Player Watch: Serge Aurier

dagraham · Aug 12, 2020

Univarn said:
Not from DanKP who I believe is on vacation so apply salt accordingly,

AC Milan £9m short of Tottenham valuation in Aurier talks

Tottenham and AC Milan are still £9million apart in their valuation of Serge Aurier.

www.standard.co.uk

If an agreement can’t be reached let’s hope it doesn’t prevent us buying another decent RB.

emiley heskey · Aug 12, 2020

20m plus add ons will do it or see what monaco or marsellei can offer ... Serge always wants to move to france ... May be we can swap him with keita balde

hellava_tough · Aug 12, 2020

wrd said:
£13 Mill for a RB who has consistently started in the prem the previous season with experience also at PSG is a bit of a joke tbh. They need to seriously up that bid.

See this is where I think we go wrong, to be honest.

If he goes for 13m, we'll be able to bring a RB in for 25m. Which basically means we'll have signed a DCM and a RB, both whom the manager wants, both ready for preseason, for 15m.

That's good business and planning imo.

In the past we've had players on the books for seasons at a time, costing us weekly and decreasing in value as time goes by. Just get rid of them and move on.

JUSTINSIGNAL · Aug 12, 2020

dagraham said:
If an agreement can’t be reached let’s hope it doesn’t prevent us buying another decent RB.

Guess we could still buy Aaron’s or another English RB. Problem is we need Aurier to leave to free up foreign player spots in the squad if we want to shop abroad.

Spursmatty87 · Aug 12, 2020

Anywhere around £18m-£22m would be good business.

Spurrific · Aug 12, 2020

hellava_tough said:
See this is where I think we go wrong, to be honest.

If he goes for 13m, we'll be able to bring a RB in for 25m. Which basically means we'll have signed a DCM and a RB, both whom the manager wants, both ready for preseason, for 15m.

That's good business and planning imo.

In the past we've had players on the books for seasons at a time, costing us weekly and decreasing in value as time goes by. Just get rid of them and move on.

Why would it be anything remotely resembling good business to accept well below his market value?

snakehipsspurs · Aug 12, 2020

hellava_tough said:
See this is where I think we go wrong, to be honest.

If he goes for 13m, we'll be able to bring a RB in for 25m. Which basically means we'll have signed a DCM and a RB, both whom the manager wants, both ready for preseason, for 15m.

That's good business and planning imo.

In the past we've had players on the books for seasons at a time, costing us weekly and decreasing in value as time goes by. Just get rid of them and move on.

I think we probably need a middle ground between both strategies. If we're seen to just buckle and accept any old bid for players, clubs will fuck us around on future sales. But, if Levy goes back to his old strategy of trying to always get profit or max value for players, no one will sell.

If he could meet Milan halfway at like 17/18mil, will a few incentives in there for CL qualification or him in Serie A Team of the Season, that will make him look shrewd and get him gone imo.

Spursmatty87 · Aug 12, 2020

Spurrific said:
Why would it be anything remotely resembling good business to accept well below his market value?

I guess if we sell someone below market value get the replacements in early and we go on to have a great start with a really settled def it could be argued that then it would be good business. I guess it’s a balance

wrd · Aug 12, 2020

Matty miller said:
I guess if we sell someone below market value get the replacements in early and we go on to have a great start with a really settled def it could be argued that then it would be good business. I guess it’s a balance

But a team which already operates on a tight budget, leaving money on the table seems foolish no? If we get a new RB in before selling Aurier then we will be in a position of strength in terms of getting the best fee for him. If we're relying on the money to get a new RB we could run into some issues.

Ron Burgundy · Aug 12, 2020

Matty miller said:
Anywhere around £18m-£22m would be good business.

I agree, I really doubt he'll go up much in value (outside of a general recovery in transfer prices), and holding onto him would stop us investing - that has to be taken into consideration on the fee

Japhet · Aug 12, 2020

wrd said:
But a team which already operates on a tight budget, leaving money on the table seems foolish no? If we get a new RB in before selling Aurier then we will be in a position of strength in terms of getting the best fee for him. If we're relying on the money to get a new RB we could run into some issues.

