Would you sell Huddlestone...?

[sim0n]

If they paid £16m plus I'd sell him. I think he has many qualities but a few structural deficits which no matter how hard he tries he's only ever going to be able to compensate for. I also think we have within the squad potential replacements.

So, if the money was right I'd sell him and I wouldn't mind to who.

Xabi Alonso is slow and it doesn't stop him,... no sale, THudd is a player this team is being built around. As as previously expressed, manUre can go FUQ themselves,... regardless :razz:

 

[ShelfSide18]

There's not one single player in and around our regular first team squad that I would like to see go, such is the quality we have at our disposal. There's just no deadwood anymore.

That said, if Huddlestone were to go I don't think it would be as catastrophic as losing some other players in the squad, players like Modric, VDV, Bale, Gomes, Lennon. I don't want him to go at all, but I don't think he's quite as pivotal as some would like to make out

 

[THOWIG]

I am gobsmacked than anyone would consider selling a 23 year old English Player with his talent and ability. We're a strange bunch us Spurs fans sometimes.

 

[$herringham]

The last time a rumour started like this before a big game was Lennon to chelsea. He ended up scoring the winner as we won 2-1
So if Hudd scores the winner today, keep the rumours coming
But tbh, I don't see us winning today

 

[phil]

The last time a rumour started like this before a big game was Lennon to chelsea. He ended up scoring the winner as we won 2-1
So if Hudd scores the winner today, keep the rumours coming
But tbh, I don't see us winning today

He's injured.

 

[Krafty]

Would not sell Huddlestone. How he isnt getting more game time for England is beyond me.

I thought Carrick was good for us, but operated far too deep for someone of his ability. Not hard to spread 45 yards balls out wide when you are sat on the halfway line or deeper with the opposition happy for you to have the ball.

Compare Carrick's speed of passing to Huddlestone or Scholes - he is a lot slower in the mind, and slower with his feet. I thought going to Utd was the best deal for everyone and that Fergie would turn him into a really good midfielder, creating and scoring goals, but Carrick has been found out.

I think Huddlestone is already the better player, and he can come out of his shell more than Carrick, who regresses further into his. Selling Huddlestone would be horrendous

 

[kaz Hirai]

funny how united want to buy all our players just before we play them :lol:

 

[Wiener]

Would not sell Huddlestone. How he isnt getting more game time for England is beyond me.

I thought Carrick was good for us, but operated far too deep for someone of his ability. Not hard to spread 45 yards balls out wide when you are sat on the halfway line or deeper with the opposition happy for you to have the ball.

Compare Carrick's speed of passing to Huddlestone or Scholes - he is a lot slower in the mind, and slower with his feet. I thought going to Utd was the best deal for everyone and that Fergie would turn him into a really good midfielder, creating and scoring goals, but Carrick has been found out.

I think Huddlestone is already the better player, and he can come out of his shell more than Carrick, who regresses further into his. Selling Huddlestone would be horrendous

No offence intended, but I don't agree with any of this. I think the sale of Carrick set us back a couple of years, if not more. The team was built around him, but we had no choice but to sell him. But for lasagnagate we would most likely have finished top 4.

We played a much less attacking football in those days. Carrick was superb both defensively and offensively. His positioning and anticipation meant that he was rarely forced to commit to a tackle where he didn't win the ball. Once on the ball, his composure and technique allowed him to create the space to move the ball out of our third and start an attack. He was the pivot of our team.

Huddlestone is an excellent player, but I don't believe he is anywhere the level Carrick was in the 2 years before he left for Manchester United. I don't understand the adulation he receives from some fans. He is good but he can be replaced, possibly even by Sandro.

His main problem is his upper body weight. Modric isn't blessed with pace, but look at the way he can create space for himself by shifting body weight very slightly and quickly, fooling the opposing player. Huddlestone will never be able to do that. Opposition players can anticipate him too easily. At the same time this gives him a disadvantage when defending. If Modric were playing against him, he would run rings around him.

 

[Wiener]

Xabi Alonso is slow and it doesn't stop him,... no sale, THudd is a player this team is being built around. As as previously expressed, manUre can go FUQ themselves,... regardless :razz:

It's not so much about speed for a defensive/holding midfielder. It's composure, reading of the game and of course as with all top level football professionals, agility. Huddlestone, in my opinion carries too much upper body weight for the latter. Comparing height and respective weight of Alonso, Sandro and Huddlestone illustrates this quite clearly:

Alonso: 183cm - 70.6kg
Sandro: 187cm - 75kg
Huddlestone: 180cm - 80kg

He is a superb player when he has space, but it's difficult for him to make that space.

 

[tooey]

No offence intended, but I don't agree with any of this. I think the sale of Carrick set us back a couple of years, if not more. The team was built around him, but we had no choice but to sell him. But for lasagnagate we would most likely have finished top 4.

We played a much less attacking football in those days. Carrick was superb both defensively and offensively. His positioning and anticipation meant that he was rarely forced to commit to a tackle where he didn't win the ball. Once on the ball, his composure and technique allowed him to create the space to move the ball out of our third and start an attack. He was the pivot of our team.

