Next Manager Watch

[Styopa]

Thats how I read it too. He’s off somewhere else. I can’t believe that Chelsea aren’t priming up Potter replacements

Part of me would be surprised if he went to Chelsea. But then again, lots of ex-Chelsea managers have managed us. It's quite possible Poch goes to Chelsea, and we hire Potter.

 

[Trix]

I think Kane leaving this summer might be best for all parties. We'll still get a transfer fee, Kane can move on to a new challenge (and maybe win something), and a new manager will have a cleaner slate to work with.

And does that money get spent on an actual quality replacement, or 3-4 players Levy likes and maybe we can get a tune out of them or maybe not.

 

[felmani26]

I think Kane leaving this summer might be best for all parties. We'll still get a transfer fee, Kane can move on to a new challenge (and maybe win something), and a new manager will have a cleaner slate to work with.

As much as Conte's future has been a cause of instability, I dare say so has Kane's.

One way or another, both will be clarified in the summer (surely?!) and we can plan accordingly.

 

[Timberwolf]

Welcome back, Nuno.

Oh man is he gonna make us proud!!!

 

[thebenjamin]

As much as Conte's future has been a cause of instability, I dare say so has Kane's.

One way or another, both will be clarified in the summer (surely?!) and we can plan accordingly.

Most likely scenario is a protracted on off move to United which falls through because levy refuses to sell and he goes into the season with his deal expiring and pissed off

 

[djhotspur]

And does that money get spent on an actual quality replacement, or 3-4 players Levy likes and maybe we can get a tune out of them or maybe not.

Literally this. Zero chance he goes after osinhem or anyone decent.

Hell likely say oh we’ve got richarlison and sign some crap cheap striker replacement.

Years wasted, no where near where we need to be and likely back to square wrong with the same problems and our generational talent gone.

 

[Timberwolf]

Most likely scenario is a protracted on off move to United which falls through because levy refuses to sell and he goes into the season with his deal expiring and pissed off

Yup fully expect this to happen unless United decide to skip the Kane-chase drama and go full steam ahead with Osimhen instead, in which case Kane won't have very many, if any, realistic suitors this summer.

 

[felmani26]

Most likely scenario is a protracted on off move to United which falls through because levy refuses to sell and he goes into the season with his deal expiring and pissed off

I fear this will be the case too and in turn will utterly undermine the efforts for next season as well.

 

[Cavehillspur]

Will probably be Mason

 

[Timberwolf]

Will probably be Mason

If so, what's the point??

Under Jose it made some sense to use him as an interim since things were getting toxic, but we're not at that stage yet under Conte. Top 4 seems unlikely but it's certainly still possible and Conte's nothing if not competitive.

Unless we've actually got a coach lined up to replace him, why not just let him ride out the season rather than having to pay him off? I can't see Mason doing a better job than Conte over the last 12 games so we may as well get our money's worth.

EDIT: Literally just saw Herc's ITK from earlier. Maybe things are getting toxic after all?

 

[Jim De hat]

You could well be right mate. It's the only name I've even heard as per our conversation, which is ominous in itself such is the lack of planning involved.

This, to me, sounds ominously like Ryan Mason, would fit the financial model, very well. Not that I’m very bright.

 

[dtxspurs]

.I’m judging him on his ability as a coach, the ability to make 10 outfield players more than the sum of their parts, and in my opinion he was very poor at that. And I can remember when most on here felt the same way.
I hate the way he turned the most talented squad we’ve had since the sixties into an effort team.

We fucking spanked Real Madrid 3-1 with Winks, Dier, Davies, Sanchez & Trippier in the starting line up... but he wasn't able to make them more than the sum of their parts?

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Mate I've come to terms with the fact it doesn't really matter as long as the status quo remains. Getting in a massive name that's toured the Elite clubs we've done to death now though. They aren't going to get the resources or indeed the control required to do what they need to do. Due to this I'm actually back in the Pochettino camp because at least he knows what he's letting himself in for and believe it or not he is still good friends with Levy despite it all. I just live in hope both Levy and MP learnt a lot from his previous time here. They are both very smart men so maybe that can be something they work out.

Realistically though I don't think it matters.

Spot on same as how I feel too, Poch back is not just nostalgia he's actually one of the few people who could work under/'with' Levy and make a success of it.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

It is absurd and is a terrible idea. You mention Arteta and Xavi but fail to mention both have been backed to the eyeballs with everything they have asked for by their owners/club president including time. Both of those clubs have set on a defining philosophy and plan to achieve that, and have both given their managers time and resources to get to where they are now. If Conte and Mourinho can't get that kind of backing from Levy then there is zero chance Ryan Mason will.

Your points are right but 'absurd and terrible' idea a tad OTT.

 

[Joshua shepherd]

Your points are right but 'absurd and terrible' idea a tad OTT.

Understated if anything. Mason given the job permanently would be the final nail in the coffin for our time in the 'big 6' imo.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

I Don't. I believe he's appointed those two because he's looked at their CV, read down to 'honours won' and decided that was all he needed to read. I honestly think he believes that these serial winning managers are the only difference that separate us from those that keep winning trophies, and he's clearly failed miserably to read the room.

Just have to somehow hope that Levy has learnt from Jose and Conte that under his 'leadership' that type of manager doesn't suit us and doesn't work.

He'd tried to hire Jose for years and we all saw in the AON documentary that Levy was frothing at the mouth once Jose had signed and he said Jose is one of the 3 best managers in the world and now we have time (assume Pep & Klopp at that time were the other 2 he was referring to). Well Jose wasn't the 3rd best manager at that time, he was very much on the downhill trajectory and more to the point his character and playing style was the opposite of Poch so not a good fit, we muck up and get Nuno then try to rectify it by getting Conte which lets be honest quite a lot of us on here were excited and happy about.

But not just Levy, all of us now realise that those types of hugely successful CV winning Managers who require big and specific spending/backing don't work for us, we need a 'coach' who can develop players, get the most from the sum of its parts and work within a certain budget and also recruitment model.

Poch back makes the most sense by far right now and we see where that goes and hope and pray that Levy and Poch have learnt lessons from the way the previous stint ended with the squad not having been refreshed as it should've been.

 

[onthetwo]

Wake me up in August when Conte, Kane, ENIC, Paratici and Lloris situations will be clearer.

 

[bubble07]

I think Kane leaving this summer might be best for all parties. We'll still get a transfer fee, Kane can move on to a new challenge (and maybe win something), and a new manager will have a cleaner slate to work with.

The only way kane leaving this summer can be acceptable is if we are top 4 so can maybe get someone half decent. But feel if we are top 4 kane might stay

Worst case is europa and kane going

 

[bubble07]

Wake me up in August when Conte, Kane, ENIC, Paratici and Lloris situations will be clearer.

And Eric Diers

 

[Styopa]

Understated if anything. Mason given the job permanently would be the final nail in the coffin for our time in the 'big 6' imo.

I'm not sure about that. Even Tim Sherwood guided us to sixth. Although the big six will soon become the big seven, including Newcastle.

I can't see anyone outside those teams challenging consistently. Look at the teams just outside it at the moment: Fulham, Brighton, Brentford. Some of them are having the best seasons in their history, but they will still probably finish behind us, despite us being a mess.

I'm by no means saying we should hire Mason, but I think the "final nail in the coffin" is an overstatement.