Which Spurs players tried to skip England duty?

[Mr Pink]

That doesn't mean it isn't true.

I didn't guess that he was lying...

What's he attempting to achieve by saying it? What's it going to change?

 

[Misfit]

It's not whether H is lying or not, to say it about players at a specific club is throwing people under the bus. Just say that he personally knows it happens etc. Don't get into any specifics when you're dragging other people into a public statement you're making.

Keep putting yourself out there in the public by all means, H. You crave the spotlight like a fat man craves cake. Fair enough. Don't bloody well use others to do it though.

 

[Stavrogin]

I'm surprised by the reaction this is getting tbh. I thought players withdrawing or not wanting to play was a pretty common thing. Didn't Carrick refuse his call up after not being picked for the 2010 WC? Also Chris Sutton refused to play for the B team under Hoddle. Probably loads of cases.

People are missing the context by seizing on it now. Redknapp had been making the point that the england set-up was not very pleasant for most players (those outside the top clubs). It was non-meritocratic and cliquey. The atmosphere generated by the press and amongst fans was bad etc.

It was part of a soft pitch for the job, I guess.

The reaction of Gerrard and Hodgson shouldn't be surprising, they're trying to get people to focus on something else other than their failure. But the idea that they can 'out' someone for not wanting to play for england is simply bonkers and pretty vile.

Redknapp may have put someone in the cross hairs of these desperate morons but he was trying to make a point, to illuminate a problem that needed to be addressed. There's nothing to be gained by identifying and castigating his 'sources', but this behavior is pretty common...

 

[Misfit]

I didn't guess that he was lying...

What's he attempting to achieve by saying it? What's it going to change?

Well, and I admit to falling into this very trap right here and now, we're talking about him again aren't we? I haven't thought about him for weeks tbh. Mission accomplished, by whatever means.

 

[Misfit]

People are missing the context by seizing on it now. Redknapp had been making the point that the england set-up was not very pleasant for most players (those outside the top clubs). It was non-meritocratic and cliquey. The atmosphere generated by the press and amongst fans was bad etc.

It was part of a soft pitch for the job, I guess.

The reaction of Gerrard and Hodgson shouldn't be surprising, they're trying to get people to focus on something else other than their failure. But the idea that they can 'out' someone for not wanting to play for england is simply bonkers and pretty vile.

Redknapp may have put someone in the cross hairs of these desperate morons but he was trying to make a point, to illuminate a problem that needed to be addressed. There's nothing to be gained by identifying and castigating his 'sources', but this behavior is pretty common...

No denying your general point and tbh you've taken his comments in a way that is very fair-minded. I agree with you in general. His big mistake was getting into any specifics or not using already publically-known examples instead. Whatever his motivation, be it a lack of tact or something else, it was a stupid thing to say.

The English meeja live for witch-hunts and H presented them with a perfect opportunity. H must be savvy enough to realise they can easily turn their sights on him though if the answers they scweeeam sceeeam for aren't forthcoming though. Hang, draw and quarter the messenger instead, so to speak. It might backfire.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

What makes me think Harry is lying is mainly that he is a known gobshite and consistently contradicts himself. But also during his time with Spurs our England players were on the fringes, so would have needed to play to cement their place in the squad or were young players desperate for caps. Players like Dawson, Defoe, Bent, Hudd, Lennon, Parker were never mainstays in the England squad so dropping out would have damaged their claims for regular starting places in the team. Where as someone like Walker was only just breaking into the squad so I really doubt he would pull out unless necessary.

Anyone who doesn't think Harry would just chat shit to fulfill his need to be in the papers really wasn't paying attention when he was our manager

 

[jurgen]

Harry didn't fancy turning up for Spurs when he thought England were going to call him up..

 

[arunspurs]

Walker.

Surely not Walker;

Walker made his Full England debut against Sweden, 24 hours before his son was born. In fact he was MOM in that.
game.

He loses his mind at times , but no way I will agree he is less committed.

 

[weststandvoice]

Surely not Walker;

Walker made his Full England debut against Sweden, 24 hours before his son was born. In fact he was MOM in that.
game.

He loses his mind at times , but no way I will agree he is less committed.

Just trying to think of someone who had a kid.

 

[Chinaspur]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...hame-Spurs-stars-who-turned-down-England.html

“I tell you what, I’d be interested to find out who those players are,” said Gerrard, who insisted that every member of the England squad that has already been eliminated from the World Cup has been fully committed to the cause. “If Harry is making a comment like that, he should name them and embarrass them. No one in this group wants to go home. No one wants to go home.

“Should Harry not name them? If it’s the case, it’s disgusting. For me, if a player doesn’t want to be [with England], he doesn’t deserve to be here at a World Cup. The comment is a comment, like ‘them’. ‘They’ didn’t want to play for England. Who? Name them. Is it Aaron Lennon, Kyle Walker, Andros Townsend? I don’t know who he means. Five years ago? Ten years ago?”


Fucking Harry Redknapp, nice of you to start a witch hunt.

(Apologies if already posted...)

I'm not a big fan of Gerrard randomly naming players - it automatically associates them more closely with this. Not a captain's best moment. AFAIK only Walker of those three has a kid, but it seems hugely unlikely to be him.

 

[TheVoiceofReason]

I reckon there's only one player that did this: Lennon, and Harry's just said 2 or 3 to emphasise his point, and now his lie has backfired.

 

[Chinaspur]

I reckon there's only one player that did this: Lennon, and Harry's just said 2 or 3 to emphasise his point, and now his lie has backfired.

Does Lennon have a kid?

 

[allatsea]

Shameful thing for Harry to say but then he never has known when to shut up. So glad he is no longer at Spurs.

 

[weststandvoice]

I reckon there's only one player that did this: Lennon, and Harry's just said 2 or 3 to emphasise his point, and now his lie has backfired.

This was my immediate thought.

 

[Mustard]

I'm sure Crouch has a baby girl.

I hope this stays on the agenda I really want to hear him apologise. Although the media and his mates, particularly thicko Hartson are already saying he has been misunderstood! Lol. You couldn't make it up.

He must still be smarting that he wasn't asked to be a pundit at the WC.

 

[newbie]

I know we as fans don't know the players personally but we do get a good impression of their passion and desire for the game.

Out of all those players I can't fathom 2-3 that would do that and by the sounds of how O'l Candleface put it on a few occasions.

Lennon possibly. No real evidence for that assumption.

My guess is that Harry is embellishing a single incident. Because he's a attention seeking knobhead.

Your right I always thought Luke shaw was a nice boy but he comes across as a tosser in the sun today. When your in the lime light you should keep your head down I have no idea what any of them are really like and what I would have been like in there shoes.

 

[Real_madyidd]

Ryan Giggs used to do this all of the time, and he is adored by twats.

 

[HotspurFC1950]

It won't be only Spurs players.

 

[TheVoiceofReason]

I remember somebody on this forum a while back saying he ran into Lennon in a bar in Leeds and he told him he didn't mind not being picked for England, as he didn't enjoy it.

 

[punky]

I didn't guess that he was lying...

What's he attempting to achieve by saying it? What's it going to change?

I don't know why said it now. I don't think he has any Machiavellian plan to influence national team. He had said similar stuff before and no one really cared but I guess now when you have a hodge-podge team that can't even get out of the groups, people are taking more notice.


If it makes players more cautious about trying to dodge international duty then a bigger pool of players to choose from and we'll be stronger. Although I don't think it will make a great deal of surrender whilst Hodgson is manager