Tottenham want £39m Jean-Clair Todibo in January

[mawspurs]

Tottenham have joined the race to sign Nice defender Jean-Clair Todibo, as they prepare to enter the transfer market for a new centre-back in January.

Spurs are desperate for defensive reinforcements and are ready to rival Manchester United and Liverpool for France international Todibo.

Source: Evening Standard

 

[Impspur1]

This would a real coup and gives us three top quality CBs…… therefore probably won’t happen

 

[Chedozie]

Why’s he so cheap?

 

[VoteMe4Prez]

Can we be allowed to make signings now given what's happened to us?

 

[Locotoro]

Why’s he so cheap?

Because he's injury prone. This guy genuinely reminds me Ledley. He's real quality but his injury record is Ledley quality too

 

[FloridaSpur]

Obligatory video.

One thing's for sure he has more pace than Dier or Davies so that's a start....

 

[Neon_Knight_]

Because he's injury prone. This guy genuinely reminds me Ledley. He's real quality but his injury record is Ledley quality too

Just looked up his injury history and apparently he hasn't been injured for over 3 years. He played 40+ games in each of his last two seasons.

I don't consider that to be the reocrd of someone who is "injury prone".

I also don't consider £39m to be cheap. It's similar to what we paid for VDV and look how that turned out.

 

[Neon_Knight_]

Obligatory video.

One thing's for sure he has more pace than Dier or Davies so that's a start....

I'm not going to judge how good he is from highlights, but he at least appears to be the right profile of CB for our current system (quick, confident on the ball etc.).

 

[yid-down-under]

Why’s he so cheap?

Because his current club are nice and want to sell him to us

 

[Locotoro]

Just looked up his injury history and apparently he hasn't been injured for over 3 years. He played 40+ games in each of his last two seasons.

I don't consider that to be the reocrd of someone who is "injury prone".

I also don't consider £39m to be cheap. It's similar to what we paid for VDV and look how that turned out.

Lets not forget that King also had periods where his injury record didnt look so bad earlier in his career however as I understand there are concerns over Todibo's long term viability resulting from being hit by a car earlier in his life.

With Ledley there wasnt really a way to predict that his knee's would be gone before he even turned 30 but i think with current advances in sports science there are ways of predicting these things.

Todibo is potenially a Van Dyke level defender but there is a reason he's not at a elite club

 

[Locotoro]

The other point to make is that playing in the EPL brings into sharp focus ANY physical weakness that any player has. He will be experiencing thunderous tackles and physicality that he hasn't experienced before so we have to be certain his body will hold up otherwise we'll end up with another Gio - a really good player that we barely see play because he constantly gets injured

 

[Neon_Knight_]

Lets not forget that King also had periods where his injury record didnt look so bad earlier in his career however as I understand there are concerns over Todibo's long term viability resulting from being hit by a car earlier in his life.

With Ledley there wasnt really a way to predict that his knee's would be gone before he even turned 30 but i think with current advances in sports science there are ways of predicting these things.

Todibo is potenially a Van Dyke level defender but there is a reason he's not at a elite club

King wasn't "injury prone". His cartilage was ruined by a disgusting tackle on his debut, when he was only 18 or 19, and he played through the rest of his career with a chronic condition. His lack of cartilage meant his knee became severely inflamed every time he played / trained, which meant he couldn't train much and regularly missed matches while he waited for the inflammation to reduce. He didn't become injured on each occasion - he was carrying a permanent injury that would have been expected to worsen as his career went on. He was presumably shutting out considerable pain during all 343 matches that followed his debut. The soft tissue injuries during his latter years were probably a result of his Most people would have retired long before he did, so continuing to perform as a world-class CB until 31 (and then only retiring because AVB insisted he needed to be able to train every day and regularly compete in two matches per week), was pretty miraculous. Plenty of players go down hill by the age of 31 without any chronic injuries, but King was still competing at elite level up to his last game.

Todibo's situation doesn't share any obvious parallels to King's. He had a cluster of minor injuries when he was aged 19-20, but has since been fit and healthy for over 3 years. It's quite common for young players to have soft tissue injuries, while their body is still developing and they are being exposed to the physicality of senior football.
The car crash happened when he was 9 years old. If there are concerning long-term impacts of this, surely Barcelona would have picked this up during a medical when they signed him 10 years later.

 

[Col_M]

Can we be allowed to make signings now given what's happened to us?

Being beaten by Wolves and Villa doesn't make us ineligible to buy players. so We're good there.

 

[Neon_Knight_]

The other point to make is that playing in the EPL brings into sharp focus ANY physical weakness that any player has. He will be experiencing thunderous tackles and physicality that he hasn't experienced before so we have to be certain his body will hold up otherwise we'll end up with another Gio - a really good player that we barely see play because he constantly gets injured

We certainly don't want to sign Varane Mk II.

 

[Neon_Knight_]

Being beaten by Wolves and Villa doesn't make us ineligible to buy players. so We're good there.

I think @VoteMe4Prez meant "now" as in right now, like how some teams are granted an exception to sign a GK outside of a transfer window.

Although we have three CBs out currently, we have two CBs with first-team playing experience out on loan (Rodon & Tanganga), so it would seem reasonable for the PL to expect us to recall one of them. Also, Romero is only suspended for one more game.

 

[Col_M]

I think @VoteMe4Prez meant "now" as in right now, like how some teams are granted an exception to sign a GK outside of a transfer window.

Although we have three CBs out currently, we have two CBs with first-team playing experience out on loan (Rodon & Tanganga), so it would seem reasonable for the PL to expect us to recall one of them. Also, Romero is only suspended for one more game.

does he think we’re Arsenal and we can cry for an exemption ? We have a sniffly nose, we need to postpone all our games u til after AfCon

 

[VoteMe4Prez]

I was being somewhat sarcastic

 

[Locotoro]

King wasn't "injury prone". His cartilage was ruined by a disgusting tackle on his debut, when he was only 18 or 19, and he played through the rest of his career with a chronic condition. His lack of cartilage meant his knee became severely inflamed every time he played / trained, which meant he couldn't train much and regularly missed matches while he waited for the inflammation to reduce. He didn't become injured on each occasion - he was carrying a permanent injury that would have been expected to worsen as his career went on. He was presumably shutting out considerable pain during all 343 matches that followed his debut. The soft tissue injuries during his latter years were probably a result of his Most people would have retired long before he did, so continuing to perform as a world-class CB until 31 (and then only retiring because AVB insisted he needed to be able to train every day and regularly compete in two matches per week), was pretty miraculous. Plenty of players go down hill by the age of 31 without any chronic injuries, but King was still competing at elite level up to his last game.

Todibo's situation doesn't share any obvious parallels to King's. He had a cluster of minor injuries when he was aged 19-20, but has since been fit and healthy for over 3 years. It's quite common for young players to have soft tissue injuries, while their body is still developing and they are being exposed to the physicality of senior football.
The car crash happened when he was 9 years old. If there are concerning long-term impacts of this, surely Barcelona would have picked this up during a medical when they signed him 10 years later.

I believe it's something to do with his running gait or running style caused by hip misalignment that caused him considerable problems when he stopped growing and is expected to be an issue later in his career.

Don't get me wrong, I think he's top quality and make probably a first 3 CB as good as anyone in the league behind City. But I worry if the Premier League will be too much for him.