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Who would you replace Avb with if you had the chance?

guy

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Fark I've just realised Hiddink is out of a job at the moment. Him as a fill-in till the end of the season would be amazing. Knows the league, will get respected by the players and the media, speaks english, etc etc

74% win record when he filled in at Chelski

Go get him Dan
 

parklane yid

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Klinsmann for me as he adapts a fast pace attacking team, he would prob keep freund as number two, and is a big name to please our new boys, plus he is our legend, BUT I do like AVB but I starting to worry now and am looking a little faith
 

parklane yid

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Fark I've just realised Hiddink is out of a job at the moment. Him as a fill-in till the end of the season would be amazing. Knows the league, will get respected by the players and the media, speaks english, etc etc

74% win record when he filled in at Chelski

Go get him Dan

What and become a chelscum mark two, there treat managers appauling, I'd rather be beaten 6-0 than be anything like that laughable club
 

guy

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I didn't mean be like chelscum, I meant get him in short term, then try to convince him to stay on next season (which I doubt he'd do). Everyone's a winner (except AVB)
 

mrlilywhite

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That is not the problem, the problem is we are not playing football at all. The decision making is awful, we are far to narrow and width is not existant.

Soldado is an awesome striker, but he needs to get the ball in the box where he can do his damage. Match of the day just summed it nicely. We are as wide as a young virgins fanny and devoid of any creativity, pressure and speed.

Inverted wingers are not working and we are simply not making the right balls. Dembele too for all his mazey runs just fails to release the ball, time and time again.

Our players are idiots and having 1, 2 or 3 up front wont make a difference as they will never get the ball. This is where AVB has to make the changes. He needs to stop being a stubborn little git and learn the game, our game. If he doesn't, he is fucked, we are fucked and I can see mass exodus at the end of the season. We have great bunch of players that we brought in the summer and completely failing to play them to their strengths and they will want to leave us if things don't start happening soon.

I am really worried for us right now, AVB needs to get us attacking and stop worrying about possession and losing. We can all handle a loss if the players can walk off that pitch with their heads held high.

So many positives at the club, but it is all being wasted because of stubbornness and an unwillingness to change what clearly isn't working.

Is that what they said? Bloody hell :eek:, Still guess it was after the 9pm watershed :D
 

Kendall

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I'm not up to speed on foreign managers as I don't watch too much european football outside of the CL/top european matches like el clasico and the Dortmund/Bayern game this weekend so I genuinely don't know and I think it's difficult to reall quantify success.

Please, please please don't hire someone on the back of them winning the Europa League again though, that has worked out shite twice.
 

WiganSpur

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Fark I've just realised Hiddink is out of a job at the moment. Him as a fill-in till the end of the season would be amazing. Knows the league, will get respected by the players and the media, speaks english, etc etc

74% win record when he filled in at Chelski

Go get him Dan
Definitely the best option until a good long-term option would be available. A manager of his reputation would get great respect from the players as well.
 

CowInAComa

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I'm not up to speed on foreign managers as I don't watch too much european football outside of the CL/top european matches like el clasico and the Dortmund/Bayern game this weekend so I genuinely don't know and I think it's difficult to reall quantify success.

Please, please please don't hire someone on the back of them winning. If the Europa League again though, that has worked out shite twice.
Isnt Europa or its equivalent what formed the basis of Steve McLarens reputation?
 

AnotherSpursFan

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Roberto Martinez,
Because the man knows how to play flowing football. I've been supporting Spurs since Ginola's time and have never seen us with a structured attacking style. I'ts pretty much hit and miss, on good days, the team play well, most of the time. Since Graham, Hoddle, Satini, Jol, REdknapp, and now AVB. it's always up to individual brilliance to get us out of jail.


The team excels at passing backward and sidewards for 20 years and nothing else. All this talk about flairs, flowing attacking football, as a supporter who watches almost every game (from TV not live) i know this is all media hype. Spurs tradition is all about that but...
THe reality is: For 20 years we don't have a gameplan for! We NEED A GAMEPLAN! I'm very curious what has been going on in the training ground.
 

Francis Gibbs

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If AVB does get sacked

Diego Simeone - He wants to come to the PL and was thinking about Chelsea but they didnt even sniff at him. Would he come? Worth asking but he is in a title fight and imo is this season's dortmund in the CL. They are in the CL hunt.

