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mil1lion

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I think the only way we get it right is by bringing in Tottenham people in the hierarchy from dof down to academy. We need proper spurs people not Hollywood names that fail at this post . It’s working for the scum with edu arteta mertesacker . I can see Hugo taking dons post in a few years in honesty
Tottenham people with a history of failure. Davies as DOF, Dier as chief scout and Sanchez managing the academy. COYS!
 

delawarespur

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Those wishing for Poch will be in for a big suprise in my opinion, and not a good one.
Unpopular, but this would make me very happy. Provided a) the club carefully goes through this process and takes its time to make sure everything is aligned for a long term appointment and b) the manager fits in with the club ethos and fan desire to play with more expression and expansiveness. Poch isn’t the only coach on earth who can bring that style to the club, and the negatives (doesn’t fully feel like his first era has been eradicated; last year or so in charge; need truly fresh ideas) are far too worrying for me to override the positives (said style; nostalgia(?)).
 

Styopa

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You can't refer to 'desperate appointments' and fail to mention Nuno. I'm still having night terrors.

The terrifying thing about Nuno's appointment is Levy had about four months to get that one right. We must have spent more time interviewing managers than Nuno spent in the job.
 

TPdYID

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The terrifying thing about Nuno's appointment is Levy had about four months to get that one right. We must have spent more time interviewing managers than Nuno spent in the job.
Think about how many 'clip and climb' tours Levy must of done around the Skywalk in those 4 months in an attempt to schmooze?
 

Styopa

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Essentially this.

As @Timberwolf said, we had a scattergun approach which included Ten Hag and Flick yet still yielded appointing Nuno after almost nearly appointing what would have been equally as bad with Gattuso!

This lot haven't learned their lesson one iota.....

Scattergun barely does justice to a club that bounces from Redknapp to AVB to Sherwood to Pochettino to Mourinho. There's no unifying football vision in that run of managers.
 

GetSpurredOn

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Poch would be a 50/50 appointment.

50% bad - reeks of desperation, just because he’s available, and Levy could hope the romanticism may distract the fans. But, have the failings of his previous spell gone away, he was sulky towards the end, could have been genuine emotional fatigue, could have been that he just realised he wasn’t ever going to be backed. Has that changed? Has his poor use of development players and loans changed? Tactically is he still as fresh, has he learnt some new tricks? Will he still refuse to work with a DoF, because that is a setup we really need in my opinion, and his reluctance to accept alternative targets (hopefully with similar skills and characteristics) rather than specific individuals (who weren’t always attainable) was a problem when trying to freshen up the squad.

50% good - could pan out, as he does clearly ha some affinity with the club so could give some of the fan base a nostalgic bump in mood, which players could feed off. Knows the league, still knows a chunk of the squad, should be minimal bedding in time. He did provide the best period of my time as a spurs fan. Redknapp had us playing swashbuckling football, but it never felt sustainable against the big guns, but Poch made me believe we could go toe to toe with them. Attacking intensity but with a touch of pragmatism. I’d love to see that approach again over the counter attacking team we’ve become.

Just all reads a little like opportunistic necessity rather than well considered long term planning.
 

Cochise

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I got the impression that Paratici was building us a squad suitable for Conte with the vision being to stick with a back three formation. I've been pleased with his work to date and trust him more than Poch and Levy when it comes to scouting.

Thankfully we've not signed any centre backs that can only play in a back three lol.

Regarding the manager search, it felt like Paratici wanted a coach he was familiar with hence the switch to Serie A candidates only. Nuno felt like a case of picking the last kid in the playground, with the teacher (Mendes) telling us we'd get the better crayons to colour in with after lunch if we did.
 

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I read it that it's someone other than Poch, and a much worse option
Trix confirmed it would very likely be Poch. I suppose that he will come and start playing NDombele, Lo Celso etc. or he will refuse working with DOF.
 

chrisd2k

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I suppose none of us know for sure, but I do get a strong sense that he does want to come back.

On his social media he's always hanging out with Spurs legends, frequenting his old haunts in London, his assistants are liking posts about Spurs. There are many accounts that he wasn't happy with the lack of control at PSG and only then realised how good he had it at Spurs. Then there's him repeatedly turning down job offers since leaving PSG in the knowledge that the Spurs job could soon be available. He's also reportedly back on good terms with Levy and was heavily linked with a return 18 months ago when he was still at PSG.

If it looks like a nostalgia-fuelled return to Spurs and it smells like a nostalgia-fuelled return to Spurs...
What jobs did he turn down? Like jobs that were actually offered? Genuine question I'm not bashing the great man
 

Impspur1

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From a few months back when Poch returning was not exactly universally wanted by those here to now there seems to be more of a broad agreement, @Hercules comes out and 💩 on it! You’ve got to laugh
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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Levy's track record with this sort of thing is so poor, though. Most of his successful appointments owe more to luck than a well-thought-out plan. Jol and especially Redknapp were desperate appointments when Levy's primary plan went wrong. Even Poch may have been a plan B to the plan A that was LVG. Generally, things have not worked out when Levy has gone for managers that he seems to really want, from Ramos to AVB to Mourinho. I have no faith he will get it right at this stage, even if we have a short-list of decent options.

Tbf all managerial appointments are a lottery.

I personally think Ruben Amorim would be a sensible choice considering the success he’s had playing wing backs and his preference for developing young players.

I assume we’ll probably go for a more high profile manager though.
 
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thebenjamin

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I do suspect that both Mourinho and Conte were appointed in an attempt to appease Harry Kane and convince him he can win things with us. I guess we're now faced with admitting that didn't work and he's going to leave as a result.
 

Trix

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Trix confirmed it would very likely be Poch. I suppose that he will come and start playing NDombele, Lo Celso etc. or he will refuse working with DOF.
Did I? not sure about that. What I believe I said was that MP was the only name I've heard mentioned, and even that was only on an interim basis with a view to permanent, put forward by someone with a voice at the top table.
 

Trix

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I do suspect that both Mourinho and Conte were appointed in an attempt to appease Harry Kane and convince him he can win things with us. I guess we're now faced with admitting that didn't work and he's going to leave as a result.
I Don't. I believe he's appointed those two because he's looked at their CV, read down to 'honours won' and decided that was all he needed to read. I honestly think he believes that these serial winning managers are the only difference that separate us from those that keep winning trophies, and he's clearly failed miserably to read the room.
 

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I Don't. I believe he's appointed those two because he's looked at their CV, read down to 'honours won' and decided that was all he needed to read. I honestly think he believes that these serial winning managers are the only difference that separate us from those that keep winning trophies, and he's clearly failed miserably to read the room.

If that was his reason it shows a total lack of understanding. Those managers are used to winning things with elite squad which we don’t have, they lack experience in dealing with lesser players or having to make square pegs fit round holes. We need a manager that fits our model and how we are run and sadly that seem to be run in a very odd way.

So much I read about Levy and see in terms of his decision making gives me the impression of a man who is brilliant at business but doesn’t really get the game of football much but thinks he does understand and thus doesn’t delegate to experts.
 
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