Why don’t defenders lift up the goalkeepers when defending a corner?

[Nerine]

I feel like this is an utterly stupid or interesting question. (Depending on which way you choose to look at it)

But I just watched the England game where Sczeszczczszny (sp?) got fouled from a corner and it got me to thinking...

Regardless of how ineffective or brilliant it might be, is there anything in the rules that would prevent a pair of defenders literally lifting up the goalkeeper to be able to more easily claim a lofted in corner kick?

(Similar to rugby when a throw in or line out whatever it’s called is taken).

I then got to thinking if there are rules that state this type of thing isn’t allowed, because you could do some pretty creative things leveraging other players on your team for some kind of advantage.
I’ve often wondered for instance whether you could literally line up 11 of your players on the goal line to create an actual wall in front of goal in certain situations (I’m sure that has actually been done before when defending an indirect free kick in the penalty area conceded from a back pass). The “draught excluder” is one that seems to be becoming more popular etc.

Non-standard play or thinking outside of the box if you like.

 

[rez9000]

I feel like this is an utterly stupid or interesting question. (Depending on which way you choose to look at it)

But I just watched the England game where Sczeszczczszny (sp?) got fouled from a corner and it got me to thinking...

Regardless of how ineffective or brilliant it might be, is there anything in the rules that would prevent a pair of defenders literally lifting up the goalkeeper to be able to more easily claim a lofted in corner kick?

(Similar to rugby when a throw in or line out whatever it’s called is taken).

I then got to thinking if there are rules that state this type of thing isn’t allowed, because you could do some pretty creative things leveraging other players on your team for some kind of advantage.
I’ve often wondered for instance whether you could literally line up 11 of your players on the goal line to create an actual wall in front of goal in certain situations (I’m sure that has actually been done before when defending an indirect free kick in the penalty area conceded from a back pass). The “draught excluder” is one that seems to be becoming more popular etc.

Non-standard play or thinking outside of the box if you like.

How shitted up would you be if you saw someone do that this weekend in the PL?

Seriously, I would imagine there's no rule, but wouldn't you be rather constraining the movement of the goalie laterally as well as the two defenders - I'd think that would be a good reason for not doing it, even if the rules allowed. Interesting thought experiment, though.

 

[Shadydan]

I feel like this is an utterly stupid or interesting question. (Depending on which way you choose to look at it)

But I just watched the England game where Sczeszczczszny (sp?) got fouled from a corner and it got me to thinking...

Regardless of how ineffective or brilliant it might be, is there anything in the rules that would prevent a pair of defenders literally lifting up the goalkeeper to be able to more easily claim a lofted in corner kick?

(Similar to rugby when a throw in or line out whatever it’s called is taken).

I then got to thinking if there are rules that state this type of thing isn’t allowed, because you could do some pretty creative things leveraging other players on your team for some kind of advantage.
I’ve often wondered for instance whether you could literally line up 11 of your players on the goal line to create an actual wall in front of goal in certain situations (I’m sure that has actually been done before when defending an indirect free kick in the penalty area conceded from a back pass). The “draught excluder” is one that seems to be becoming more popular etc.

Non-standard play or thinking outside of the box if you like.

Attackers should be able to line up in the box like this then:

 

[rez9000]

Attackers should be able to line up in the box like this then:

Why has the guy in the greenish jacket got a wall for a head?

 

[Bobby TwoShots]

I feel like this is an utterly stupid or interesting question. (Depending on which way you choose to look at it)

But I just watched the England game where Sczeszczczszny (sp?) got fouled from a corner and it got me to thinking...

Regardless of how ineffective or brilliant it might be, is there anything in the rules that would prevent a pair of defenders literally lifting up the goalkeeper to be able to more easily claim a lofted in corner kick?

(Similar to rugby when a throw in or line out whatever it’s called is taken).

I then got to thinking if there are rules that state this type of thing isn’t allowed, because you could do some pretty creative things leveraging other players on your team for some kind of advantage.
I’ve often wondered for instance whether you could literally line up 11 of your players on the goal line to create an actual wall in front of goal in certain situations (I’m sure that has actually been done before when defending an indirect free kick in the penalty area conceded from a back pass). The “draught excluder” is one that seems to be becoming more popular etc.

