England Vs France: QF

glacierSpurs · Dec 10, 2022

Those who blame Kane on missing the 2nd pen should ask why the team as a whole are not creating enough to score other than from the spot. These same fans probably wouldn't realise without Kane's assists in the group stage the team may not even be playing tonight. I can bet if Kane scores both pens, bring it to ET or got England to win, there will be another stupid bunch of fans slating Lloris for being crap. It's just a Spurs thing to put the blame on.

Marty · Dec 10, 2022

theShiznit said:
Sad for Harry, happy for Hugo.

One the plus side i don't think H will go anywhere else in England for a while as he'll be getting hate from every team's (more than usual) fans...

We showed our class when we applauded Saka after his penalty miss, you know the same courtesy won't be afforded H.

I don't think Saka would've been shown much love if it hadn't been for the barrage of racist abuse. It was a very fitting and fine reaction to the horrible abuse he received, but Kane won't be abused in the same way.

fishhhandaricecake · Dec 10, 2022

Roy Keane spot on “Playing well isn’t good enough you have to win these games” . Simple as that really.

easley91 · Dec 10, 2022

DickTopSpursFan said:
Southgate can FO now and take maguire with him. Also. Why Sterling instead of grealish. One has spent the week on a plane after being burgled. The other options. Not so. terrible decisions.

What's Southgate done wrong? He got lambasted for being too defensive with this England side, which we weren't tonight. We took it to France and they took their two chances. This isn't on Southgate and if anything, he deserves the Euros with the likes of Bellingham and Foden etc.

dontcallme · Dec 10, 2022

fishhhandaricecake said:
Roy Keane spot on “Playing well isn’t good enough you have to win these games” . Simple as that really.

Roy Keane really is an oracle with his words of wisdom.

greaves · Dec 10, 2022

DarwinSpur said:
Agree. Thought England were easily the better side for 90% of the game.

That's football. It fucking sucks. Don't know why we do it to ourselves to be honest.

'Win some, lose some.' Story of the ages. The sort of thing you might expect to see written on the walls of ancient Roman latrines. Shit Happens. Or whatever they say in Latin.( Stercus Accidit?)

Trent Crimm · Dec 10, 2022

easley91 said:
What's Southgate done wrong? He got lambasted for being too defensive with this England side, which we weren't tonight. We took it to France and they took their two chances. This isn't on Southgate and if anything, he deserves the Euros with the likes of Bellingham and Foden etc.

Sterling instead of grealish for a start. See the above post you quoted.

cjsimba · Dec 10, 2022

Kane will now go on to break the premier league record in record time to make sure he’s not remembered for this ????

easley91 · Dec 10, 2022

cjsimba said:
Kane will now go on to break the premier league record in record time to make sure he’s not remembered for this ????

He'll be the record England scorer by some distance as well.

TennesseeYid · Dec 10, 2022

I feel like I’ve been shot

crokey · Dec 10, 2022

I'm not English but that was a great game. Gutted for Kane, Lloris played well, dealt with crosses well. But my main takeaway is if you're English and want Southgate gone you're a mug. England were the best team in the tournament.

A Bit Much · Dec 10, 2022

easley91 said:
What's Southgate done wrong? He got lambasted for being too defensive with this England side, which we weren't tonight. We took it to France and they took their two chances. This isn't on Southgate and if anything, he deserves the Euros with the likes of Bellingham and Foden etc.

Agreed - I was fully on board with getting rid of Southgate but he's impressed me this tournament aside from the USA game. Thought tonight he picked the correct team and overall we were unlucky. Weird to say it but I'd give him the euros based on this tournament.

fishhhandaricecake · Dec 10, 2022

dontcallme said:
Roy Keane really is an oracle with his words of wisdom.

He’s right though and he know what it took to win.

mpickard2087 · Dec 10, 2022

Those cruel fine margins only sport provides.

It was a classic big match/crunch game at the business end of a competition. Pretty tight, pretty cagey, not much between either team. I thought England did just shade it though over the 90 minutes, defensively kept France's threat to a minimum (Mbappe had like one opportunity for a dangerous run over the whole match, Griezmann was locked down much better second half it seemed) and going the other way had a bit more huff and puff and "moments" over the course of the match.

But, those fine margins.

That minute or so around the Giroud goal, where there was already one great chance before it, England had become disjointed and a little weary looking and a change was needed to get fresh legs on, fresh instructions, and a breather to reorganise and stem the flow. We did have subs waiting, the ball was put in the net before we could make them.

Then we have Kane, the guy you'd want taking them, missing a spotkick to take it to 2-2 and giving us the real impetus going into the last few minutes of the game. Unbelievably, he's skied it.

Proper kick in the bollocks that.

Looking forward, I just repeat myself, England need proper midfielders who can control and run the game. I don't mean final third talents, which we're now getting in abundance, proper centre of the park players who dictate and run the game. Development wise we're almost there, but not quite whilst lacking in this crucial area.

PCozzie · Dec 10, 2022

fishhhandaricecake said:
Roy Keane spot on “Playing well isn’t good enough you have to win these games” . Simple as that really.

Keane makes it sound like England went to the World Cup and left the garage door open and got burgled, like we just forgot that we're supposed to try to win. We matched France from kick off to final whistle, but they just had two moments of absolute quality. Arguably the best strike of the World Cup, and the best cross. If any team can absorb that and still go on to win then they're the best team in the world. England, for all the progress, just aren't.

CookieYiddo · Dec 10, 2022

TennesseeYid said:
I feel like I’ve been shot

Jesus...

Cochise · Dec 10, 2022

easley91 said:
He'll be the record England scorer by some distance as well.

Hope he scores one more then hangs his boots up and tells the country to suck it.

Yiddo100 · Dec 10, 2022

Eni aluko is effin clueless

ghjk_91 · Dec 10, 2022

Been a few months since proper football heartache - almost forgot the feeling!

Marty · Dec 10, 2022

mpickard2087 said:
Those cruel fine margins only sport provides.

It was a classic big match/crunch game at the business end of a competition. Pretty tight, pretty cagey, not much between either team. I thought England did just shade it though over the 90 minutes, defensively kept France's threat to a minimum (Mbappe had like one opportunity for a dangerous run over the whole match, Griezmann was locked down much better second half it seemed) and going the other way had a bit more huff and puff and "moments" over the course of the match.

But, those fine margins.

That minute or so around the Giroud goal, where there was already one great chance before it, England had become disjointed and a little weary looking and a change was needed to get fresh legs on, fresh instructions, and a breather to reorganise and stem the flow. We did have subs waiting, the ball was put in the net before we could make them.

Then we have Kane, the guy you'd want taking them, missing a spotkick to take it to 2-2 and giving us the real impetus going into the last few minutes of the game. Unbelievably, he's skied it.

Proper kick in the bollocks that.

Looking forward, I just repeat myself, England need proper midfielders who can control and run the game. I don't mean final third talents, which we're now getting in abundance, proper centre of the park players who dictate and run the game. Development wise we're almost there, but not quite whilst lacking in this crucial area.

Agree, the biggest thing England lack is someone to complete a trio with Bellingham and Rice. Henderson is getting old, Phillips is too defensive and I don't think dropping in one of the AMs in an 8 role will work.

What's Bellingham's younger brother like?

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