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Would you take 80mill for Kane ?

archiewasking

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Of course not. He's not some puffed up, ego fuelled prima donna. Harry has a great eye for goal, loves the club and comes across as an ordinary, excited just to be involved, guy. We need that kind of person in our Tottenham these days. Screw the money. Or agree the £80m with United, send them a sealed box marked "Kane; open when money transferred to Spurs" and make sure we put Paulinho and Adebayor in it.
 

Ironskullll

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How does anyone know what he's worth? If he's a player who can score 20+ league goals per season, in huge pressure games and with such a variety as he does, and is capable of doing that for the next 10 to 12 years, then surely he'd be worth much more than £80 million? But we just don't know. Would it be worth cashing in our chips now and risking losing such a player? We hardly have a track record of spending that sort of money effectively, and another factor that has to be considered is the impact on next year's league position without him. I think it would be daft to release him even for that sort of money.
 

Sir Henry

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Is there a utd or ex utd player that they ain't gonna use to tap him up, first Rooney now Phil fucking neville
 

StartingPrice

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There's another aspect to this, as well: I have said several times that the media are desperate to get back to being their tapper-uppers in chief, having had a couple of losses with Modric and Bale.* But we all of us, including myself, have fallen into playing their game.

Accepting (and I personally will never bluddy accept it and wouldn't expect any other Spurs fan too, either) that the media have decided that Harry Kane is due too Gawddam good for lil ol' us, who the fahook has decried that United have to be the sole, single and solitary suitors? I mean, really, who? Wouldn't it be in our best interests to generate an auction? We know Real have been sniffing around. We know that Citeh are in dire needs of home-grown players, could easily match United for price and Levy (and the rest of us, I guess) would rather see him going their than Old Trafford. So why the fahook does not one single media report that I have read mention anyone other than United? EH! Who has decided this? Have they contacted Levy and told him that they are going to force purchase Kane like they did with Berbatov, but we mustn't dare try and get any money for ourselves? It's f*cking ridiculous, but everyone just goes along with it.

We don't want to sell him, he doesn't want to leave and we don't have to accept United as the sole suitors, restricting our bargaining and profit limits /of!

*You would think they would get the message after Modric and Bale, but no, the media are still totally obsessed with being tapper-uppers in chief to United in their desperate need to see a Harlem Globe Trotters style Galactico of the north, in United, to compette with Real, rather than see other big English clubs build teams to compete with United. Apart from anything else, it fails to understand that there are now two teams who can outspend United, and we are in a much better position than when they force-purchased Berbatov. On top of which, Levy despises them for the way they did that, and Kane doesn't even want to move!
 

ultimateloner

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was there any need for the end part?
or could you not think or a response so just threw an insult in there to anyone who has a different opinion?

For me to build a good squad we should be looking to get the best HG players in that we can. Kane is one of the best HG players around at the moment and we should be holding on to him.

It's not intended as an insult sorry. What I meant was if you won't sell for 80m then you are letting your emotions get the better of you.

80m invested correctly will make the overall squad stronger. Besides even if that isn't the case and the club decides to not reinvest into the squad it's still better for the club.

The clubs financial strength is more important than the teams performance within reason. The priority of the club is shareholders then employees then fans. If we don't make our shareholders happy we won't get the new stadium through or attract a big buyer who will give us an upgrade in the wage structure to eventually compete with top 4.
 

tttcowan

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No. Never. Not for anything. We have to at least try to find our Totti. Totti has been priceless to Roma. Scholes was priceless to Man United. Homegrown and world class = priceless. We must try.
 

StartingPrice

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It's not intended as an insult sorry. What I meant was if you won't sell for 80m then you are letting your emotions get the better of you.

80m invested correctly will make the overall squad stronger. Besides even if that isn't the case and the club decides to not reinvest into the squad it's still better for the club.

The clubs financial strength is more important than the teams performance within reason. The priority of the club is shareholders then employees then fans. If we don't make our shareholders happy we won't get the new stadium through or attract a big buyer who will give us an upgrade in the wage structure to eventually compete with top 4.

The problem is, aside from some folk considering your assertion insulting, that a lot of the posts (including mine, if I may modestly suggest so) specifically deal with the arguments as to why it wouldn't make any sense whatsoever to accept this deal on rational as well as emotional grounds. Not the the emotional grounds should be dismissed, anyway.* This was specifically in response to earlier posts claiming anyone who says no just doesn't understand in some way.

Perhaps rather than making a post that did appear pretty insulting, TBH, you could have actually read the thread, assimilated the arguments showing why it wouldn't make much sense to sell him right now even for £80 million, and then show why you believe you are on firm intellectual ground for dismissing those arguments.
 

ERO

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No. Never. Not for anything. We have to at least try to find our Totti. Totti has been priceless to Roma. Scholes was priceless to Man United. Homegrown and world class = priceless. We must try.


Your avatar wants to sit down and have a chat with you.

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Hoddle&Waddle

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It's not intended as an insult sorry. What I meant was if you won't sell for 80m then you are letting your emotions get the better of you.

80m invested correctly will make the overall squad stronger. Besides even if that isn't the case and the club decides to not reinvest into the squad it's still better for the club.

The clubs financial strength is more important than the teams performance within reason. The priority of the club is shareholders then employees then fans. If we don't make our shareholders happy we won't get the new stadium through or attract a big buyer who will give us an upgrade in the wage structure to eventually compete with top 4.
We dont need to buy 3 or 4 players though, the squad is bloated as it is. And we have enough money already to make the improvements we need this Summer without selling one of our best players. We have a good team and a good crop coming through, last thing we need is another load of players coming in taking us back to square one.
 

chrissivad

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It's not intended as an insult sorry. What I meant was if you won't sell for 80m then you are letting your emotions get the better of you.