That depends who we go for. We're maxed out on non HG players so bringing in a non HG player before creating a space would cause issues, namely that other teams would know we have to unload a non HG player to balance the books. I don't see Levy doing that. If we were to go for someone like Aarons or Bogle though we'd be fine.

Spursmatty87 · Aug 12, 2020

wrd said:
But a team which already operates on a tight budget, leaving money on the table seems foolish no? If we get a new RB in before selling Aurier then we will be in a position of strength in terms of getting the best fee for him. If we're relying on the money to get a new RB we could run into some issues.

Like i said it’s a balancing act. Both ways could be a problem. When working on tight budgets.

hellava_tough · Aug 12, 2020

Spurrific said:
Why would it be anything remotely resembling good business to accept well below his market value?

I think when you consider all the pros and cons of the transfer, 13m is his market value.

We're talking a depreciating asset who is hindering our ability to achieve opportunities in other areas.

TEESSIDE1 · Aug 12, 2020

hellava_tough said:
I think when you consider all the pros and cons of the transfer, 13m is his market value.

We're talking a depreciating asset who is hindering our ability to achieve opportunities in other areas.

There’s already been a number of transfers where players have moved clubs for considerably less than they would have pre lockdown. Foreign clubs in particular have been hit really badly. They didn’t have the financial might of the EPL sides to start with and are now operating on a much stricter budget than the bigger EPL clubs.

If getting £15m for Aurier allows us to sign another RB who will improve us then we should do the deal.

dtxspurs · Aug 12, 2020

I wouldn’t spend more than 15mil on Aurier if I were another club.

carpediem991 · Aug 12, 2020

dtxspurs said:
I wouldn’t spend more than 15mil on Aurier if I were another club.

I wouldn't spend a penny. But the good thing is in this football world there is almost always someone who pays.

C0YS · Aug 12, 2020

hellava_tough said:
I think when you consider all the pros and cons of the transfer, 13m is his market value.

We're talking a depreciating asset who is hindering our ability to achieve opportunities in other areas.

I don't think we can get better for 13 million, so I don't we should sell if that's what they are offering. Unless we manage to do a deal for a similar amount.

I think we need another right back regardless if Aurier leaves or not. The way I see it is either we keep Aurier, get in another right back. and Tanganga becomes 4th choice CB. Or we sell Aurier get another RB and a CB and Tanganga competes for the Right back slot.

I think we hold the cards here. I'm not the biggest Aurier fan, but can see advantages to what he offers and don't feel we need to feel pressured to sell. And we definitely should not be undervaluing our assets.

C0YS · Aug 12, 2020

dtxspurs said:
I wouldn’t spend more than 15mil on Aurier if I were another club.

I dunno, Aurier is quite clearly well ahead of their other options, he would improve Milan considerably. All right backs are flawed these days. Atletico wouldn't accept 30m for Trippier, and people held similar sentiments here about him.

I'm not expecting to get 20m for him but until we have a replacement lined up I see no reason to move goalposts too much.

hellava_tough · Aug 12, 2020

C0YS said:
I don't think we can get better for 13 million, so I don't we should sell if that's what they are offering. Unless we manage to do a deal for a similar amount.

I think we need another right back regardless if Aurier leaves or not. The way I see it is either we keep Aurier, get in another right back. and Tanganga becomes 4th choice CB. Or we sell Aurier get another RB and a CB and Tanganga competes for the Right back slot.

I think we hold the cards here. I'm not the biggest Aurier fan, but can see advantages to what he offers and don't feel we need to feel pressured to sell. And we definitely should not be undervaluing our assets.

To a certain extent we are pressured to sell because he's only got 2 years left on his contract. Is it likely we'll get a fee for him next summer, or will clubs wait for a free deal?

Also, if we sell him and use the funds on someone like Aarons, we'll probably recoup any 'lost' value instantly, by taking a HG prospect from the Championship at a reduced rate, into the Premiership. (I.e
Buy Aarons for 25m and he becomes a 35m asset as soon as he plays his first game for us).

hellava_tough · Aug 12, 2020

Btw, I have said previously that I don't think Aurier will be going anywhere this summer, because I don't think the price point will be agreed.

I stick by that, but I hope I'm wrong. And I also hope I'm wrong with my 13m valuation and Levy squeezes 17m+ out of Milan!!

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