the yid
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To be fair we were the only ones not to spend big in the summer so if anyone has a financial advantage it's us having said that Levys tight!
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BringBack_leGin
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Seems to have played in the final third mainly, and very much as a Luis Enrique style utility attacker (even playing up front on occasion) until the middle of last season as revealed by some further digging, but the switch seems to have come in January since when he’s been used mainly in CM.
This is all through transfermarkt so may well be flawed but that site seems to be pretty accurate usually.
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This is very incorrect. We actually have room for one more Non-HG player. If we let Gazza go we can then have room for 2 more Non-HG players.
And this is how our EL squad looks like. This is where things get complicated. We could get a Sabitzer and then have to omit Lamela ( as he injury prone and it would make no sense to have a player of Sabitzer quality not feature in the EL) and then replace Rodon for Sanchez. Leaving us with Rodon, Dier, Tanganga, Toby and Davies as CB options.
And this is how our EL squad looks like. This is where things get complicated. We could get a Sabitzer and then have to omit Lamela ( as he injury prone and it would make no sense to have a player of Sabitzer quality not feature in the EL) and then replace Rodon for Sanchez. Leaving us with Rodon, Dier, Tanganga, Toby and Davies as CB options.
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I know it might be worth its own thread, but tbh I don't think it should go in the Kane thread atm.
FWIW I'd love Kane to stay at the club and win things, however we have a few problems.
1) We need to upgrade 3-4 first XI positions to truly kick on (CM, CB and imo a top RWF and RB).
2) We are up to our eyeballs in debt and COVID keeping fans out of the stadium is going to be hitting us very hard.
3) All of the players we ideally need to sell are not desirable to other teams, especially at what we want for them.
We may be forced to listen to offers this summer and that isn't even considering the fact that he himself will be looking elsewhere and considering where he can win things and win them quickly. City will come knocking this summer, so might Real, PSG or even Barca with their current woes.
FWIW I'd love Kane to stay at the club and win things, however we have a few problems.
1) We need to upgrade 3-4 first XI positions to truly kick on (CM, CB and imo a top RWF and RB).
2) We are up to our eyeballs in debt and COVID keeping fans out of the stadium is going to be hitting us very hard.
3) All of the players we ideally need to sell are not desirable to other teams, especially at what we want for them.
We may be forced to listen to offers this summer and that isn't even considering the fact that he himself will be looking elsewhere and considering where he can win things and win them quickly. City will come knocking this summer, so might Real, PSG or even Barca with their current woes.
dontcallme
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Worst thing we could do is sell Kane. It shouldn't be a consideration, at all.
nailsy
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Barcelona can't afford to pay their players in January. French football is in financial trouble after the collapse of the TV deal over there. Real also have financial issues and would prefer Mbappe anyway. I'm not convinced City would pay the fee we'd want for him.
BringBack_leGin
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What the fuck is wrong with you?
dontcallme
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Yeah, because those situations are exactly the same.
Ambitious players who want to win things in their career?
Actually, Kane leaving this summer after giving Jose a full season makes more sense than Bale leaving when he did. Kane has had years as a world class player and only has a few left whereas Bale had only hit world class levels the season before he went.
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Not quite sure what your point is now. Your first post seemed to suggest you wanted us to sell him to fund other signings. Now you're the "realistic" fan seeing it as an inevitability.
This is Kane's 7th season of performing to an elite level. Before he got a huge salary he had numerous opportunities to leave but never showed any desire at all. Once Bale got up to level he left straight away.
I would say that's a pretty fundamental difference in the situations, wouldn't you?
I'll make myself clearer then.
I don't want Kane to go. I want him to stay and win things with us as he himself has re-iterated in the past. However we need significant investment still and have no obvious way of raising the funds. Coupled with COVID having screwed us and the stadium debt we will have to dip back in to the bargain bucket to freshen things up.
Not to go all Danny Rose, but would that excite a player who will be 28 this summer and wants to win things?
It will be in his mind that if he wants top honours, the likelihood is he will have to go elsewhere. Yes he hasn't taken the opportunity to jump ship like Bale did in the past, but that was because he was working with a manager he deeply respected (Poch) and had time on his side. Time no longer is on his side and there is every chance that he will regard it as a now or never situation.
So my being pragmatic about the situation may upset a lot of you, but I see it as making the best out of a bad situation. When Bale left we re-invested it and even though only 2-3 of them worked out, the money from subsequent sales of Chirches, Paulinho et al lead to the purchases of Son and Alderweireld.
If Kane leaves and we get £125-150m for him (no-one will pay north of that thanks to COVID) we can make significant reinvestments into the playing staff and move on a level.
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Thanks for the reply.
You did say in your original post that you wanted Kane to stay but felt selling him is the way to fund our requirements. This is the point I very strongly disagree with. Kane is of vital importance to us and arguably the best striker in the world.
We have numerous players we can look to sell before Kane to fund new signings.
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Gotta admit, I don't watch much Bundesliga, but seen quite a bit of Leipzig in the Champs League and he does remind me of Wijnaldum from there.
double0
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Not going to jump all on you about this... But Football to me isn't all about trophies, yes it's important don't get me wrong its also about community and other things. Kane is may be a once in a generation player coming through the system and playing for his boyhood club, for the fans that means a lot it's not all about what we can do with the money.
Unless he wants out or the club sees different we shouldn't be pushing the idea of him going and thinking about what we do with the money.
SecretLemonadeDrinker
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Mate, you say that you are merely being pragmatic. But it is a pragmatism based on an unfounded assumption - namely, that we are far worse off than other clubs because of our stadium debt and that we will consequently be forced to shop for bargain basement players unless we sell Kane.
And that simply isn’t true. We are actually better off than all but a very few other clubs. The Bank of England loan saw to that. And my guess is that we will have little difficulty in refinancing when it expires in the summer. It might even be refinanced with the BoE.
In the meanwhile, the rollout of the vaccination programme offers light at the end of the tunnel. The return of fans to stadiums will gradually be ramped up. The tills will start ringing again. The stadium will once again be able to do what it was designed for. We get to buy well and still keep Kane.
There is nothing unrealistic about that scenario. And I would argue that it is actually far more pragmatic than yours - for the simple reason that it doesn’t entail losing our irreplaceable, home grown, world class player. Under no circumstances could selling Kane be the pragmatic thing to do. IMO.
