Next Manager Watch

superted4 · Apr 16, 2023

DOX said:
ENIC & Levy have unquestionably taken Tottenham to new heights financially, with their state-of-the-art stadium and training facility. But ... But their GLARING tone-deafness and total lack of accountability in MOST sporting aspects have left the club in a precarious position. The irredeemable mistake of sacking Poch, instead of backing him serves as a prime example. Whole there's a call for #PochBack, which I mostly support (especially, in a nostalgic sense) it won't magically undo the incompetence of ENIC’s past decisions ... even though, he’s magic...

The Bournemouth game EXCRUCIATINGLY highlights the (in)human impact of this mismanagement. Fans, disconnected, discouraged ... EXASPERATED ... directed their WRATH towards big, ol’ Dave, who left in tears ... Seeing a grown man like that is a new low ... low ... point. There's a f*cking real person behind the jersey!

Spurs are now in a situation where damage control is the only way forward. Even if ENIC get 95% of their next decisions right, the club still has a long way to go.

A complete reboot is essential, Levy & co must go all out to get a progressive head coach unafraid to give youth a chance ... implementing an expansive brand of football, focusing on possession and playing on the front foot.

And back them with time and their players. For the most we’re getting signings right now, but see Spence for the club pushing their agenda

Metalhead · Apr 16, 2023

LukaKranjcar said:
The job Unai Emery is doing at Villa has to put him in the conversation at this point surely?

Yes but I couldn't see him leaving at this point.

knowlespurs · Apr 16, 2023

LukaKranjcar said:
The job Unai Emery is doing at Villa has to put him in the conversation at this point surely?

Why on earth would he leave villa for us

Oh Teddy Teddy · Apr 16, 2023

LukaKranjcar said:
The job Unai Emery is doing at Villa has to put him in the conversation at this point surely?

It shouldn’t. He’s always been a pragmatic manager first. Even had arsenal playing well for a spell in 18/19.

Jamturk · Apr 16, 2023

jebratt said:
The other thing to consider is, how can one justify the selection with Gallardo, Nagelsmann, and Slot still available?

Premier league experience.

G Ron · Apr 16, 2023

Ginola+Tonic said:
I keep seeing this Arteta comparison but I don’t get it.
At the same time Levy could look at what happened with Lampard, Gerrard or any other former top player that failed as a prem manager recently.

We shouldn’t be copying someone else’s model just because it’s worked for them, besides Arsenal fans hated Arteta for the first 3 years, Kompany wouldn’t get that time here.

Winning the championship and being at one of the top English clubs are worlds apart.

Lampard didn’t win the championship. He took Derby to 6th and lost in the play off final. The comparison to Kompany is night and day.

talkshowhost86 · Apr 16, 2023

We need to take all 'top level' managers like Nagelsmann off any list of possible options now

It isn't happening

But I'm also not sure there's much point having a 'developmental' manager with Levy in charge

In other words...we're pretty screwed

Hoddle&Waddle · Apr 16, 2023

LukaKranjcar said:
The job Unai Emery is doing at Villa has to put him in the conversation at this point surely?

No, not for me.

Why are we obsessed with Rivals cast offs?

razzmaster · Apr 16, 2023

LukaKranjcar said:
The job Unai Emery is doing at Villa has to put him in the conversation at this point surely?

I don't think it puts him in the conversation as he doesn't seem to fit the profile we are looking for and being ex Arsenal will also work against him. What he does do though is show how a manager can make a huge difference to a seemingly poor group of players who are struggling for form and confidence. Gives me some hope for next season as I am convinced we have a stronger squad than Villa, we just need the right manager to unlock their potential.

AJW · Apr 16, 2023

Ally Gold’s new article emphasising we want someone who wants to join the club as their first choice rather than someone who gets rejected elsewhere. I can see it being another farce

C-oops · Apr 16, 2023

G Ron said:
Lampard didn’t win the championship. He took Derby to 6th and lost in the play off final. The comparison to Kompany is night and day.

You missed the point here I think

G Ron · Apr 16, 2023

talkshowhost86 said:
We need to take all 'top level' managers like Nagelsmann off any list of possible options now

It isn't happening

But I'm also not sure there's much point having a 'developmental' manager with Levy in charge

In other words...we're pretty screwed

This 100%.

If Levy remains puppet master then we’re fighting with one hand tied behind our back. Couple that with the state of this squad (it’s really fucking poor) and I really don’t think it matters who the manager is. We’re in the shit.

G Ron · Apr 16, 2023

C-oops said:
You missed the point here I think

I don’t think I did. I just can’t see how the poster compares Kompany to Lampard - their managerial CV’s are worlds apart.

In terms of the point being realised - we’ve tried the serial winner approach to attempt to polish the turd that is our shite squad and it fails miserably, so now we need a different approach.

