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Should Poch stay or go?

  • Stay

    Votes: 657 55.3%
  • Go

    Votes: 532 44.7%

  • Total voters
    1,189

13VanDerBale13

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Jul 12, 2011
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We are picking up a lot of draws lately, I think his next loss in the League will be his last game (if we haven't won a league game before then)
 

nigespurs

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Jul 10, 2011
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This actually shocked me. If you take out 86pts in 16/17. Then 4 of his completed 5 seasons have an average of 70pts. That’s only 2 pts better than the 5 seasons before he arrived.

And if he didn't have Harry Kane come through when he did and was relying on Sodaldo and Janssen to score goals we'd have ended the seasons in the same place as Redknapp did.
 

nigespurs

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Jul 10, 2011
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Next weekend we lose to West Ham,
Everton beat Norwich at home,
Villa beat Newcastle at home

We'll be one place above the relegation zone.
 
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coys200

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May 22, 2017
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well if you’re being selective to support your view, why not just take out all the ones you don’t like?

maybe just use the first season and this season?

It’s 80% of his tenure is 2 pts above our previous average. Hardly like I’ve excluded a huge lump. I excluded 1 season.
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coys200

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May 22, 2017
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It’s 80% of his tenure is 2 pts above our previous average. Hardly like I’ve excluded a huge lump. I excluded 1 season
 

yankspurs

Enic Out
Aug 22, 2013
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We are picking up a lot of draws lately, I think his next loss in the League will be his last game (if we haven't won a league game before then)
The problem is, we have to look at performances. A draw or loss next match then he has to go. We’ve kept him longer than we should have already. A win and we still look awful, i’d argue he should still go. Yes the season is now a write off but we could still maybe have a go. The players dont look remotely interested to get up for anything now with Poch and they are dragging us down. We cant sack the lot of them so we have to side with them in order to stay up.

Then a massive clear out begins. Sell a few, let the freebies go, maybe bite the bullett and release a few if we have to. Levy really fucked up badly and created this issue. Instead of investing every year and refreshing we now have to drop a massive amount of money in 2 windows to replace 6+ players AND improve in other areas. Its going to require him to fork up the extra cash to get players in january that would cost less in the summer too. There is no way we can keep on this season with a few certain players constantly getting games.
 
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$hoguN

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Jul 25, 2005
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It’s not about if the next game is a draw or a loss. We are clearly disjointed due to his tactics, training and ineffective in game management. Players have lost faith. He is being a twat in interviews. He needs to go.
 
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Shadydan

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Jul 7, 2012
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This actually shocked me. If you take out 86pts in 16/17. Then 4 of his completed 5 seasons have an average of 70pts. That’s only 2 pts better than the 5 seasons before he arrived.

This points thing again, doesn't matter how many different ways you want to twist it, it's wrong, you can't use that barometer to judge performances across seasons...how many times, fucking hell :LOL:
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Nov 15, 2018
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It’s about if the next game is a draw or a loss. We are clearly disjointed due to his tactics, training and ineffective in game management. Players have lost faith. He is being a twat in interviews. He needs to go.
He is defiantly being a twat in interviews lol. For me if we lose to West Ham he has to go.
 

coys200

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May 22, 2017
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This points thing again, doesn't matter how many different ways you want to twist it, it's wrong, you can't use that barometer to judge performances across seasons...how many times, fucking hell :LOL:

Of course you can. Most managers judge progress on points not position it’s far more accurate guide of progress. That’s why 15/16 finishing on 70 pts and calling it a title challenge was a complete farce it wouldn’t even get you top 4 most seasons. It was a complete freak season and had Liverpool United chelsea not been having meltdown he may well have been sacked that season.
 

Spurs_Bear

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Jan 7, 2009
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Of course you can. Most managers judge progress on points not position it’s far more accurate guide of progress. That’s why 15/16 finishing on 70 pts and calling it a title challenge was a complete farce it wouldn’t even get you top 4 most seasons. It was a complete freak season and had Liverpool United chelsea not been having meltdown he may well have been sacked that season.

My fucking sainted trousers.
 

rabbikeane

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Mar 29, 2005
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And Sherwood 59%, What is your point ?

Sherwood 50%
Point? That Pochettino's poor form now is so low and lasting that it up against his good years now have come to he point that his overall results aren't as good as AVBs. It's just a fact, ignore or reflect, your choice
 

Trotter

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Jan 30, 2009
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Sherwood 50%
Point? That Pochettino's poor form now is so low and lasting that it up against his good years now have come to he point that his overall results aren't as good as AVBs. It's just a fact, ignore or reflect, your choice

Again, only if you include Cup Competitions, which means Poch has been playing the likes of Barca, Real, Bayern, Juve etc. as opposed to the likes of FC Farmers Reserves, which obviously is a little bit harder, unless you have an axe to grind, and want to manipulate things, which you obviously do,.

In League stats are

Sherwood 59.0%
Poch 55.9%
AVB 53.7%

And the reason we have been playing the likes of Barca rather than some of the dross in Europa which we did under AVB is actually because we have a better League Record under Poch than AVB.
 

Tottenhamboy85

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Aug 16, 2018
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Of course you can. Most managers judge progress on points not position it’s far more accurate guide of progress. That’s why 15/16 finishing on 70 pts and calling it a title challenge was a complete farce it wouldn’t even get you top 4 most seasons. It was a complete freak season and had Liverpool United chelsea not been having meltdown he may well have been sacked that season.
Eh? It’s not based on irrelevant other seasons it’s based on the season that was relevant at the time.

It’s like saying you win the league on 75pts but can’t call it a winning title because the past season it wouldn’t have won.
 

Trotter

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Jan 30, 2009
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70 pts would not have got us top 4 in 5 of last 10 seasons so not that funny.

You and your banging on about points is ridiculous.
Only relevant if all teams that you play are exactly the same, and exactly the same strength from season to season.
But guess what, there is promotion and relegation, teams improve and regress, you cannot compare points, only positions
Totally and utterly irrelevant, only used by those that want to manipulate things to suit their side of an argument. (Similar to your twitter Poch has spent more than Klopp bollocks, which only happens to be true if you make lots of caveats)
 
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