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SpursDave88

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I'm not basing my opinion of him on match reports, I'm just saying they'll provide evidence of what the majority of us thought at the time. This whole thread is evidence that he was not particularly good and we were right to sell. I honestly don't know where you've got the idea that he was a hard worker from mate, sorry.

Because he was very slow, he always looks like he is working hard...
 

Geyzer Soze

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I'm not basing my opinion of him on match reports, I'm just saying they'll provide evidence of what the majority of us thought at the time. This whole thread is evidence that he was not particularly good and we were right to sell. I honestly don't know where you've got the idea that he was a hard worker from mate, sorry.
Watching him play. It always seemed to me that he was giving 100%.

And I seem to remember that the general feeling was that he did give 100% and tried hard, but that his technical skills left something to be desired. And that he played 'negatively' although I am really not sure what the hell that means, particularly given the number of big match winners he managed to slot in for us.

I have not read this whole thread here nor trawled match reports for verification of that, i am just going on my own memory ... but laziness was not what he was criticised for in my recollection.

Onions.
 

Lufti

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Watching him play. It always seemed to me that he was giving 100%.

And I seem to remember that the general feeling was that he did give 100% and tried hard, but that his technical skills left something to be desired. And that he played 'negatively' although I am really not sure what the hell that means, particularly given the number of big match winners he managed to slot in for us.

I have not read this whole thread here nor trawled match reports for verification of that, i am just going on my own memory ... but laziness was not what he was criticised for in my recollection.

Onions.

Neither have I, but I just picked a page at random (was 37) and found two posts effectively saying he's lazy. I did actually quite like him, but didn't think he was good enough. Tried to see if whoscored had any distance stats for him to either verify my recollection or prove me wrong, and although it doesn't, it has 'defensive contribution' down as one of his weaknesses :p

Anyway as you say, onions, but AVB did see fit to sell..
 

Geyzer Soze

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Neither have I, but I just picked a page at random (was 37) and found two posts effectively saying he's lazy. I did actually quite like him, but didn't think he was good enough. Tried to see if whoscored had any distance stats for him to either verify my recollection or prove me wrong, and although it doesn't, it has 'defensive contribution' down as one of his weaknesses :p

Anyway as you say, onions, but AVB did see fit to sell..
Anyways it's all moot really, i am sure that he wanted to go to Seattle, he is a big hero there, plays every game, back where he is from (well, the country if not the area) and it's a huge final payday for him, so best thing was to let him go anyway even if we did want to keep him really.

Remains to say, I for one am really glad he is doing so well (both for the US and for the Sounders or whever they are called)
 

BringBack_leGin

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Not overly sure why this discussion is necessary over a year after he left.

He left because he was getting older, we received a good fee and during the previous season as a first team regular he did very little to show himself as being particularly good. He scored a few important goals but that didn't disguise his inadequacies.
 

TottenhamMattSpur

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Even I admit I'm picking on him now but again I feel the need to make an example of soldado.
I've witnessed him stood around doing fuck all, game after game.
He gets plaudits on here for his hard work and that's used to defend his lack of goals.

Dempsey did more for the team in terms of work and scored more goals.

I don't understand how fickle sine people can be at times.
 
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danielneeds

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Not overly sure why this discussion is necessary over a year after he left.

He left because he was getting older, we received a good fee and during the previous season as a first team regular he did very little to show himself as being particularly good. He scored a few important goals but that didn't disguise his inadequacies.
I think this is something endemic in the discussion over players here. Almost all players have inadequacies, but it's how you put them together with other players and in a system that negates them and maximises potential.

When we signed Dempsey we asked him to play a role that was alien to him - playing in the hole in a team that was used to having VDV there - so obviously he failed to shine. If we'd have played him in a front three with a creative striker who could occupy defenders, and with a playmaker with vision behind putting balls through, Dempsey could focus on timing his runs into the box, perhaps he'd have been fit for purpose.
 

THFCSPURS19

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Clint Dempsey. Good at football.

Would have LOVED to see him at spurs last season and this upcoming one under Poch. He is someone you want on your team. He just pops up in the box, does alot of work and leaves it all on the pitch. Not to mention, he has seemingly added some beautiful moves to his repertoire. But noooooooo, everyone here decided to bitch and moan about him.
Let's face it, if Dempsey wasn't American, you wouldn't be saying that.
 

