Yeah, I was curious to find the statistics because I remember like 2 or 3 giveaways but that was it. Really didn't understand why so many were jumping all over him for it acting like it was every other pass.
Just the usual 'this is what we think of Dier as a DM, so we will form our post match opinion before a ball has been kicked and stick to it in the face of all reason'.
It’s not the amount of times he gives the ball away. It’s the manner in which he does and the area he does it in. It’s often a 5 yard pass that he takes far too long to complete or it’s him being caught in possession because he’s too slow on the ball. He often gets away with it against the smaller teams but against the top sides I really dread to see him in there because he gets pressed and it’s a disaster. I want someone that’s good enough to go toe to toe with the top midfielders in the league and I’m sorry I just don’t think he’s nearly good enough
Heres the double standard that I don't understand. Everyone saying Serge had a good game, yet had two worse/more dangerous give aways than Dier did. Diers two give aways if BBLG's stats are correct, one was when we were breaking and in WH's half so not great but not disastrous. The other was a misplaced pass to Lucas that went out for a throw in.
You’re fine to make those points but I’d like to point out that at no point did I mention Berge (didn’t see the match you mention) or ever have. I didn’t mention yesterday’s match either. I’m talking about Dier as a player in general. There’s nothing knee jerk about what I’m saying, I have thought he’s been extremely poor for about 2 to 3 years now. We can and should be doing better. I don’t want to settle for a player that to me is just absolutely no where near the level of the top DM’s in the league. Fabinho, Kante, Ndidi, Rodri, Fernandinho.. he’s absolutely nowhere near their level!
Indeed. But he played before that. And do you remember our play before our results got concerning to everyone ie before it got so evident it could no longer be ignored even by the dimmest of the bunch? We were a shit long-balling team all of last season. The football was awful but folks kept reminding us about our best start ever, points-wise. The football was truly awful. We were hoping on Dembele coming back to help the MF that Dier was manning.
He player 13 out of 17 games ending at the Leicester game that we won 0-2. You remember that game? We got hammered and somehow got outta there with a 2 goal win. It was robbery. We were shit before the truly relegation form ie when you and most noticed. It's not my fault you were able to notice before that.
Honestly, I probably agree with this. But he's gotta stay behind the ball. He cannot play in 360* and many times on Saturday he was ahead of Winks. He is just not mobile nor aware enough to be in those spaces. He can't do anything with the ball so he clogs the play.
