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Does it work the other way around?
I have a few vowels I could trade for......
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Does it work the other way around?
I have a few vowels I could trade for......
Del Nido is no longer at Sevilla, so any animus between our clubs is likely gone. Furthermore, they've sold plenty of their players in recent years at prices that were reasonably fair: Negredo, Navas, Kondogbia.
Moreno would be an exciting signing. I'd prefer Rojo, but it seems we aren't that interested in him for whatever reason.
Moreno would be an exciting signing. I'd prefer Rojo, but it seems we aren't that interested in him for whatever reason.
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From how I understand it the buy out clause is a fee agreed by club and a player as a get out, generally the get out is a high price that allows the player to move if the club get that money. The idea is to avoid the players who get a great offer from another club trying to force a move at a low price, it gives the club reluctant to sell a bargaining point -this is the price if you want the player that much cough up the ackers or he stays.
The general rule is that clubs will accept the high fee and the player won't push to get a move at less
That's why most clubs will take the buy out regardless of Spanish or International clubs and in doing that the transfer is classed as one deal, however if a club wants to be difficult it can reject a buy out which means the player can then force a buy out by buying himself out of his contract but this then counts as two deals which incurs double the taxation
Obviously most players don't have the cash to buy themselves out so the buying club can fund it and this is where I believe it gets a little more complex because if you recall our bid for Diego Capel Seville demanded more than his buy out but actually that would have been less than giving Capel the funds to buy out his contract and the cost of taxes for two deals.
Actually Seville being difficult did us a favour because Diego Capel was crap and not worth anything like his buy out
Fortunately the majority of deals are mutually agreed at the market price rather than at a buy out price
The general rule is that clubs will accept the high fee and the player won't push to get a move at less
That's why most clubs will take the buy out regardless of Spanish or International clubs and in doing that the transfer is classed as one deal, however if a club wants to be difficult it can reject a buy out which means the player can then force a buy out by buying himself out of his contract but this then counts as two deals which incurs double the taxation
Obviously most players don't have the cash to buy themselves out so the buying club can fund it and this is where I believe it gets a little more complex because if you recall our bid for Diego Capel Seville demanded more than his buy out but actually that would have been less than giving Capel the funds to buy out his contract and the cost of taxes for two deals.
Actually Seville being difficult did us a favour because Diego Capel was crap and not worth anything like his buy out
Fortunately the majority of deals are mutually agreed at the market price rather than at a buy out price
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You use Dembele as an example of not moving the ball quickly enough but surely this could be changed with a bit of coaching and instruction to pass it quicker instead of taking an extra touch. Surely a professional footballer is capable of this. I think Dembele has a lot of other attributes that help the team and if he can be instructed to quicken up the play then I'd rather keep him than spend millions replacing him. Obviously if he can keep injury free. I agree that we need to improve in this area but I think we have the players here already if that's how they are instructed to play.
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Relative success is correct. Overachieving based on the squad of players available - I think every Spurs fan would be happy with that outcome this season
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Del Nido, the President at the time, began a seven year jail sentence in March, the current president, Carmona Castro, has no feud with Levy.
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Just got in, who are we trying to buy of Seville ??
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If it was that easy you'd think he would already been doing it, he is after all 27 now not 18 or 19 and he has had a number of coaches already and in fact been tried in a number of different positions.
Personally I think he's far too slow in making decisions, hold the ball too long slowing our attacks, is indirect, meandering across the pitch whilst the opposition defenders get organised and offers little creativity and few goals
For me he has always flattered to deceive, the odd game when he shines can't hide the numerous games when he doesn't, a good player is good on a pretty consistent basis, Dembele is at best an average player who has the occasional good game
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We had 4 marquee players under Harry: VDV, Bale, Modric and Ledley and still weren't able to win anything
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As with all laws, they're open to interpretation, and until they're tested in court it's hard to say which interpretation is correct. As with Suarez and Arsenal last year, so with us and the Capel thing the other year, as the suitor clubs we'd have had to take the reluctant seller clubs to court, and that would have been prolonged, expensive, and ultimately may have been unproductive in several senses.
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Got
got pretty far in the CL tho.
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Totally agree we need more ball players in our CM area, but is Schneiderlin really that type of player? I only ask because I really didn't notice him too much last season. It was Lallana, Rodriguez and Lambet who most stood out for me.
I've been under the impression that Scnheirderlin is more of a DM who's passing is better than most in that position, but nothing more than that.
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Moreno is the player people are talking about, not sure if there's any new info linking us with him?
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It sounds again like we are being sensible. There is a ceiling you shouldn't go past for the sake of just bringing in an inflated priced lb. Rate Davies but he has a price!
Let's be blunt here...Every team has a LB so we could get a pretty solid list together. Sounds like it will be a non PL player now though - whether that's good or bad I dont know
Let's be blunt here...Every team has a LB so we could get a pretty solid list together. Sounds like it will be a non PL player now though - whether that's good or bad I dont know
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Kinda.. JJ replied to a tweet of mine
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He's not a pure creator, but he's a lot more about him than most DM's in terms of forward thinking passing. All depends how Poch envisages us playing I guess, but he's very good at picking those passes to start attacks...ie feeding the creative sparks in the team well.
I think he's a fantastic player and would be all for it if Poch wants him.
Kinda.. JJ replied to a tweet of mine
But his leg is broken no ?
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That's the Mexican!
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If I had my way...i'd go all out for Schneiderlin, Rodriguez, Schar and Griezmann and stick with the forwards we have.
Tad unrealistic lol, but they would be the players at the top of my list. Get us much as we can through sales and put it towards that lot!
Tad unrealistic lol, but they would be the players at the top of my list. Get us much as we can through sales and put it towards that lot!
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Different Moreno dude.. Alberto, the LB
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