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Would we benefit from selling Modric this summer?

Sp3akerboxxx

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Definitely. Doubt we'll get £40m for him now though. He obviously doesn't want to be here, and I to think that a midfield of Parker, Sandro, and VDV would suit us better. Sell him and bring in Diarra for £8m (CMs of Huddlestone, Diarra, Sandro, Livermore, Parker to rotate), and bring in an AM (Hernanes for £14m?) to rotate with VDV. That way we could get in two quality players for one, and have an extra £18m to go towards a new striker.
 

southlondonyiddo

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Abso-fucking-lutely this.

Even on his worst day, played out of position, Modric is worth more to us than most of the ****'s we've had before or the alternative's like Livermore or Huddelstone.

We have players like Bale who fucking walk around with their thumbs up their arses letting everyone else do the work, contributing fuck all for 95% of the game, and people want to point the finger at Modric as one we can do without.

Modric is not blameless, defensively he as weaknesses, but they should have been addressed by the coaches, and he should not be playing as a deep holding midfielder, it is a waste of his talent and is the fault of our manager.

A month ago it was Parker who'd "lost form" and who was looking "disinterested". It's such a load of bollocks.

When our management and coaching staff get players playing in the correct tactical shapes and application (pressing coherently etc) all our players look excellent. Modric was very, very good at Chelsea, against Bolton and Swansea. No form dip, no looking disinterested, just being played in a more conducive environment with better balance that gets the best out of our players.

Modric had a poor game Sunday, but it isn't as simple as him just having an off day, in the four years he's been here I have never seen him look disinterested or not try, bar maybe City at home earlier this year for obvious reasons.

He was played against strong opposition in a tactical formation that does not see him at his best. He is not a ball winner, he is not a protecter or a busy ****. He needs to play with some freedom and he needs to play further up the pitch where he may not be deadly, but his movement, ability to move with the ball and see angles helps us build creative situations.

He is not beyond criticism, but why would anyone want to sell a player with his qualities is fucking ridiculous. Even if we can find better, why would we want him to go, surely he'd just make our squad even better. There are several average wankers we can offload before we start pissing ourselves about the need to be rid of a player as "bad" as Modric.

Your blind mate. He's not the same player as he used to be. He was my favourite player and my MOTM virtually every single game. I cannot remember the last time I thought Luca was MOTM

Don't get me wrong there are 1 or 2 others who are either past it or strolling along too but that does not disguise the fact that Luca don't want to play in the famous lillywhite shirt anymore
 

Mr Pink

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Abso-fucking-lutely this.

Even on his worst day, played out of position, Modric is worth more to us than most of the ****'s we've had before or the alternative's like Livermore or Huddelstone.

We have players like Bale who fucking walk around with their thumbs up their arses letting everyone else do the work, contributing fuck all for 95% of the game, and people want to point the finger at Modric as one we can do without.

Modric is not blameless, defensively he as weaknesses, but they should have been addressed by the coaches, and he should not be playing as a deep holding midfielder, it is a waste of his talent and is the fault of our manager.

A month ago it was Parker who'd "lost form" and who was looking "disinterested". It's such a load of bollocks.

When our management and coaching staff get players playing in the correct tactical shapes and application (pressing coherently etc) all our players look excellent. Modric was very, very good at Chelsea, against Bolton and Swansea. No form dip, no looking disinterested, just being played in a more conducive environment with better balance that gets the best out of our players.

Modric had a poor game Sunday, but it isn't as simple as him just having an off day, in the four years he's been here I have never seen him look disinterested or not try, bar maybe City at home earlier this year for obvious reasons.

He was played against strong opposition in a tactical formation that does not see him at his best. He is not a ball winner, he is not a protecter or a busy ****. He needs to play with some freedom and he needs to play further up the pitch where he may not be deadly, but his movement, ability to move with the ball and see angles helps us build creative situations.

He is not beyond criticism, but why would anyone want to sell a player with his qualities is fucking ridiculous. Even if we can find better, why would we want him to go, surely he'd just make our squad even better. There are several average wankers we can offload before we start pissing ourselves about the need to be rid of a player as "bad" as Modric.

