Match Threads Spurs vs Manchester United - Match Thread - Day 30

rossdapep · Jun 19, 2020

SargeantMeatCurtains said:
There was nothing wrong with the system we played today. Lamela, whilst he played well enough, was so, so wasteful in the final third. Put Lo Celso or Ndombele there and it’s a different story. Likewise, if Kane actually bothered to play today, I honestly think we would’ve been 2/3-0 up in this match. We looked comfortable for a large chunk of the game.

Completely agree and I'm a little frustrated others aren't seeing it.

Numerous occasions we had a great break on only for a player to lack the sharpness to move it into the right space.

United defended poorly and had that been Bayern they'd have won with a clear difference.

Maguire was getting real tight to Kane and pressing high, if Kane had have had match sharpness I'm certain he'd have exploited it more and Lindelhof was all over the place.

Bergwijn' s goal was a prime example of the errors that were there. Unfortunately we lacked the sharpness and options to take advantage.

freeeki · Jun 19, 2020

worcestersauce said:
Be honest we'd have given out right arm for that point on March 15th

Or at 7pm this evening

Spartan Spurs · Jun 19, 2020

Roberts84 said:
Apart from the goal did we have a shot on target? I can’t recall one which is shameful

De Gea made a nice save on Son's header. Can't think of another.

Just don't like the sitting back & welcoming pressure style of play.
11 men behind the ball.

holsten777 · Jun 19, 2020

thebenjamin said:
Ndombele must be finished here realistically.

I think he can turn it around. You just don't know what goes on behind the scenes. If you were playing on the same team though you must get pretty fucked off watching people ambling around making half arsed attempts to chase down the opposition and win the ball back. I hope he starts to apply himself, would be unreal player if he did.

Phomesy · Jun 19, 2020

Col_M said:
He did. He let Pogba get past him, That was the first mistake and then he tried the arm lock

But that's not what happened. Pogba grabs Dier's arm. Do you even watch this shit?

Baffling. You're so certain it's a clear pen but get the basic facts of what happened wrong. It's only been replayed a billion times ffs :ROFLMAO:

C0YS · Jun 19, 2020

glacierSpurs said:
Like I have mentioned in Kane thread, his poor showing already started at the end of last season, continuing to this, even when Poch was here. You wouldn't think he could have chased every ball from the front and stormed through those defence and scored and proved to the gaffers his ability is way more effective than drawing defences out for the wide players to play? I would. But whether he can or still wanna do that is another matter. And only he has the answer.

I'm not sure he can make that decision.

But the problem is, I think what you are asking from him is just not something a 26 year old with a bad ankle is able to do anymore. It is just not the most effective use of his talents. He still works hard, he just isn't a fit 22 year old anymore.

shelfboy68 · Jun 19, 2020

bubble07 said:
The fans that lie that they didn't watch the game and didn't know the result is certainty back

Really in my house was you let me explain again mate I didn't watch the game, is that enough for you or am I still lying.
?

SargeantMeatCurtains · Jun 19, 2020

Phomesy said:
But that's not what happened. Pogba grabs Dier's arm. Do you even watch this shit?

Baffling. You're so certain it's a clear pen but get the basic facts of what happened wrong. It's only been replayed a billion times ffs

Watch Pogba’s left foot as well. He limply drags it looking for contact then gets caught in the turf and trips himself up.

1882andallthat · Jun 19, 2020

I think some of the comments on this thread tonight have been way over the top, anyone reading them would have thought we'd been beaten 4-0 at home, and were awful in defence.
I think a bit of context and perspective is needed.
That was the first game back after 3 months and I didn't see the shambolic defending that I was seeing before lockdown with errors all over the place.

Granted Kane was well off the pace, but FFS that was his first game back after 6 months out. What did we really expect ?
United were not there for the taking and had an extremely strong line up and bench.