C-oops · Apr 16, 2023

G Ron said:
I don’t think I did. I just can’t see how the poster compares Kompany to Lampard - their managerial CV’s are worlds apart.

In terms of the point being realised - we’ve tried the serial winner approach to attempt to polish the turd that is our shite squad and it fails miserably, so now we need a different approach.

I read it as comparing Kompany winning the league at Burnley and him managing spurs.

Trix · Apr 16, 2023

spursfan77 said:
I keep going back to the Marseille game at home. The atmosphere before the game in the stadium was amazing, as it was for the first twenty minutes but the team just sat back and ended up playing on the edge of our box or deeper and it just cut the atmosphere flat. Everyone thought, why should we bother if the team don’t want to push on. It’s human nature.

Fans will get behind the next guy if he can coach a team to show attacking intent from the first whistle and keep it up. We saw the atmosphere immediately change yesterday in the stadium when we went to a back four and push forward for goals. The same will happen for the new bloke if he gets us playing on the front foot. If he does that it won’t take long for him to be loved. It’s just how it is.

All that's true, as long as we are consistently winning. More booing of our own players again yesterday, you can talk the fan base up all you like and believe as long as we are attacking all will be fine. Without winning, and I mean consistently winning games though it won't stay that way for long.

Ghost Hardware · Apr 16, 2023

ButchCassidy said:
I don’t actually know how well Gallardo and his staff speak English - if it’s not well then I think that’s at least a fair concern. We need much more than just new tactical ideas, our dressing room need tons and tons of work after the damage wrought by the last few years. There’s some who need mental rebuilding, others who may need put in their place, perhaps a few who need kicked to the curb, cliques that need stamping out, comfortable players who need unseating, a culture and a collective purpose that needs put together effectively from scratch, and all this while implementing a new brand of football and showing results and progress fast enough to keep the fickle fans at bay. It’s a big task, and unfamiliarity with the language can make all of those things a significantly larger challenge, and amplify the risk of the squad losing hope and giving up on yet another manager.

I completely agree regarding the mental aspect. For me it’s more then just a change of tactics we need, that is one of the reasons i really want Gallardo because he understands that it’s not just about the football you play but the players mind set. I posted the below article about one of Gallardo’s assistants before but it’s worth reading if you missed it. This is the kind of thinking we need at Spurs imo. She speaks fluent English as well.

Sandra Rossi: the ‘brain-trainer’ helping River Plate show their emotions – and win | River Plate | The Guardian

More than a few eyebrows were raised in Argentina when the first female assistant coach was hired but Sandra Rossi has had a big impact at the Buenos Aires club

amp.theguardian.com

chrisd2k · Apr 16, 2023

Trix said:
All that's true, as long as we are consistently winning. More booing of our own players again yesterday, you can talk the fan base up all you like and believe as long as we are attacking all will be fine. Without winning, and I mean consistently winning games though it won't stay that way for long.

So you think Spurs fans are different to any other teams fans?

spursfan77 · Apr 16, 2023

Trix said:
All that's true, as long as we are consistently winning. More booing of our own players again yesterday, you can talk the fan base up all you like and believe as long as we are attacking all will be fine. Without winning, and I mean consistently winning games though it won't stay that way for long.

Well, that would still be better than now. We all know they’ll fuck up the appointment in the end and he won’t be backed, so let’s just enjoy going to games or putting the tv on shall we?

spursfan77 · Apr 16, 2023

chrisd2k said:
So you think Spurs fans are different to any other teams fans?

Arsenal being the prime example. Their fans have been toxic for years since wenger left. They bring in an attacking coach and back the manager and their stadium (and AFTV) is a different place. It honestly won’t take much to bring the enjoyment back (it wasn’t even this bad under sherwood when results were up and down) .But are the club capable of doing what’s needed? Therein lies the problem.

For the love of Spurs · Apr 16, 2023

Trix said:
Lol. You say that as if the fan base doesn't call for change way before Levy pulls the trigger.

Yes Levy needs to give the next guy time, but the supporters even more so. They are just as culpable and far more impatient as a collective.

Jol and Redknapp where not pushed out by fans and as for Poch that was a divided fanbase, it was still Levy’s choice he could have decided let’s ride the season and have a proper rebuild which is what I wanted at the time.

The reason the likes of Jose got so little time from fans was the football was god awful to watch and it didn’t look like we where building towards anything. The other issue is when you hire win it now managers like Jose and Conte that is the point of them, you win it now, if that doesn’t happen there is zero point keeping them on.

With the current decision making at the club I have absolutely no idea how we fix things, we could get a manager like Slot who does well and plays football the fans like, then Levy just sacks him anyway.

This club is a fucking shambles.

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