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Player watch: Toby Alderweireld

Hoopspur

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Easy solution. My proposal to smooth over the waters would be to agree to sell Southampton Kaboul and Vlad for a reduced combined fee of say £12m? That should sort it (y).
 

Ron Burgundy

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Kristof Terreur ‏@HLNinEngeland 10m10 minutes ago
When the deal is done, Spurs will be the first PL team to have 4 Belgians in their FIRST squad: Vertonghen, Chadli, Dembélé & Alderweireld.

I don't think it's fanciful to assume that, being a proud Belgian and wanting to further that record, Hazard will cancel his contract at Chelsea and join us for free.

He might not get in the side ahead of Townsend but there's a chance he could play a role as an impact sub. Nice bonus
 

voxy28

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If TA doesn't wants to sign for SOTON then whatever agreement between AM have no material impact. There is no basis to sue or complain AM.
 

Blockbuster

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I hope Toby does come, it's worrying to read he doesn't mind who he signs for? just asking for trouble.

Toby needs to state who he wants to sign one and it'll be over with.
 

Danners9

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I hope Toby does come, it's worrying to read he doesn't mind who he signs for? just asking for trouble.

Toby needs to state who he wants to sign one and it'll be over with.
It's just PR talk, needs to be open to both outcomes. I'm sure he has a preference.
 

Archibald&Crooks

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Telegraph

Southampton are ready to take legal action against Atletico Madrid should Tottenham Hotspur now be allowed to push ahead with a £11.5 million deal for Belgium defender Toby Alderweireld.

Spurs chairman Daniel Levy is understood to have been in Spain on Friday to negotiate directly with Madrid directors but Southampton remain certain they have a contract with Atletico that makes Alderweireld's season-long loan permanent for a fee of just under £7 million unless they are paid around £2 million to cancel that agreement.

Southampton have heard nothing from Atletico and so believe that, legally, their loan deal should now become permanent. If Atletico agree to the transfer of Alderweireld to Tottenham without resolving the situation, Southampton's lawyers will take immediate action. They would explore all avenues and are prepared to take the situation to both Fifa and the Football Association in the belief that they have a clear and binding contractual agreement with Atletico.

Southampton have still not given up hope of signing Alderwiereld and appreciate that his performances this season in the Premier League have elevated his value beyond £7 million. It is understood, however, that they would also be willing to pay over £11 million for the 26-year-old. Given the contract pay-off situation, this would theoretically mean that Tottenham would need to go close to £14 million to make their offer more financially attractive to the Spanish club. Whether Levy would sanction a deal at such an elevated price remains uncertain.
 

THFCSPURS19

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Telegraph

Southampton are ready to take legal action against Atletico Madrid should Tottenham Hotspur now be allowed to push ahead with a £11.5 million deal for Belgium defender Toby Alderweireld.

Spurs chairman Daniel Levy is understood to have been in Spain on Friday to negotiate directly with Madrid directors but Southampton remain certain they have a contract with Atletico that makes Alderweireld's season-long loan permanent for a fee of just under £7 million unless they are paid around £2 million to cancel that agreement.

Southampton have heard nothing from Atletico and so believe that, legally, their loan deal should now become permanent. If Atletico agree to the transfer of Alderweireld to Tottenham without resolving the situation, Southampton's lawyers will take immediate action. They would explore all avenues and are prepared to take the situation to both Fifa and the Football Association in the belief that they have a clear and binding contractual agreement with Atletico.

Southampton have still not given up hope of signing Alderwiereld and appreciate that his performances this season in the Premier League have elevated his value beyond £7 million. It is understood, however, that they would also be willing to pay over £11 million for the 26-year-old. Given the contract pay-off situation, this would theoretically mean that Tottenham would need to go close to £14 million to make their offer more financially attractive to the Spanish club. Whether Levy would sanction a deal at such an elevated price remains uncertain.
Even if Southampton think he is legally and officially their player, he can still refuse to sign the contract.
 