80m invested correctly will make the overall squad stronger. Besides even if that isn't the case and the club decides to not reinvest into the squad it's still better for the club.

The clubs financial strength is more important than the teams performance within reason. The priority of the club is shareholders then employees then fans. If we don't make our shareholders happy we won't get the new stadium through or attract a big buyer who will give us an upgrade in the wage structure to eventually compete with top 4.


Am I?
How would you know if my emotions are getting the better of me? or are you just guessing and basing this on...well nothing relay?

Investing £80m doesn't mean you will have a better squad, and its not just us that have seen this.

How much of that £80m will be used to find a striker that can come in and get around 20 goals a season? that will fit in with our wage structure and where we are at the moment (not CL Team). Or do you think Ade and/or Soldado could step up?

The club is already financially stable so we dont need to sell players that dont want to go. If we need to raise cash then why not get rid of the players on high contracts that are not playing? Im sure that would save a small fortune.

Can i ask why we wont get a stadium if the shareholders are not happy?
Or why we need a big buyer of the club? With a bigger stadium then we could see the wage structure rise from the first season we are in it.

Will we get the big naming rights deals (or even shirt, kit sponsors ect) if we keep selling our best players?
Will we sell out our new ground when we get it of we keep selling our best players?
 

ERO

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It's not intended as an insult sorry. What I meant was if you won't sell for 80m then you are letting your emotions get the better of you.

80m invested correctly will make the overall squad stronger. Besides even if that isn't the case and the club decides to not reinvest into the squad it's still better for the club.

The clubs financial strength is more important than the teams performance within reason. The priority of the club is shareholders then employees then fans. If we don't make our shareholders happy we won't get the new stadium through or attract a big buyer who will give us an upgrade in the wage structure to eventually compete with top 4.

I'm not so sure whose judgement is being clouded by feelings. You feel we would get an overall stronger squad from selling our 20+ goals a year striker, even though recent empirical evidence shows that two clubs in a rather comparable situation (us and Liverpool) has been severely weakened by this trade off.

It also seems that you may not be aware that the only shareholders that needs to be happy for us to get a new stadium are going full speed ahead with building it. When it comes to the stakeholders in the club, which is where supporter power comes into play, selling Kane is likely to create a very negative reaction. I don't think your reasoning makes as much sense corporate wise as you like to imply.

The corporate implications of any deal of this size are more complicated than the emotions vs sense you are implying it is. I would like to hear your reasoning as to why Kane is worth more for United than he is for us, as that is what this deal being made will mean (with the assumption of Kane not forcing the move, which is not what's being discussed). Quite the contrary I will argue that Kane is worth more to us, as we simply can't replace him, whereas United through several reasons can attract a much higher calibre of players than us.
 
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tttcowan

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Your avatar wants to sit down and have a chat with you.

ledley-king_2061005c.jpg

Touche haha... Still, great example of why we shouldn't sell Harry Kane. Ledley was priceless to us. Maybe Harry will be as well of given the chance.

... You would of thought after we'd blown all the Bale and Modric money people would would realise that it ain't as simple as this players worth x.
 

DaleMurphy

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No

It's more about him a being a Spurs lad than anything. What kind of message would it send to the fans who sing "He's one of our own" to sell a young player who truly loves the club immediately after his breakout season
 

InOffMeLeftShin

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Not for me. It's not even to do with blowing the money if we get it or the fact we probably can't attract top names even if we have it. I simply think of the other times we've sold players when they've been in demand and how we've missed out on some magical opportunities.

We sold Carrick and then Berbatov came into the side. Then we sold Berbatov and Modric came into the side. To think that Berbatov/Keane combo had to make do with Jenas and Zokora still makes me sad every time I think of what might have been. Modric, bale, Vdv with Crouch, Pav and Bent up top... Seriously? If we'd managed to keep Carrick longer, or Berbatov longer we'd have had title contending sides. If we'd have kept modric an extra year for when Bale hit crazy levels, we'd have played champions league football again. Even imagine having bale and Kane in the same team.

We've managed to only stagger these kind of players in the team at the same time once which lead to us making CL and then reaching quarters. It was probably worth a good chunk of that £80m.

You know another worldie (or just really damn good player) will come along in a couple of seasons and I'd rather Kane was around still to see how it turns out.
 

yido_number1

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Tougher debate than some are making out. Personally I would say no unless Aguero suddenly expressed a desire to come to spurs and play for a quarter of his wages and was available for £30m...

Nobody knows what will happen with Kane in his second season he could flop or he could prove what an amazing player he is. Not as black and white as some are making out...
 

robin09

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Given our recent record, I have little faith we would spend £80m wisely on new players. We'd be losing a probable 20+ goals per season striker, and trying to find someone who could replace that.

I'd keep him, we've done the hard work in producing him, stop selling off our influential players and build around them.
 

HotspurFC1950

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Of course not. He's not some puffed up, ego fuelled prima donna. Harry has a great eye for goal, loves the club and comes across as an ordinary, excited just to be involved, guy. We need that kind of person in our Tottenham these days. Screw the money. Or agree the £80m with United, send them a sealed box marked "Kane; open when money transferred to Spurs" and make sure we put Paulinho and Adebayor in it.


I certainly would applaud Kane for it but has he actually ever said he "loves the club" ?
 
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