I was reading what Bilic was saying about Modric. Basically said one of his main strengths was that he keeps the whole team moving forward, and in particular his ability to get the whole team as a unit pushed up the pitch 30 yards closer to the oppositions goal whilst keeping the shape of the side.
 

ultimateloner

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Modric is a part of the 'lack of closing down', in fact that should be his primary defensive role but he almost never does that closing down duty. That means that Parker has to hare out of the position in front of the defence to come and get the ball and we are then left exposed. For all of Modric's talents he is quite a big part of the problem.

Agree that he can do more closing down but there are worse offenders than him in this area. We can't change his game so bring Sandro in and shift Modric further up, or to the side.
 

ShelfSide18

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Abso-fucking-lutely this.

Even on his worst day, played out of position, Modric is worth more to us than most of the ****'s we've had before or the alternative's like Livermore or Huddelstone.

We have players like Bale who fucking walk around with their thumbs up their arses letting everyone else do the work, contributing fuck all for 95% of the game, and people want to point the finger at Modric as one we can do without.

Modric is not blameless, defensively he as weaknesses, but they should have been addressed by the coaches, and he should not be playing as a deep holding midfielder, it is a waste of his talent and is the fault of our manager.

A month ago it was Parker who'd "lost form" and who was looking "disinterested". It's such a load of bollocks.

When our management and coaching staff get players playing in the correct tactical shapes and application (pressing coherently etc) all our players look excellent. Modric was very, very good at Chelsea, against Bolton and Swansea. No form dip, no looking disinterested, just being played in a more conducive environment with better balance that gets the best out of our players.

Modric had a poor game Sunday, but it isn't as simple as him just having an off day, in the four years he's been here I have never seen him look disinterested or not try, bar maybe City at home earlier this year for obvious reasons.

He was played against strong opposition in a tactical formation that does not see him at his best. He is not a ball winner, he is not a protecter or a busy ****. He needs to play with some freedom and he needs to play further up the pitch where he may not be deadly, but his movement, ability to move with the ball and see angles helps us build creative situations.

He is not beyond criticism, but why would anyone want to sell a player with his qualities is fucking ridiculous. Even if we can find better, why would we want him to go, surely he'd just make our squad even better. There are several average wankers we can offload before we start pissing ourselves about the need to be rid of a player as "bad" as Modric.

Top post.

I may slightly differ in how I see best to deploy Modric, I don't mind him orchestrating from a deeper role - obviously in a Cm3 - but this hits the nail on the head.
 

InOffMeLeftShin

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Agree that he can do more closing down but there are worse offenders than him in this area. We can't change his game so bring Sandro in and shift Modric further up, or to the side.

It shouldn't really be a hard thing for the coaches to get him to hassle and close down. He simply needs to know what his defensive role is and be made accountable for it and if he did that then Parker would be able to own the pitch in front of the defence. If we play Sandro (which I certainly would against QPR) then who do you drop to accomodate Modric elsewhere?
 

RupertModrić1993

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If Citeh are genuinely interested then at least we will get serious wedge and potentially a player, realistically I would like Johnson. I don't think Levy will sell to Chelski, not after last summer and the way they conduct their business.
Johnson?? dzeko would be a better choice IMO
 

double0

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I agree with BC regarding Modric but of late I get the feeling he just doesn't want to be at Spurs. I was willing to put up with it this season on a principled point not being builled to sell to Chelsea. Putting all into consideration ie team moral, if Modric plays up and wants to leave, we shouldn't stand in his way.
 

JJetset

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Cant be bothered to read through all the posts so i apologise if it has been already said but has anyone watched Moneyball?

That is what H was prepared or resigned to do last summer with Modric, sell your best player and get 3 good players in. In an odd twist it was Daniel that was against that as you would think it would be the other way around. It was because that Daniel was so vocal that Luka wouldnt go that he didnt sell to lose face. Mind you At 45m plus Kalou his bum was twitching!!