Non-standard play or thinking outside of the box if you like.

Jose?

 

[slartibartfast]

Think you've inadvertently invented a new sport.
Kind of Football meets Its A Knockout lol.

 

[Nerine]

How shitted up would you be if you saw someone do that this weekend in the PL?

Seriously, I would imagine there's no rule, but wouldn't you be rather constraining the movement of the goalie laterally as well as the two defenders - I'd think that would be a good reason for not doing it, even if the rules allowed. Interesting thought experiment, though.

Yes. I’d considered that the GKs movement would be impeded quite a lot hence me saying ineffective or brilliant, but even so, as you say, I thought it was potentially an interesting conversation.

You’d require gymnast levels of balance and technique etc, but what’s to stop a striker running and using another players bent leg (ignore the studs for this example) as a step to get a higher leap when attacking the ball?

My main thought would be that everything happens too quickly to able to orchestrate something like this in general play but from set pieces you could probably make it work.

You could slingshot players by the arm to allow them to gain an acceleration advantage in certain situations also.

 

[Nerine]

Attackers should be able to line up in the box like this then:

That’s exactly the kind of thing I’m talking about. Why not?!

 

[Col_M]

You could build an impenetrable wall for freekicks too although they'd just play around you.

 

[slartibartfast]

Why stop there?
Why not.make a pyramid with one of those ball freestylers on top so he can balance the ball on his head and simply walk it up to the goal and score!
Simplez

 

[slartibartfast]

Be more entertaining than what we've been watching to be fair lol.

 

[Nerine]

Why couldn’t you have one player dribble the ball and 6-7 other players form a circle around him with their arms linked?
Even better get the circle of players to crouch a bit so the arms are at about waist height. Opposition players wouldn’t really be able to get under or over without fouling.
Kind of like the blockers in American “Football”.

 

[Nerine]

How about trap the ball between your calf and back of the thigh and hop towards the goal? No one would be able to dispossess you without fouling.

 

[Nerine]

Hmmm.
Seems like a lot of these just come under unsporting behaviour or obstruction...

 

[hughy]

Why couldn’t you have one player dribble the ball and 6-7 other players form a circle around him with their arms linked?
Even better get the circle of players to crouch a bit so the arms are at about waist height. Opposition players wouldn’t really be able to get under or over without fouling.
Kind of like the blockers in American “Football”.

I've genuinely thought about this when players "take the ball to the corner" when wasting time. If you had one smaller player (let's say Lucas) facing the corner flag with the ball, and two bigger players (let's say Kane and Sissoko) facing him but shielding him about 2 ft away it would be nearly impossible for anyone to get to him.

Again it might come under obstruction or unsporting behaviour but it could easily waste 90 seconds.

 

[cider spurs]

@Nerine

What is this you bring me ??
Post thread is not a command.

1h 46m premature. April foosl surely.
As luck would have it, I'm a fool every day.

On a closing note, I can't get the image of our players forming a pyramid akin to the White helmets motorcycle display team to defend free kicks.

I'm off to eat the grandchildren's Easter eggs, although I might have got this Easter egg hunt thingy wrong.

 

[Trix]

1/ it's dangerous
2/ what happens when the ball is played away from the keeper and you've got half your back line stood round the keeper waiting to give him a bunk up.

3/ League starts again this weekend guys. Let's try and hold down the sanity levels till then eh.

 

[Trix]

@Nerine

What is this you bring me ??
Post thread is not a command.

1h 46m premature. April foosl surely.
As luck would have it, I'm a fool every day.

On a closing note, I can't get the image of our players forming a pyramid akin to the White helmets motorcycle display team to defend free kicks.

I'm off to eat the grandchildren's Easter eggs, although I might have got this Easter egg hunt thingy wrong.

When I first read the OP my innitial thought was April fool's, then I looked at the time stamp of the post and remembered where I was. Let's be honest this place is chocablock full of nutters.

 

[VegasII]

 

[cider spurs]

When I first read the OP my innitial thought was April fool's, then I looked at the time stamp of the post and remembered where I was. Let's be honest this place is chocablock full of nutters.

I'd like to think lockdown has something to do with it...

But I'm not so sure.