World Cup Discussion Thread - Day 3 (16 June)

[Phomesy]

He didn't "play the ball", he barely grazed it, so much so that multiple camera angles and slow motion still didn't show it clearly.

Then the follow through caught the player and stopped him shooting.

I feel that the onus should be on the defender to make a clear and decisive challenge and if they dont then the penalty is the right decision.

So only clear decisive challenges count these days? Rightio then...

 

[Deleted member 27855]

VAR should never be used like that. I don't think it was a pen but that's not the point. It needs to be clear and obvious for the call on the field to be overturned. That wasn't clear at all. Horrible.

 

[worcestersauce]

He didn't "play the ball", he barely grazed it, so much so that multiple camera angles and slow motion still didn't show it clearly.

Then the follow through caught the player and stopped him shooting.

I feel that the onus should be on the defender to make a clear and decisive challenge and if they dont then the penalty is the right decision.

So he did play it then.

 

[Bobbins]

I wish Lawro would stfu saying the first one wasn’t a penalty just because he called it wrong and doesn’t want to admit he got it wrong.

Stop trying to re-write history you thatched-roof haired prick!

Now having a go at Pavard who is a very decent player.

What a miserable twat.

 

[Streetspur77]

Of course it matters.

It literally doesn’t

Think of it as two different phases, the first tackle where he got touched the ball, but then after that greizmann still had the ball so when the follow though (think of it as a second tackle) comes in he’s been fouled

 

[Deleted member 29446]

The last time Lloris saved a penalty was the PES 2019 trailer.

Haha so true never saving a pen!

 

[mpickard2087]

My issue mainly is that on that VAR decision only select views were available. I think the behind the goal angle gave the best picture of what happened, and it wasn't available. Thinking of future decisions, what's the point of using it but not having all camera angles (and potentially better ones of an incident) available to be viewed? Just doesn't seem logical.

 

[Coyboy]

Krul.

Is he or did he just have that good shootout in the last World Cup?

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Don't 100% agree with this, but I can see your point. I'm not sure the defender can avoid the "subsequent foul" as he's already committed to the initial successful tackle.

You might be right, but it's fucking harsh if that's the case.

It’s not harsh if he catches him, intentional or not. And he clearly did.

 

[yankspurs]

And the Lloros hate has spilled over into here I see. Ugh

 

[Gb160]

It doesn't matter when he doesn't win the ball and then brings the player down.

He made contact with the ball, that's all that matters.(as long as it wasnt reckless)
Lawro knows the score.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

My issue mainly is that on that VAR decision only select views were available. I think the behind the goal angle gave the best picture of what happened, and it wasn't available. Thinking of future decisions, what's the point of using it but not having all camera angles (and potentially better ones of an incident) available to be viewed? Just doesn't seem logical.

They showed a great close up side angle which clearly showed him catching Greizman’s trailing ankle/foot?

 

[King of Otters]

Rylan coming on.

 

[Gbspurs]

So only clear decisive challenges count these days? Rightio then...

I think if it can't be determined that a challenge was made with the naked eye, multiple cameras and slow motion with 6 professional referees then it wasnt a challenge.

 

[Phomesy]

So he did play it then.

Bizarre some of the stuff being spouted. So now you can't make a challenge in the box unless you thump it into row z. If you don't and the attacker falls over your outstretched leg is a pen.

Will make defending fun this new interpretation

 

[ilikeost]

I wish Lawton would stfu saying the first one wasn’t a penalty just because he called it wrong and doesn’t want to admit he got it wrong.

Stop trying to re-write history you thatched-roof haired prick!

Now having a go at Pavard who is a very decent player.

What a miserable twat.

I switched from watching the swedish broadcast to BBC because I got sick of our commentators. But fuck me, your guys are even worse!

 

[tiger666]

He made contact with the ball, that's all that matters.(as long as it wasnt reckless)
Lawro knows the score.

Always amuses me when pundits are awful until they say something to back up an argument, then they know their shit.

 

[hughy]

And the Lloros hate has spilled over into here I see. Ugh

Explain yourself.

 

[cwy21]

You guys would be livid if that was Kane though on goal and it wasn't given as a PK. Yes he slightly touched the ball. And then he tripped Griezmann's heels when he still would have had an obvious goal scoring opportunity.

 

[ilikeost]

He made contact with the ball, that's all that matters.(as long as it wasnt reckless)
Lawro knows the score.

WRONG