'Guessing'....the names of some of the names touted to come in and with the hindsight of where we are currently at, i think we would have been in a better position as a club if we had sold but there again Chelsea would have been in a better league position with Luka!!
 

ShelfSide18

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Cant be bothered to read through all the posts so i apologise if it has been already said but has anyone watched Moneyball?

That is what H was prepared or resigned to do last summer with Modric, sell your best player and get 3 good players in. In an odd twist it was Daniel that was against that as you would think it would be the other way around. It was because that Daniel was so vocal that Luka wouldnt go that he didnt sell to lose face. Mind you At 45m plus Kalou his bum was twitching!!

'Guessing'....the names of some of the names touted to come in and with the hindsight of where we are currently at, i think we would have been in a better position as a club if we had sold but there again Chelsea would have been in a better league position with Luka!!

Do you know what the state of play will be with Luka this summer, do you think Levy will relent?
 

JJetset

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Do you know what the state of play will be with Luka this summer, do you think Levy will relent?
I dont know for definite but i personally (me) think we may cash in?
Really depends on new manager and if we qualify for the CL.
 

ShelfSide18

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I dont know for definite but i personally (me) think we may cash in?
Really depends on new manager and if we qualify for the CL.

Sure, if we get into the CL (please, oh please) at Chelsea's expense then I can't imagine Luka would want to swap, but I guess Utd still have admiring eyes.

Summer's going to be fun isn't it.
 

JJetset

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Sure, if we get into the CL (please, oh please) at Chelsea's expense then I can't imagine Luka would want to swap, but I guess Utd still have admiring eyes.

Summer's going to be fun isn't it.

Utd have been after him for 2 years!
We HAVE to get CL or summer will be a bummer!!
 

ShelfSide18

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Utd have been after him for 2 years!
We HAVE to get CL or summer will be a bummer!!

Scholes successor I guess, better get used to Modders shooting boots up there then.

It goes without saying that getting in the CL is so important, it may give us a chance of keeping the little man. Cheers for the info.
 

Spurvert

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CL football will also put us in a strong position if/when he decides he wants to go and we decide to cash in and avoid another summer like the last.
 

jonathanhotspur

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Scholes successor I guess, better get used to Modders shooting boots up there then.

It goes without saying that getting in the CL is so important, it may give us a chance of keeping the little man. Cheers for the info.

Fergie thinks they're similar but different. Where would he play him? That's the burning question for me. Similarly, when they were chasing Sneijder, I was working myself into a lather trying to figure out what his plan for him was.
 

ShelfSide18

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Fergie thinks they're similar but different. Where would he play him? That's the burning question for me. Similarly, when they were chasing Sneijder, I was working myself into a lather trying to figure out what his plan for him was.

Yer, I've been mulling this myself. I am also intrigued as to what AVB had in mind for him if he had got his man - I think as part of a 3 replacing Lampard alongside Mikel and Ramires.

As for Utd, I don't know - their fluid 4-4-2 (of sorts) this season has grown and got better, Scholes and Carrick as 2 passers in the middle, although you may see Fergie revert to a central 3 if he got Luka. If they got Wesley, that may see Rooney revert to the lone no9, it would be very interesting to see what Fergie would do, although as you may guess - personally I don't want to see it actually happen.
 

garyhopkins

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There are five very important games to go. They will determine whether the club sells Luka or not. The (new?) manager will have to make a decision. With the financial regulations making big transfers less likely, I suspect that if he goes ManU is where he will end up, and he will be very very good if he does go there; the manager will use him more effectively and he will be surrounded by players who never give up.

All the talk about Luka not wanting to play for us anymore is stupid. Yes, the guy looks very disappointed that we have caved in so easily of late, but who knows what is really going on in his head. Anyway the little guy has 5 games to help us into the CL. We need him now because he is one of our two best players (with VDV), but if we fail it won't be because he's disinterested, it's because we as a team aren't good enough.

Would we benefit from selling him in the summer? To be honest right now I think it's a stupid question, because all it does is undermine Spurs supporters feelings toward their team when clearly we need to be 100% behind the boys.
 
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