Danfunkel

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Getting him here is a smart move. Let him see the training centre, the staff, manager etc and hook him into the "project", and all he then has to say is he wants to join us. Then no amount of legal action matters.
 

voxy28

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Again SOTON only pursue the issue base on the contract between the clubs. However this does not cover the personal contract with Toby. To enable a transfer, personal terms must be agreed as well which is not the case.

Toby may choose to stay at AM and fight for his place..... I think their legal team is just trying to milk more consultation fee lol.
 

Syn_13

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Telegraph

Southampton are ready to take legal action against Atletico Madrid should Tottenham Hotspur now be allowed to push ahead with a £11.5 million deal for Belgium defender Toby Alderweireld.

Spurs chairman Daniel Levy is understood to have been in Spain on Friday to negotiate directly with Madrid directors but Southampton remain certain they have a contract with Atletico that makes Alderweireld's season-long loan permanent for a fee of just under £7 million unless they are paid around £2 million to cancel that agreement.

Southampton have heard nothing from Atletico and so believe that, legally, their loan deal should now become permanent. If Atletico agree to the transfer of Alderweireld to Tottenham without resolving the situation, Southampton's lawyers will take immediate action. They would explore all avenues and are prepared to take the situation to both Fifa and the Football Association in the belief that they have a clear and binding contractual agreement with Atletico.

Southampton have still not given up hope of signing Alderwiereld and appreciate that his performances this season in the Premier League have elevated his value beyond £7 million. It is understood, however, that they would also be willing to pay over £11 million for the 26-year-old. Given the contract pay-off situation, this would theoretically mean that Tottenham would need to go close to £14 million to make their offer more financially attractive to the Spanish club. Whether Levy would sanction a deal at such an elevated price remains uncertain.

That last part is surely a load of bollocks.

If Sotton have a legal right to buy him for £7m then why on earth would they offer more? If Atletico haven't paid them the release fee from the clause then they don't need to pay extra.

It's clear cut from where I'm standing. Either they have first refusal and it's up to the player. If he doesn't want to go there then their clause means shit. Or Atletico paid up in time and that's where a bidding war will ensue, again, providing he doesn't turn them down.
 

WiganSpur

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If TA doesn't wants to sign for SOTON then whatever agreement between AM have no material impact. There is no basis to sue or complain AM.
That's the impression I get.

AM don't want to pay out the £2m because they probably know or must have been told he will choose us anyway even though they have to accept both offers. It seems as though they're doing all they can to make sure he signs for us which is what any club would do.

If they know that he'd sign for us then why would they pay Saints the £2m? All that does is give them the right to agree a fee of £6.8m, not prevent anyone else from coming in surely?
 

voxy28

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That's the impression I get.

AM don't want to pay out the £2m because they probably know or must have been told he will choose us anyway even though they have to accept both offers. It seems as though they're doing all they can to make sure he signs for us which is what any club would do.

If they know that he'd sign for us then why would they pay Saints the £2m? All that does is give them the right to agree a fee of £6.8m, not prevent anyone else from coming in surely?

Yup this is the case and got nothing to do with us. So having such a clause is one thing but actual execution is another given the complexity of player transfer incl agents fee etc.
 

LexingtonSpurs

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Interesting reading Saints board - they think Atletico is/was skint, and did not have the money to pay the buyout clause until Spurs came in with their offer.

I wonder if we had to loan them some money prior to the transfer being completed to pay off the buyout, to allow AM to complete the sale.
 

Danners9

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Interesting reading Saints board - they think Atletico is/was skint, and did not have the money to pay the buyout clause until Spurs came in with their offer.

I wonder if we had to loan them some money prior to the transfer being completed to pay off the buyout, to allow AM to complete the sale.

their finances seem quite shady. Mountains of debt but they just signed Jackson Martinez and Vietto. Today they are linked with Abdennour of Monaco.

They are about to sell Arda Turan, so that will balance a bit of the spending.
 
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