BringBack_leGin

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I think this is something endemic in the discussion over players here. Almost all players have inadequacies, but it's how you put them together with other players and in a system that negates them and maximises potential.

When we signed Dempsey we asked him to play a role that was alien to him - playing in the hole in a team that was used to having VDV there - so obviously he failed to shine. If we'd have played him in a front three with a creative striker who could occupy defenders, and with a playmaker with vision behind putting balls through, Dempsey could focus on timing his runs into the box, perhaps he'd have been fit for purpose.

Perhaps, but I think he'd have still struggled as at Spurs a player with poor touch, technique and completely lacking in any elegance as part of our forward line will always be picked on. That might not be right, but it's the way things are. There's a reason why so much more patience is being shown wth Soldado despite have a far worse sesaon last year than Dempsey's the previous year.
 

THFCSPURS19

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Even I admit I'm picking on him now but again I feel the need to make an example of soldado.
I've witnessed him stood around doing fuck all, game after game.
He gets plaudits on here for his hard work and that's used to defend his lack of goals.

Dempsey did more for the team in terms of work and scored more goals.

I don't understand how fickle sine people can be at times.

I think you were seeing what you wanted to see and not what actually happened.
 

Lufti

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Even I admit I'm picking on him now but again I feel the need to make an example of soldado.
I've witnessed him stood around doing fuck all, game after game.
He gets plaudits on here for his hard work and that's used to defend his lack of goals.

Dempsey did more for the team in terms of work and scored more goals.

I don't understand how fickle sine people can be at times.

Surely you're just as fickle given you've constantly slated Soldado but not Dempsey?
 

grittyspur1

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Martin Jol knew & Jurgen Klinnsman knows how to play Dempsey & AVB really didn't have a clue.
Anyone who thought that Dempsey would be a like for like replacement for VdV really doesn't have a clue either. They don't even play the same position on the field!
Dempsey is an American football legend & will probably end up as the USA's top goal scorer ever (he's one goal away from equally Donovan's record).
Things might not have worked out at Tottenham for Clint, but in the long run he will go down as the most prolific American striker to have ever played the game. That record speaks for itself.
 

Lufti

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Martin Jol knew & Jurgen Klinnsman knows how to play Dempsey & AVB really didn't have a clue.
Anyone who thought that Dempsey would be a like for like replacement for VdV really doesn't have a clue either. They don't even play the same position on the field!
Dempsey is an American football legend & will probably end up as the USA's top goal scorer ever (he's one goal away from equally Donovan's record).
Things might not have worked out at Tottenham for Clint, but in the long run he will go down as the most prolific American striker to have ever played the game. That record speaks for itself.

Mhm. It's impressive, but let's not forget, this is the same Landon Donavon who couldn't secure a permanent move to any european clubs and whose most successful stint in europe was a decent couple of outings for Everton..
 

kaz Hirai

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Even I admit I'm picking on him now but again I feel the need to make an example of soldado.
I've witnessed him stood around doing fuck all, game after game.
He gets plaudits on here for his hard work and that's used to defend his lack of goals.

Dempsey did more for the team in terms of work and scored more goals.

I don't understand how fickle sine people can be at times.

He scored one more goal than soldado.

Rightly sold, why has this even been bumped? Maybe we bump a helda Postiga thread if he comes on in portugals final game too
 

Yorkville Spur

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I still think we underappreciated Dempsey. He scored goals for us under AVB when no on else but Bale could. He was a good squad player but he's making a lot more money in Seattle and we made a decent fee from him so it worked out well in the end for everyone. And, hey, his goals kept Fergie from laughing at us one last time on his way to pasture.
 

SpursDave88

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Martin Jol knew & Jurgen Klinnsman knows how to play Dempsey & AVB really didn't have a clue.
Anyone who thought that Dempsey would be a like for like replacement for VdV really doesn't have a clue either. They don't even play the same position on the field!
Dempsey is an American football legend & will probably end up as the USA's top goal scorer ever (he's one goal away from equally Donovan's record).
Things might not have worked out at Tottenham for Clint, but in the long run he will go down as the most prolific American striker to have ever played the game. That record speaks for itself.

Sorry, but that's not that big of an achievement, America have never been any good. Hell Robbie Keane is Ireland's greatest ever goalscorer and frankly when you compare both in their primes Dempsey isn't fit to lace Keane's boots.
 
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