Bruno Fernandes

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Dirtysanchez6 said:

English version ?

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From google translate, so not great...

Tottenham is also negotiating Betis' Lo Celso and may even hire the Argentine and the Portuguese if Eriksen's departure to Manchester United is confirmed. SAD has only offer from London training.

Tottenham coach Mauricio Pochettino has put Bruno Fernandes at the top of his preferences to bolster the spurs' offensive midfield. The Argentine has internally expressed the desire to count on the Leonino captain and has struggled to have him, however, according to the GAME found, this may not be enough for the proposal presented to be improved and reach the value desired by the governing cast led by Frederico Balconies This holds firm even in the face of the pressure and financial need that society has to sell. A deadlock has come.

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This is due to the fact that those responsible for the London emblem believe that the proposal, which is structured at € 45 million (M €) fixed and € 15 M, is appropriate to the value of Bruno Fernandes. € 70M set as a bar by the green and white SAD to negotiate the jersey 8. Yesterday, our newspaper learns, the clubs concerned did not maintain any contact through the business intermediaries, which does not mean that it fell, this after an intense search for consensus last Saturday, which eventually did not lead to an understanding.

At the same time, Tottenham are trading in Bettis midfielder Lo Celso and will have even formulated an offer of 52 M € in cash and another 8 M € in variables, precisely the limit of what the spurs currently want to shell out for Bruno Fernandes. . It should be said, however, that Tottenham could even move on to the acquisition of the two midfielders and incorporate them, if the possible transfer of Eriksen to Manchester United is consummated, a formation that denied the English Press that it was prepared to move forward by Bruno. Fernandes. It is certain that the transfer window in England closes next Thursday and at this time only Tottenham has submitted a firm offer.

BringBack_leGin said:

I’d prefer Lo Celso, but if Pochettino has said he’d be happy with Bruno instead then I’m all for it.

If it’s one of these two plus Coutinho then I’ll personslly begin building a statue of Baldy to replace the golden cockerel!

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this isn't the legalise drugs thread

rossdapep said:

Why? Cause his ex-coach thinks he deserves to?

What if United aren't in for him? What if Fernandes thinks the best move for him is Tottenham? Not saying he won't go there but that is just an opinion piece.

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Now that I'm reading the article again, I might have pulled the trigger too fast

The first sentence says that Manuel Fernandes (a guy that has inside info about Sporting) is sure that BF will go to utd.
However, when they quote him, it is not 100% clear if he means that BF will go to utd.

Btw, the portuguese media reported today that BF already agreed terms with utd, it might bluff though.

Khilari said:

My Portuguese work buddy is a Sporting fan and so watches them when he can. For context however it is important to point out that he, like the other Portuguese fans I work with (there are 6 in my department) has an overinflated opinion of all Portuguese players (e.g. Nani etc).

He thinks Bruno Fernandes is a "good" player who had a brilliant season. Some of his goals were penalties and many from in and around the box. However when asking him to compare Fernandes to other Sporting players, he doesn't really put him in the same bracket as the really good ones. He doesn't know if BF would be effective in the Premier League as the Portuguese league offers a lot more time and space than the EPL.

And at the prices being quoted, he thinks Sporting would be mental not to accept a bid of over €30m.

So basically BF is a good player who had a great season but he's not a standout player like Sporting have had in the past. Doesn't mean he can't go on to be superb of course... and this is all one person's opinion.

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Sporting would be mental to accept something near €30M in the current market. As reference, transfermarkt rates him at €55M.

He was very good in 2017/2018 and brilliant in 2018/2019, in both he was awarded player of the season. it's not just a player who had a brilliant season.

Surely if we were actually singing these guys it wouldn't be so quiet

the yid said:

Surely if we were actually singing these guys it wouldn't be so quiet

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No you’re right, surely we’d be hearing some vocals

BF has so many red flags attached to him.

Could come off but he's the only one I don't want to pay over the odds for.

Sweech said:

BF has so many red flags attached to him.

Could come off but he's the only one I don't want to pay over the odds for.

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What red flags? Honest question.

