Who’s our next manager?
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Jose Mourinho
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Wheeler Dealer
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You just need someone to come in, free the shackles, put an arm around them, make them express themselves and we'll have a completely different mind set and approach. Whether it brings positive results, who know, but at least we can start to play expansive football that is far more suited to this group of players.
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Tucker
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Said it in the match thread yesterday, it looks to me like the players aren’t picking up what he’s putting down. Smacks of a manager that’s lost the dressing room and is throwing shit against the wall to see what sticks. Sissoko at right back, Doherty on the left wing, etc etc. There didn’t seem to be any plan in possession yesterday, and the defence looked like they had been organised by a blind man.
It would be great to hear some itk saying otherwise or indeed that Levy sees the problems. It’s telling that Levy won’t sell Dele imo, obviously sees Mourinho as short term.
It would be great to hear some itk saying otherwise or indeed that Levy sees the problems. It’s telling that Levy won’t sell Dele imo, obviously sees Mourinho as short term.
Gingernut
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I tend to agree with you here. It seems like some of them just don't care about playing for him anymore.
PLTuck
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I've backed him to the hilt on here despite not really being overly happy with his appointment, but it all has an ominous feel to it at the moment. We've seen this film before. It feels like the wheels are wobbling.
It pains me to say it but I am losing faith.
It pains me to say it but I am losing faith.
Trix
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Well I'm not guessing if that's what you are asking.
dontcallme
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I am starting to feel the same except I thought he was the right appointment.
When Poch started to wobble I kept asking for more time. It got to the stage where I lost faith he'd turn it around.
The players don't appear to be following his instructions. He might not have lost the dressing room but Jose is a tactical manager, if they aren't going to do as he asks then he is on borrowed time.
Rosco1984
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Do you enjoy watching leeds? I certainly do and they certainly spanked Leicester yesterday in their first season in the league for 20 years. im not seeing the myth. Im seeing entertaining football punching above its station is that not what we aim for? Or are we obsessed with shiny pieces of tin that are out of our financial ambition to reach and in doing so sacrificing our pride in our team which I for one always had under Poch trophies or not?
I suspect there might be some pieces in Telegraph, Guardian or Athletic this week (especially if we lose to Chelsea) about Jose's status.
It'll go like this:
2 losses, 5 shots for, 56 against, something something discontent in the dressing room, especially the treatment of Aurier and Dele Alli, negative football is not popular among the squad hierarchy, something something still has Levy's backing, still has a League Cup final to play, something something enourmous pay-off, but there might come a time when he pulls the trigger if things go further south and something something protecting player assets.
It'll go like this:
2 losses, 5 shots for, 56 against, something something discontent in the dressing room, especially the treatment of Aurier and Dele Alli, negative football is not popular among the squad hierarchy, something something still has Levy's backing, still has a League Cup final to play, something something enourmous pay-off, but there might come a time when he pulls the trigger if things go further south and something something protecting player assets.
H-SF
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The problem is that we most likely cannot afford to pay out Jose's contract and buy out a new manager from their current contract (if they were willing to come). Jose is on 15m a year so we'd be paying around 37m to sack him if my maths is correct. That is serious serious money. I guess if we sacked him we'd therefore have to bring someone in who is out of work. However at the same time I anticipate that Levy's preferences for the job (Naglesmann, Rodgers, Hassenhutl etc) would be dominated by currently employed managers. So unless we want to go down the Allegri route we'd probably be bringing someone unemployed in on a temporary basis until the end of the season. I feel that a caretaker manager would probably struggle to get top 4 and win a trophy (basically what Jose was expected to do before the season started) so basically unless we continue to nose dive Jose may as well be allowed to see out the season. Perhaps Levy disagrees though and will pull the trigger, get someone like Benitez for 6 months in the hope that he can get us 4th and win the carabao/EL.
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I have watched some of their games this season and some of their play has been good on the eye, so yes, it's been enjoyable.
But,
Why shouldn't we be wanting shiny bits of tin? You want to watch your team win, winning can equate to shiny bits of tin, ergo why thumb your nose at it?
People in here have complained about the investment and lack of investment within the club over the years, why are they bothering to do either if the aim isn't to eventually win something?
dontcallme
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It's a difficult one. I've rarely enjoyed watching us play "good football" and lose.
If Bielsa got us playing in his style and doing well I'd love it. But if we fell down the table and went through a long bad patch we'd soon turn on him.
I enjoyed Bryan Robson's Middlesboro side that got relegated. Easy to enjoy from the outside but don't think I'd enjoy it from my own club.
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PLTuck
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From the little I've seen, and from reading posters who's judgement I trust on match ratings threads, it just feels like the players are all playing well below what they are capable of, PEH, Sissoko, Son and Kane aside. 18 months ago we were all shitting ourselves that Toby would leave, and now he spends a month on the sidelines for no apparent reason. 18 months ago Tanganga looked a real prospect, now he seems to be a forgotten man, bar the odd 45 mins here and there.
I do not like the way he has treated some players. Another poster said that Jose sometimes seems to pick his line ups to make a point, and that rings true right now. Was Dele even on the bench yesterday? Serge? (I only saw Motd which didnt show unused subs)
In short.....
spursfan77
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Oh I don't think the summer was bad at all, far from it. I think we did more than expected in terms of incomings and it was obvious then as it is now that we need more time to build the squad. Squad building has been poor before then, with players being held onto far too long, hence may point on Lamela/Lucas.
Unlike many, I still haven't written off Doherty. You don't post numbers like he did for Wolves for a couple of season without being a good player.
BringBack_leGin
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Concerning if we’ve reached this point... but if we want that thread then we already have it. It’s called the ‘Jose Mourinho’ thread and it started back when he was appointed ?.
This is how I feel about the situation too. I'm not going to rage out over it because honestly I don't think the main issue is the manager. Didn't think it was the case with Pochettino and I don't believe it now either. The issue is the quality of the squad. We are basically walking down the same path Arsenal did after the Emirates was built. One by one our stars will move on and the likes of Aurier, Winks, Dier, Sanchez, Lamela and Sissoko will still be regular starters, even though they have proved, over and over again, that they are not good enough for what we claim to be our goal.
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I didn't say that. I just said it was a bad idea to change managers at this stage of an already disruptive season.
I said the same with Poch. Changing the manager when things aren't going well isn't necessarily the answer.
Spurzinho
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I think under normal circumstances DL would be preparing to make the change. The one thing that I think will be playing into his decision is that there are two routes into the CL. There is top four and then there is winning the EL. Our chances of top four are fading but DL may feel that JM still gives us the edge in the EL. As soon as DL feels that JM is a detriment rather than a boost to our chances in the EL then he may just ditch him.
On the flip side there is the asset value of the squad which will be plummeting the longer they appear to be a bunch of donkeys. I do not personally believe that they are a bunch of donkeys, merely that they are being ordered to play in such a way as to make them look like a bunch of donkeys.
On the flip side there is the asset value of the squad which will be plummeting the longer they appear to be a bunch of donkeys. I do not personally believe that they are a bunch of donkeys, merely that they are being ordered to play in such a way as to make them look like a bunch of donkeys.
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