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0-Tibsy-0

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Sandro One-dimensional for the Premier League? Rubbish! He's one of the best defensive midfielders in the League. He also offers an attacking edge. I really don't understand this kind of comment. Maybe there's another Sandro that people are talking about? It seems to me that that there's some kind of effort to poison supporters against Sandro. Has Sandro done something to upset Levy? Is his Agent bucking for a move and some cash?

Sandro is one of Spurs best players.

People have short memories and forget how effective he was before very serious injuries. The question is, can he recover fully and stay fit and hit that form again-we simply can't tell yet, I suspect even the coaches don't know. But I for one certainly hope he can. Before that long lay off he was at the time performing as our best player, including Gareth Bale in that too...
 

Gedson100

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Sandro is one of Spurs best players.

This is only true if his fitness is relatively assured.

We all saw the pictures of his knee & since his return he's failed to grab the faith of either AVB (who built his team around him originally) or Sherwood. He WAS awesome pre-knee injury but the jury is out as to whether he can or will ever be able to recreate that form & that alone, I think, is the reason we're thinking of moving him along. If he stays and is bit-part his value will decrease, but right now he's sellable at a good price. Football is ruthless, and if he's not gonna be able to contribute at his best then it probably is the best decision for us to sell.

To my mind he looked off the pace last season, he never got a run of games but still, when he did play he was prone to fouling and looked like he was almost trying too hard to make things work; and credit to him for that, as a man I have great respect for him, he looks a great laugh & has always had a brilliant relationship with the fans, but sadly, and purely down to that injury, his best may be in the past & someone like Schneiderlin is exactly what we need to fill the not inconsiderable void left behind by Sandro's decline.

In an ideal world he gets back to his best but all the circumstantial evidence suggests the club doesn't think that will happen. It's a shame, but then that's football sometimes.
 

0-Tibsy-0

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it's up there on splashing 17m on a midfielder for a good 60 minutes and 26m on a striker for two goals.

Which one of our strikers only scored 2 goals?

And I assume you mean Paulinho, and if you only saw a combined 60 mins of good football from him then you probably only watched the one game of ours last season.

Although judging by some of your views assuming that you watched one game is probably optimistic.
 

balalasaurus

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Sandro One-dimensional for the Premier League? Rubbish! He's one of the best defensive midfielders in the League. He also offers an attacking edge. I really don't understand this kind of comment. Maybe there's another Sandro that people are talking about? It seems to me that that there's some kind of effort to poison supporters against Sandro. Has Sandro done something to upset Levy? Is his Agent bucking for a move and some cash?

Sandro is one of Spurs best players.
Only one Sandro mate. The Sandro who isn't afraid to go in for the tackle. As commendable as that is, it does not a DM make. ESPECIALLY in the premier league. Sandro is good at breaking up play (not as good since his injury mind you). We all know that part if his game. What many fans fail to realize is that he offers very little in an attacking sense. His distribution after winning possession is often poor with his passes misplaced. He is also guilty of spending too much time on the ball limiting his options to move forward. If you actually pay attention to the attacking aspect of his game you also notice that when he does move forward he does so with a disregard of positioning which often puts him in a difficult position when possession is lost.

Like i said i admire his commitment to the club and cant fault him for that at all. The problem is a lot of people think loyalty is synonymous with skill. Thats how you get comments like "Sandro is one of Spurs best players." Objectively observe his game and you'll realize that he just doesn't fit in the prem.
 

Snarfalicious

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it's up there on splashing 17m on a midfielder for a good 60 minutes and 26m on a striker for two goals.

Can we get you your own thread to talk in circles? I'm not one to usually call out people, but Good Lord we understand your viewpoints on everything, simply because you bring up the same point in just about every thread you comment in.

You have valid points, I think most understand that, but it's been what? 15 pages now of it?
 