Not our best performance but by no means our worst. We battled well and drew against a team who will probably win most of their remaining games.

dontcallme · Jun 19, 2020

1882andallthat said:
I think some of the comment on this thread tonight have been way over the top, anyone reading them would have though we'd been beaten 4-0 at home, and were awful in defence.
I think a bit of context and perspective is needed.
That was the first game back after 3 months and I didn't see the shambolic defending that I was seeing before lockdown.
Granted Kane was well off the pace, but FFS that was his first game back after 6 months out. What did we really expect ?
United were not there for the taking and had an extremely strong line up and bench.

Not our best performance but by no means our worst. We battled well and drew with a team who will probably win most of their remaining ab
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This is what match threads are though.

SpursSince1980 · Jun 19, 2020

cjbyid said:
The pogba obsession sky have is weird.

Of course he looked good when he came on, we weren't pressing him. The guy had tonnes of space

Yes, same listening here in the States. I could practically hear them unzipping their pants when he came on... and when he got them the penalty it was absolute wankfest.

DiVaio · Jun 19, 2020

thebenjamin said:
Ndombele must be finished here realistically.

First game after 3 months, half of the team must be finished here when 3 subs weren't made for some reason. Chill

homer hotspur · Jun 19, 2020

1882andallthat said:
I think some of the comments on this thread tonight have been way over the top, anyone reading them would have thought we'd been beaten 4-0 at home, and were awful in defence.
I think a bit of context and perspective is needed.
That was the first game back after 3 months and I didn't see the shambolic defending that I was seeing before lockdown with errors all over the place.

Granted Kane was well off the pace, but FFS that was his first game back after 6 months out. What did we really expect ?
United were not there for the taking and had an extremely strong line up and bench.

Not our best performance but by no means our worst. We battled well and drew against a team who will probably win most of their remaining games.

thebenjamin · Jun 19, 2020

holsten777 said:
I think he can turn it around. You just don't know what goes on behind the scenes. If you were playing on the same team though you must get pretty fucked off watching people ambling around making half arsed attempts to chase down the opposition and win the ball back. I hope he starts to apply himself, would be unreal player if he did.

If you can't get on the pitch when there are five subs allowed and every player on the pitch is blowing out of their arse, it's time to accept reality. The coach doesn't want you.

spursfan77 · Jun 19, 2020

I just noticed if arsenal win tomorrow they go above us. That’s embarrassing. Another reason why we had to win.

Saying that, we looked better than before the break. Who knows what will happen but we have to be more proactive.

We were much more aggressive and physical tonight though. A bit more bite in the tackle at last.

razzmaster · Jun 19, 2020

hughy said:
So do we know if Lucas is fit for Tuesday? If so I'd seriously consider resting Kane and bringing him on as a sub for 30 minutes a game until he's match fit.

I love the guy as much as everyone else, but if him starting is going to be to the detriment of the team, like it was tonight, I'd rather we eased him back in. His time will come but it wasn't tonight, and it won't be on Tuesday.

We need to stop being the Harry Kane team as it is doing us more harm than good

homer hotspur · Jun 19, 2020

I think what the match did confirm is that it is very unlikely we will be making a run to 5th place.

Phomesy · Jun 19, 2020

SargeantMeatCurtains said:
Watch Pogba’s left foot as well. He limply drags it looking for contact then gets caught in the turf and trips himself up.

Yeah - that's why I said early doors I couldn't see where the foul was.

It's because there's very little contact and no foul. It's not a penalty.

Utterly bizarre that SPurs fans are acting like it is. I think it's because Dier gets done by the skill and you're expecting the rash challenge and pull back on the shoulder. But the video evidence clearly shows Pogba initiates the arm contact and the collision of legs is not from any "challenge" by Dier but accidental at best (prompted by Pogba at worst)

Very very soft. Dier has been very harshly dealt with by the ref there.

ardiles&villa · Jun 19, 2020

hutchiniho said:
Spurs vs Utd at the Lane 2017 coming in now.
Let’s wat h this one instead !

It’s really making me upset

NEVILLEB · Jun 19, 2020

freeeki said:
He’s literally quantified it by saying he was talking about attacking players.

Stop hearing what you want to hear.

I assume you’ve been as vocal about Jose’s public support for Ndombele this week?

Ndombele is an attacking player. He offers nothing in defence.

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