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Joshua shepherd

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He said exactly the same “I didn’t get enough” at Chelsea. No player would’ve been enough.
Irrelevant what happened at Chelsea though isn't it because we are desperate for a CB. We've been desperate since the breakup of Toby and Jan yet despite being linked with numerous top class one's over the years, at varying stages of their development, from Kim to Skrniar, we've only managed to sign one good one, one called Rodon and one on loan.
 

TPdYID

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If you can't see that not getting in at least one good centre back has led to us conceding more goals and stopped us playing out from the back more confidently then there's no helping you is there.

Question, did Conte want a CB?

Answer, yes.

Verdict, we got (1!) temporary solution, we didn't back him as well as we could've and as a result we've conceded a lot of goals this year.
But you can't blame not getting in your first choice CB for the drivel we've seen, served up week-in; week-out for the most parts this season?

Having a mutation of Rio-Franz Maldini couldn't paper over the cracks we see (regularly) from back-to-front.

Wasn't Conte lauding Dier early part of the season for having the potential to be "world class"? Imagine Dier playing next to a World Cup winning CB and in front of a World Cup winning GK, oh wait...

Yes - A first choice CB would have made a difference.
No - it wouldn't have changed that much.

We've looked horrible this season, plain and simple.
 

Joshua shepherd

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But you can't blame not getting in your first choice CB for the drivel we've seen, served up week-in; week-out for the most parts this season?

Having a mutation of Rio-Franz Maldini couldn't paper over the cracks we see (regularly) from back-to-front.

Wasn't Conte lauding Dier early part of the season for having the potential to be "world class"? Imagine Dier playing next to a World Cup winning CB and in front of a World Cup winning GK, oh wait...

Yes - A first choice CB would have made a difference.
No - it wouldn't have changed that much.

We've looked horrible this season, plain and simple.

Nobody thinks Dier can be a world class player at this stage of his career, no matter what they say in public.

I agree the performances were poor and there's not much point talking about the downfall of Conte's time, but, it's impossible to say he was fully backed when you look at our CB options.
 

RuskyM

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Irrelevant what happened at Chelsea though isn't it because we are desperate for a CB. We've been desperate since the breakup of Toby and Jan yet despite being linked with numerous top class one's over the years, at varying stages of their development, from Kim to Skrniar, we've only managed to sign one good one, one called Rodon and one on loan.
Not really, cos if you’re arguing you don’t have enough money at Chelsea and then you’re saying the same five years later at a different club it suggests a pattern.

We didn’t go out of the FA Cup and the CL the same week because he didn’t get a centre back, put it that way.
 

codspur

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The return of Poch is going back the ex you had that amazing time with and blindly remembering the dirty weekend in Amsterdam when that was the best night you'd had in recent memory. Its forgetting the more difficult times and why it ended, maybe it was cos her dad did'nt stump up for the improved furniture for your recently occupied new build, maybe it wasn't? There is also a lot of wanting her back to stop anyone else having her and ruining your vision of what you had....like that twat from West London or some Manc poseur.

Nagelsman well your eyes met across the club you flirted a little and you thought there was something there but she was already promised to some other German superstar so you never really had a chance no matter how highly you rate yourself....but now the superstar has moved on could that little spark develop?

Also there was the chic little Spaniard in the corner, you've not spoken but you like her style.

The thing is the club closes at midnight but for some reason we want to wait to make a decision on who to chance our arm with until weeks down the line when the summer season is in full flow and the club is packed. This is the bit I don't understand. You have a couple of months to start getting to know each other and planning your own summer break and future together and giving yourself a much greater shot at happiness.....but you are gonna just go home and have a nice platonic evening with the ex's best mate and one of your oldest pals?
 

Joshua shepherd

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Not really, cos if you’re arguing you don’t have enough money at Chelsea and then you’re saying the same five years later at a different club it suggests a pattern.

We didn’t go out of the FA Cup and the CL the same week because he didn’t get a centre back, put it that way.
So none of the responsibility for the FA Cup defeat is on the players?
 

TPdYID

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Nobody thinks Dier can be a world class player at this stage of his career, no matter what they say in public.

I agree the performances were poor and there's not much point talking about the downfall of Conte's time, but, it's impossible to say he was fully backed when you look at our CB options.
The same manager you wanted backing to sign a brand new, shiny, (likely to be expensive) CB, is the same manager you doubt over being able to identify the correct player(s).

Make it, make sense...

*Grim reading*

 

southlondonyiddo

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Obviously Levy is in a corner right now.
With his statement about getting back to our DNA and that To Dare is to do spirit Roy Hodgson was the obvious choice but he’s sadly no longer available

How about Lewis Hamilton. He’s clearly wasting his time in F1 now and what with our new partnership it could be the perfect fit
 
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Guernman

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Our board of directors consists of money men and women. They have much more experience in property development than football. Actually it’s not a question of more, they have no experience in football whatsoever. The only exception is Paratici who we know to be extremely defensively minded.

