Who's our best Leftback?

[Flashspur]

me thinks the Opening Poster wears dark glasses and has a white cane, er... apologies to blind people

 

[Flashspur]

Danny Rose all day for me and I think the little barrel chested spitfire is going to get even better

 

[Shadydan]

me thinks the Opening Poster wears dark glasses and has a white cane, er... apologies to blind people

Well to be fair if this question was asked at the beginning of the season then you'd see very different results.

Guess it just sums up the fickle nature of your average football fan.

 

[yusrisafri]

Personally I'd like an upgrade on both of them. Rose is far better than Davies going forward but Davies for the most part is more secure at the back. Is that Real Madrid fullback still for sale Concentrao ?

Yeah that guy's good. I like his concentration level

 

[Jimmypearce7]

Danny has done v well this season. I think having Ben Davies there has helped him. Danny is very good when at his best, fresh and fit but as we saw last season, if he plays too many games or things start going badly, he can get ragged. Having Davies there to bring in to ensure he doesn't have to play every game has made a big difference.
Davies has looked sluggish at times but he has some good attributes, particularly his passing and crossing, which is v good and makes up for his not being able to tear down the wing. Hopefully he will discover his best form too and we can be confident they can both play at the level we require.

 

[neptunes]

definitely Danny v manure

 

[yusrisafri]

Davies is to Rose what Naughton was to Walker.

Walker needs a rocket up his arse but there's no real danger of him losing his spot now. So he gets complacent and takes risks knowing well his place is safe. It was different when Naughton was around.

 

[Grey Fox]

I can not believe some of the posts on here Rose is terrible, granted he has improved a bit this season but not a great deal. He doesn't have a defenders brain the first thing I look for when we concede a goal is where is Rose and 9 times out of 10 he is closer to the half way line than the penalty box and usually ambling back.
He has no real pace and gives away to many stupid free kicks, usually because his positioning is awful and ends up having to push the opposition over to try and win the ball.

Davies is not great either, but his positioning is generally better as is his distribution.
Next time we play with Rose just watch how many times he is gone missing when the opposition attack. We need a first class left back above every other position in m y humble opion

 

[Gbspurs]

You can only base on what we have seen and there is no way Ben Davies has been better than Danny Rose.

I think the best thing for us is we don't look dramatically worse when Davies comes in which is good for rotation and squad depth.

More than happy to let them battle it out next season.

 

[Gbspurs]

He won't get quicker as he gets older - it's a pretty essential component for a full back in a team that relies on its full backs getting forward. We bought Yedlin for the sole reason and also decided to convert Rose from a winger to a full back because of his pace.

I'll never get peoples obsession with "pace" over every other attribute.

Someone in another thread rightly said the 2 best RB's in the league are Ivanovic and Zabaleta. Neither are quick but they are intelligent, position themselves well and are difficult to get past.

 

[Blake Griffin]

i like both. i like rose more. i dislike those saying we need to sign another left back but when asked for suggestions can't come up with anything.

 

[Good Doctor M]

Danny Rose has completely won me over.

If we cast our minds back, the huge majority, (I would say at least 90% of the people on here), myself included, thought he wasn't up to playing in our side, this time last year.

For me, he's been one of the revelations of the season behind Kane and Mason. He's prone to mistake obviously, but what young full back isn't?

He has a good mentality for the premier league and he will get better and better. Could quite easily turn into an Evra as he gets older as long as he can keep toeing that fine line between aggression and straight up anger.

 

[0-Tibsy-0]

I think both have good natural ability in different parts of their game, Rose has the athleticism and a bit of pace/power. Davies has good distribution and is comfortable on the ball.

Both are also let down by their positioning on occasion, probably more so Rose. Rose is pretty useless when it comes to crossing/picking out a man normally (although a peach of cross against Swansea), but does get in to good attacking positions. Davies gets caught flat footed against a direct winger a bit too often.

It's entirely subjective, but I would say Davies is probably the more 'intelligent' footballer but that isnt very quantifiable, and is not something I can argue for particularly. But Rose is more effective in this high energy system at the moment.

