Ekotto gave away a penalty, and generally speaking had a bit of a mare.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

I'm struggling to remember Kaboul getting constantly "skinned" by Zhirkov.

I'm no fan of playing a CB at RB but even less of playing a massively left footed LB (who worries me at LB) as a RB at Old Trafford of all places.

 

[DC_Boy]

terrible decision by harry to play BAE at RB

terrible decision by him to loan out naughton again

harry's done a good job overall - and if we get 4th place he's done a great job - fine margins - he just fell over one of them