The make up of the Board reflects precisely the fortunes of the club under their tenure. Massive growth in real estate development, considerable improvement in our financial clout and a complete and utter void of footballing success.

I’d take Brighton’s Board of Directors over ours any day of the week, and until we acquire some footballing nous we are going to continue on exactly the same path.

Paratici has got to go, surely any new manager of renown would have at least some concerns with the criminal allegations levied against our DoF. The Board needs refreshing with some people who actually live and breath the game. This is a football club run by people who have never kicked a ball. It’s absurd
 

Tucker

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People need to relax now, because if they don’t they’re in for a very long unpleasant rollercoaster.

Usually when people on here utter the words “don’t do it to yourself” it’s discouraging people from getting their hopes up. Well I’m saying it now with kind of the opposite in mind. Stressing about this isn’t going to make it happen any quicker, doom scrolling/posting in here and the Conte thread isn’t going to do you any favours either.

We’re all guilty of it, me included. But if this ends up anything like the Nuno summer it’ll all get very toxic if we all start climbing the walls in March.

Everyone just needs to chill, the season is a write off now, and Stellini gets a free hit. Let’s just all try and enjoy football again without the pressure.
 

Joshua shepherd

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The same manager you wanted backing to sign a brand new, shiny, (likely to be expensive) CB, is the same manager you doubt over being able to identify the correct player(s).

Make it, make sense...

*Grim reading*


No you're right, would've been better if he'd said Dier wasn't fit to lace Maldini's boots. That would've inspired him.

He did what he had to do to get the best out of the players he had, sometimes that was to praise them, sometimes it was to criticise them.
 

parklane yid

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People need to relax now, because if they don’t they’re in for a very long unpleasant rollercoaster.

Usually when people on here utter the words “don’t do it to yourself” it’s discouraging people from getting their hopes up. Well I’m saying it now with kind of the opposite in mind. Stressing about this isn’t going to make it happen any quicker, doom scrolling/posting in here and the Conte thread isn’t going to do you any favours either.

We’re all guilty of it, me included. But if this ends up anything like the Nuno summer it’ll all get very toxic if we all start climbing the walls in March.

Everyone just needs to chill, the season is a write off now, and Stellini gets a free hit. Let’s just all try and enjoy football again without the pressure.
Great advice. *goes straight back to Conte thread
 

danielneeds

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He’s seemingly really good at everything else though, so would prefer not to sack him. Agreed he’s utter guff at appointing managers though.
What's the point in being good at spotting players if you can't find a manager to make them more than the some of their parts? Paratici has to go. The guy is a grifter who's just another in the long list of examples of Levy's awful football-related judgement.
 

allatsea

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He said exactly the same “I didn’t get enough” at Chelsea. No player would’ve been enough.
I think there is a touch of the Harry Redknapp's about Conte. They both always want more players no matter how many they already have. The difference between them is Conte is a winner whilst Harry wasn't. Conte though needs specific types of players to be a winner but we were never prepared to get him those players so a parting of the ways was inevitable.
 

jimbo

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I just find it encouraging that re Trix’s post last night that some of the board want Gallardo. I honestly still think he’s our best option. Not that I’d be unhappy with JN but still I’d prefer Gallardo.
My thinking is that Gallardo would be the better appointment, but Nagelsmann is the kind of appointment we're more likely to make - and I'm fine with either.

Obviously the worry is that everyone has a long list of lots of different names encompassing every possible style and we'll take too long to reach a decision so that all the good choices have gone, which feels like a very likely outcome at the moment!
 

felmani26

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People need to relax now, because if they don’t they’re in for a very long unpleasant rollercoaster.

Usually when people on here utter the words “don’t do it to yourself” it’s discouraging people from getting their hopes up. Well I’m saying it now with kind of the opposite in mind. Stressing about this isn’t going to make it happen any quicker, doom scrolling/posting in here and the Conte thread isn’t going to do you any favours either.

We’re all guilty of it, me included. But if this ends up anything like the Nuno summer it’ll all get very toxic if we all start climbing the walls in March.

Everyone just needs to chill, the season is a write off now, and Stellini gets a free hit. Let’s just all try and enjoy football again without the pressure.
But patently, the season isn't a write off as we currently reside in 4th spot and if don't secure a successor in the interim then the spectrum could be quite vast;
- Finish 4th and secure Nagelsmann
- Finish EL and secure Slot/Amorim?
- Finish outside of Europe and secure Frank?

OK, a lot of supposition there granted but point remains, this can't be deemed a free hit whilst it's still unclear who the next manager will be and the circumstances - both financially and competition wise are uncertain.
 

TPdYID

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No you're right, would've been better if he'd said Dier wasn't fit to lace Maldini's boots. That would've inspired him.

He did what he had to do to get the best out of the players he had, sometimes that was to praise them, sometimes it was to criticise them.
How would you describe Diers form since?

In fact, while you're at it. Remind me of any player he's got the 'best out of' this season?
 
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