Rose has played very well in parts this season, better than many of you would have expected given the ridiculous comments when he renewed his contract. Davies has to be a bit more adventurous to really effect the team when he plays.

Rose is in better form at the moment, which is what people are judging him on and the reason that his vote is so high- I personally don't think it is as clear cut as the poll indicates.

 

[L-man]

I'll never get peoples obsession with "pace" over every other attribute.

You don't win on FIFA with Ben Davies, mate

 

[Shanks]

Both offer different attributes, and that is key to the squad.

Rose - offers more in attack, so when we play these better teams with pacey attacks, Rose often gets the nod, because he is part of the plan to push up high, press high and hit them on the attack quickly, thus suppressing the quick opposition to utilising their advantages to, well, there advantage.

Where as Davies, offers more defensive stability, so a typical fan would expect us to be tighter at the back against the better teams, Poch seems to go with the opposite - more defensive stability for the more physical of games, where we may be pegged with counter attacking play.

But overall, it's a great option to have two decent left backs, hopefulyl Yedlin will provide the same for the right hand side too.

 

[TottenhamMattSpur]

I don't get why people dismiss far players when they actually use it to their advantage.
People regularly say that if Kyle Walker wasn't fast he'd be shit.
That's possibly true. Its like saying if Lloris couldn't catch football's he'd be shit or if Kane couldn't shoot he'd be shit.
The fact is, walker IS fast and he regularly uses that exceptional speed to provide attacking threat on the wing AND get back in position to defend at right back.
Danny Rose is starting to balance that out on the left. With both of them offering it then it places less burden on one meaning neither is likely to burn out and make mistakes*

*Fuck knows what walker was thinking with that back header to Lloris Saturday.

 

[TEESSIDE1]

Rose last season was atrocious. This season he started very well but at times he's reverted back into his old ways of not tracking back, diving into tackles due to poor judgement or losing his head. Overall he's been much better this season but Rose as per the rest of the defence tend to see a fatal conclusion to their mistakes. At the top level we can't afford to give away goals. Take Lloris out of the equation, our defence as individuals and as a unit simply isn't good enough at the moment.

 

[Kendall]

Considering we play with wide players who cut in, it is absolutely vital that the delivery from wide positions (full backs) is the best it can be. For me, that's why Davies has to play more consistently.

He's had a couple of poor performances, but I put that down to A, him being young and B, him being in and out of the side and the added pressure it brings when he does play.

Give him a run and make him first choice and he will be a quality left back for us.

 

[Kendall]

The fact is, walker IS fast and he regularly uses that exceptional speed to provide attacking threat on the wing .

I think this is debatable. His pace does often get us out of trouble at the back (there was a particular effort that was snuffed out that the weekend after a feeble ball over the top managed to take our CBs out), but I'd question whether Walker's pace does provide an attacking threat. Rarely do we see Walker get to the byline and whip anything like a decent cross in, or pick out a man in the box. He's a hit and hoper.

 

[mpickard2087]

Considering we play with wide players who cut in, it is absolutely vital that the delivery from wide positions (full backs) is the best it can be. For me, that's why Davies has to play more consistently.

He's had a couple of poor performances, but I put that down to A, him being young and B, him being in and out of the side and the added pressure it brings when he does play.

Give him a run and make him first choice and he will be a quality left back for us.

Currently though I think Davies is what BAE was... A 'middle third' left back. He's comfortable on the ball and has good technique but he just holds his area around the halfway line and rarely ventures from it. Countless times in games where you are expecting him to be up on the overlap and he is still sat back. I suspect its down to growing up at Swansea and probably having his zone to be in and be available for the next bout of recycling possession, and so he rarely moves from it. He might have good intelligence, vision, and be able to pick out a cross, but that isn't going to be used if he doesn't start getting higher up the pitch.

I want to see adventurous play from the fullbacks. To be honest I can live with them being a bit suspect defensively, which both of them are. I want to see them getting to the byline constantly and driving down the left flank, stealing in at the far post, or popping up in the penalty area all of a sudden. At the moment only one of them looks like doing this.