Jospur

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Only one Sandro mate. The Sandro who isn't afraid to go in for the tackle. As commendable as that is, it does not a DM make. ESPECIALLY in the premier league. Sandro is good at breaking up play (not as good since his injury mind you). We all know that part if his game. What many fans fail to realize is that he offers very little in an attacking sense. His distribution after winning possession is often poor with his passes misplaced. He is also guilty of spending too much time on the ball limiting his options to move forward. If you actually pay attention to the attacking aspect of his game you also notice that when he does move forward he does so with a disregard of positioning which often puts him in a difficult position when possession is lost.

Like i said i admire his commitment to the club and cant fault him for that at all. The problem is a lot of people think loyalty is synonymous with skill. Thats how you get comments like "Sandro is one of Spurs best players." Objectively observe his game and you'll realize that he just doesn't fit in the prem.

Can't agree with you. Sandro not only breaks up attacks he also creates chances going forward as well. He has an excellent shot and can pick a pass very well indeed.

Last season he recovered from his injury & was ready to play (he said so) but the coach (I forget his name) refused to play him.

I remember people on here slating Bale when he was on a losing run. I just hope that we don't rush a decision to get rid of a terrific talent that can grow so much more.

Sandro brings joy to Spurs supporters. That's the kind of player that should be kept!
 

Dirty Ewok

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eh?

oh you're referring to the fact that he scored two goals from open play last season, in which case i assume you're against the signing of everyone ever incase they're poor signings

never mind the fact you wanted sodding benteke instead who'd be even worse

may want to ditch the image or move over to whatever thread is more suited for the Soldado debate....
 
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balalasaurus

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Can't agree with you. Sandro not only breaks up attacks he also creates chances going forward as well. He has an excellent shot and can pick a pass very well indeed.

Last season he recovered from his injury & was ready to play (he said so) but the coach (I forget his name) refused to play him.

I remember people on here slating Bale when he was on a losing run. I just hope that we don't rush a decision to get rid of a terrific talent that can grow so much more.

Sandro brings joy to Spurs supporters. That's the kind of player that should be kept!
I cant tell if youre being serious or not in all honesty. If im not mistaken his pass accuracy is about mid 80s percentage wise (most of those are backwards or sideways). Hes scored what is it two goals for us in the past two seasons? Not to mention a shot accuracy of about 40 % or so. Hes not exactly that young either so the chances of him ever recovering from his knee injury are low (see Ledley King for a guide on knee injuries and their effects on footballers careers). Also in saying you can't remember who Tim Sherwood is i reiterate that i dont know whether to take you seriously or not. And if bringing joy to Spurs supporters qualifies being in the first team i suggest we promote chirpy.
 

Sandro30

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Arsenal are spending 4m on their new no2, someone who has no premier league experience...
 

spurs9

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I cant tell if youre being serious or not in all honesty. If im not mistaken his pass accuracy is about mid 80s percentage wise (most of those are backwards or sideways). Hes scored what is it two goals for us in the past two seasons? Not to mention a shot accuracy of about 40 % or so. Hes not exactly that young either so the chances of him ever recovering from his knee injury are low (see Ledley King for a guide on knee injuries and their effects on footballers careers). Also in saying you can't remember who Tim Sherwood is i reiterate that i dont know whether to take you seriously or not. And if bringing joy to Spurs supporters qualifies being in the first team i suggest we promote chirpy.
Sandro has the highest % of passes forward of any of our CM's and it is also higher than Schneiderlin's.
 

Archibald&Crooks

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Ok we're vetoing Sandro.

Can we auto delete any Vorm / Blake Griffin post?
Sandro is 6 squillion miles away from ITK. At least there's been some on Vorm. I haven't followed the thread that far back but if people are fed up doing the hokey cokey with that Griffin chap then not replying to his posts would be the place to start.
 

ItsBoris

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Sounds like our main targets are Davies and Schneiderlin and we'll probably get both. Pretty happy with that to be honest.

Ideally, I'd like us to also go for a flashy, skillful left winger as well - Griezmann, Depay, or the like, and sell Lennon/Dawson/Townsend/others to fund that transfer.
 
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