Johnny J said:

What red flags? Honest question.

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There's a lot of talk about him not suiting the physicality which I guess is a concern but not my main one.

My concern is the nerdy stats side when looking at his passing %. He's basically being used as the quintessential "luxury player" where he's been allowed to look for hollywood balls all the time and the side don't mind that he gives the ball away A LOT and lacks defensive discipline when going forwards as well so a lot of his attacking results are very inflated.

He won't be able to do any of that here. Could Poch change up his game and get good work out of him? Sure. Do we know what that will end up like? Not really. So it's a lot of red flags and concerning.

Someone like Coutinho or Lo Celso bring a lot more to the game all around and are therefore less concerning.

Sweech said:

There's a lot of talk about him not suiting the physicality which I guess is a concern but not my main one.

My concern is the nerdy stats side when looking at his passing %. He's basically being used as the quintessential "luxury player" where he's been allowed to look for hollywood balls all the time and the side don't mind that he gives the ball away A LOT and lacks defensive discipline when going forwards as well so a lot of his attacking results are very inflated.

He won't be able to do any of that here. Could Poch change up his game and get good work out of him? Sure. Do we know what that will end up like? Not really. So it's a lot of red flags and concerning.

Someone like Coutinho or Lo Celso bring a lot more to the game all around and are therefore less concerning.

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I agree that his stats from last season are inflated cause he took the role of star player, but he doesn't behave as a diva on the pitch. defensively, he works a lot for the team and I disagree that he lacks discipline.

Besides the inflated stats/role my major concerns are the lack of 1 vs 1 flair and the fact that he has not proved himself at top level.

So if our formation looks something like.

Kane
Son Dele Moura
Winks N’Dombele

Where does this guy play? Similar to Dele? Can he cover wide like Moura/son.

yawa said:

So if our formation looks something like.

Kane
Son Dele Moura
Winks N’Dombele

Where does this guy play? Similar to Dele? Can he cover wide like Moura/son.

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Think he'll take the Dele role but can operate in Ndombeles, although I think he'd find it hard in the PL in the latter.

yawa said:

So if our formation looks something like.

Kane
Son Dele Moura
Winks N’Dombele

Where does this guy play? Similar to Dele? Can he cover wide like Moura/son.

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Would most likely play the most attacking role in a midfield 3 alongside N’dombele/Sissoko and Winks/Dier, or the Dele “10” role in the 4-2-3-1. Just looking at that lineup shows our criminal lack of depth though to be honest, especially if we lose Eriksen. Gonna be a very tough season.

Kraji said:

I agree that his stats from last season are inflated cause he took the role of star player, but he doesn't behave as a diva on the pitch. defensively, he works a lot for the team and I disagree that he lacks discipline.

Besides the inflated stats/role my major concerns are the lack of 1 vs 1 flair and the fact that he has not proved himself at top level.

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Defensively and discipline wise he's well short from Lo Celso and still short of Coutinho. I also count discipline as how much he gives the ball away.

Sweech said:

Defensively and discipline wise he's well short from Lo Celso and still short of Coutinho. I also count discipline as how much he gives the ball away.

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Yeah he isnt a player you can depend on to control games. Tends to drift in and out and doesn't have the presence to run games or the ability to always keep the ball under tight pressure. That's not to say he can't do some of these aspects it's just he won't have the consistency.

I've seen both Lo Celso and Fernandes live now - Lo Celso stood out and I noted he was a player who could maintain possession in tight spaces and work angles in these spaces. I didn't see any of that in Fernandes, he passed the ball excellently but he had time and space.

Lo Celso will be a success I'm sure. Fernandes could go either way.

DONOS10 said:

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We never do the expected! ??

Who: The Goat
Where: SC
When: 6th August

The Goat hears there's a medical for Fernandes tomorrow and another set for a 'big one' on Thursday.

NOTE: The Goat wasn't told the identity of the 'big one' so guessing seems a bit pointless, we're all aware of the names it could be, it'll add nothing and just clog the place up, so take it at face along with your salt, just accept it as positive news.

I am SO CONFUSED