Poccetino - Been very impressed and he had a bit of press hate but he has turned around especially with his use of the Southampton youth team.

De Boer - Worked with 1 or 2 of our players and has philosophy that he will stamp on the club

Simeone would be my choice but why in hell he would come to us is beyond me ...
 

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Isnt Europa or its equivalent what formed the basis of Steve McLarens reputation?
Partily but he was also Fergies assistant and he spoke highly of him so did the players, I think it's fantastic the run he had with a small club in Europe. The best we've done in recent years is the quarter finals.
 

Mullers

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I'm not up to speed on foreign managers as I don't watch too much european football outside of the CL/top european matches like el clasico and the Dortmund/Bayern game this weekend so I genuinely don't know and I think it's difficult to reall quantify success.

Please, please please don't hire someone on the back of them winning the Europa League again though, that has worked out shite twice.
If winning a European trophy isn't a good enough criteria for giving someone a job, I don't know what is.
 

pablo73

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Regardless of who any of us would want to replace AVB, Daniel Levy is going to be the man tasked with that particular job. Given his track record with choosing managers, that scares the shit out of me.
 

CowInAComa

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Regardless of who any of us would want to replace AVB, Daniel Levy is going to be the man tasked with that particular job. Given his track record with choosing managers, that scares the shit out of me.

And there is the rub. Its fuck all to do with not giving anyone enough time, its all about an inability to pick a decent one in the first place.
 

Archibald&Crooks

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which of our recent managers would you like to have seen still be our manager today?
I couldn't give a short sharp shit. You choose for me.
And there is the rub. Its fuck all to do with not giving anyone enough time
So any manager should hit the ground running, fit in with his predecessors regime, players and ethos and the transition is a seamless one. You could go from one manager to the other without any effect at all. And as for picking the right one, we might well have him, or have had him, but we'll never know will we? because as soon as the shit hits the fan, the minute it doesn't go as well as we want, the poor sods up the road. Fuck all to do with time my great big hairy pimply arse.
 

CowInAComa

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I couldn't give a short sharp shit. You choose for me.

So any manager should hit the ground running, fit in with his predecessors regime, players and ethos and the transition is a seamless one. You could go from one manager to the other without any effect at all. And as for picking the right one, we might well have him, or have had him, but we'll never know will we? because as soon as the shit hits the fan, the minute it doesn't go as well as we want, the poor sods up the road. Fuck all to do with time my great big hairy pimply arse.

None of our previous managers have achieved anything of note since leaving us. So I reckon we can have a decent stab at guessing how much we would have achieved with them had they remained in charge. I wasnt sad to see Ramos, Jol, Santini, Gross, Graham go when they did, and couldnt think of anything worse than 5-10 years of one them in charge of the club.

Redknapp shot himself in the foot to a degree, with england and the like.

But when does 18 months with no progress and arguably a serious argument for regression stop becoming a 'bad patch' and actually just a realistic representation of the abilities of the manager?

Its entirely to do with picking the right manager.
 

dudu

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None of our previous managers have achieved anything of note since leaving us. So I reckon we can have a decent stab at guessing how much we would have achieved with them had they remained in charge. I wasnt sad to see Ramos, Jol, Santini, Gross, Graham go when they did, and couldnt think of anything worse than 5-10 years of one them in charge of the club.

Redknapp shot himself in the foot to a degree, with england and the like.

But when does 18 months with no progress and arguably a serious argument for regression stop becoming a 'bad patch' and actually just a realistic representation of the abilities of the manager?

Its entirely to do with picking the right manager.

Didnt two of the managers you mentioned win us our last two trophies?

I am honestly honestly not supporting any notion that either of them should have stayed, im just interested to know why you werent that sad to them them go when apparently they were the right managers to actually bring us some tangible success.
 

CowInAComa

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Didnt two of the managers you mentioned win us our last two trophies?

I am honestly honestly not supporting any notion that either of them should have stayed, im just interested to know why you werent that sad to them them go when apparently they were the right managers to actually bring us some tangible success.

keep Ramos? Are you crazy.

Sacking him was 100% the only thing to do. I dont give a toss if he won the carling cup. We were going down in flames. That wasnt progress.

I genuinely dont think we have had much choice with our recent managers and their sackings, they werent just going through tricky patches they were absolutely all over the place.

success will be when we find a manager who can actually mould one of our squads into at the least the sum of its parts. Its a feat that we can get it wrong so consistently.
 
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