Huddlestone is an excellent player, but I don't believe he is anywhere the level Carrick was in the 2 years before he left for Manchester United. I don't understand the adulation he receives from some fans. He is good but he can be replaced, possibly even by Sandro.

His main problem is his upper body weight. Modric isn't blessed with pace, but look at the way he can create space for himself by shifting body weight very slightly and quickly, fooling the opposing player. Huddlestone will never be able to do that. Opposition players can anticipate him too easily. At the same time this gives him a disadvantage when defending. If Modric were playing against him, he would run rings around him.

I do agree with most of your post but this section is little bit irrelevant and a totally unfair comparison to boot. Huddlestone isn't modric, he isn't in the same mould as modric. Modric is a busy, pass and move keeping the attacking ticking over type of player. Hudd however normally sits a bit deeper and DICTATES the direction and speed of play. He doesn't need to be able to skin players, that's not his job. Leave that to the likes of Modric, VdV, jenas, lennon, bale.

Hudd likes to receive the ball, take a glace around and shift it to either wing or play it simple to the likes of modric and VdV and let them to what they are good at.

As for his defending, IMO it has improved hugely in the last 2 seasons, for the size of him he used to be a bit of a fairy. He's finally learnt to use that big frame of his to full affect. He may not be the most agile or graceful on the ball but in my opinion he is a massive player for us and would be sorely missed if he did leave.

I personally cant think of a player like him in his position in the world. Unless a bid of 20-30m came in then I wouldn't sell him for shit.

 

[tooey]

It's not so much about speed for a defensive/holding midfielder. It's composure, reading of the game and of course as with all top level football professionals, agility. Huddlestone, in my opinion carries too much upper body weight for the latter. Comparing height and respective weight of Alonso, Sandro and Huddlestone illustrates this quite clearly:

Alonso: 183cm - 70.6kg
Sandro: 187cm - 75kg
Huddlestone: 180cm - 80kg


He is a superb player when he has space, but it's difficult for him to make that space.

Some of the best CM's that ever played the game weren't what your describe as agile. I could name you 20 excellent DM/CM's that were/are a bit on the fat side.

 

[PT]

Some of the best CM's that ever played the game weren't what your describe as agile. I could name you 20 excellent DM/CM's that were/are a bit on the fat side.

:razz: off you go then!!

 

[Wiener]

I do agree with most of your post but this section is little bit irrelevant and a totally unfair comparison to boot. Huddlestone isn't modric, he isn't in the same mould as modric.

I am just using Modric to illustrate Huddlestone's weakness. His physique. His lack of what some call agility. All top-level professional football players need to have this. Unfortunately for Huddlestone, he is just built the wrong way.

Of course they are 2 very different players, one attacking and one defensive.

 

[Wiener]

Some of the best CM's that ever played the game weren't what your describe as agile. I could name you 20 excellent DM/CM's that were/are a bit on the fat side.

I wouldn't say Huddlestone is fat. He is just built like brick shithouse.

 

[Wiener]

Some of the best CM's that ever played the game weren't what your describe as agile. I could name you 20 excellent DM/CM's that were/are a bit on the fat side.

Also bear in mind that the game has become much more professional over the last 20 years. Someone like the Jan "the gay whale" Molby would probably struggle in today's much faster game.

 

[kernowspur]

Xabi Alonso is slow and it doesn't stop him,... no sale, THudd is a player this team is being built around. As as previously expressed, manUre can go FUQ themselves,... regardless :razz:

IMO we would be a much better team if it was built around Modric rather than Hudd. I probably wouldn't sell Hudd but with Modric, Sandro, Jenas and Palacios in the squad then I don't think Hudd is going to be an automatic first choice.

 

[Yid-ol]

No... dont really need to say much more

 

[Legend10]

It's not so much about speed for a defensive/holding midfielder. It's composure, reading of the game and of course as with all top level football professionals, agility. Huddlestone, in my opinion carries too much upper body weight for the latter. Comparing height and respective weight of Alonso, Sandro and Huddlestone illustrates this quite clearly:

Alonso: 183cm - 70.6kg
Sandro: 187cm - 75kg
Huddlestone: 180cm - 80kg

He is a superb player when he has space, but it's difficult for him to make that space.

I would never have said that Alonso was taller than Hudd?

 

[markiespurs]

I am gobsmacked than anyone would consider selling a 23 year old English Player with his talent and ability. We're a strange bunch us Spurs fans sometimes.

This is the bit i'm not understanding. Huddlestone is only 23 and already a key player in a side that finnished fourth last season

Huddlestone already has immense talent and ability and is improving his game all the time. Not only is Tommy a key part of our side now (as evidanced by Harry consistantly picking him when fit and even handing him the Captains armband) but he will also be a key player, hopefully for us, in years to come and is the type of player we need to keep.

As for his size, thats not really a problem. His movment and reading of the game have already improved greatly and this part of his game should only improve with greater experiance.

 

[stickyfinger]

I would never have said that Alonso was taller than Hudd?

And you would always be right.