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jbstarr14

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ange?
enrique?

pfft. obvious smokescreen.

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unless it's someone who can unite the fan base, play entertaining football and get rid of the crap in the squad, who realistically gives a shit?

slot looked to be that person but levy fucked it.
nagelsmann could be that person but levy's fucked that too.
i can't envisage anyone else who isn't doomed before they begin imo.
I feel confident in stating that Pardew would certainly fucking unite the fan base…
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Tottenham Hotspur want to make a managerial appointment in the next 10-14 days, with Celtic’s Ange Postecoglou one of the leading candidates.

The Premier League club do not want to disrupt the Scottish champions’ preparation for the weekend’s Scottish Cup final, but it is expected a formal approach will follow.



Spurs have already spoken to other candidates, with Feyenoord’s Arne Slot having turned the job down, but Postecoglou is currently seen as the manager who best fits the progressive building project the club desires. Although the Australian is 57, the widespread perception in the game is that he is ready for the step-up. Spurs have also strongly considered Roberto De Zerbi, Marco Silva and Graham Potter although all are seen as more difficult to hire at this point, bar Potter. The former Chelsea manager had wanted a break but is willing to listen to the right offer this summer. Crystal Palace are already making overtures.

Spurs’ lack of a sporting director could put Potter off, but Postecoglou is in any case currently seen as a better fit.


The club’s second interim boss of the season, Ryan Mason, suggested he had fared well in his second stint at the club, but a devastating second half of the campaign saw Spurs finish eighth in the table meaning no European football next season.

Mason has urged Spurs to figure out “who we want to be” as they struggle caught between needing to rebuild and wanting to challenge quickly for trophies. Antonio Conte was dismissed without coming close to winning silverware, while previous boss Jose Mourinho was sacked before a League Cup final which Mason ultimately led the team out for to lose in 2021
So its no longer 7-10 days but 10-14 this time :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 

Timberwolf

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Another reason he's the opposite of Nuno :LOL:

Yeah don't buy the Nuno comparisons.

He was the ultimate compromise candidate - real bottom of the barrel stuff - and was pressured by Levy and Paratici to play a style of football and formation that he was fundamentally ill-suited to play because Levy had promised the fans positive football before Paratici turned up.

From what I've read and seen of Ange he's nothing if not his own man. If Levy & co start telling him what to do on the pitch he'll promptly tell them to fuck off and look elsewhere or stay at Celtic. He'll instill the principles he believes in and try to get us playing positive, attacking football. Maybe we'll get battered but at least there will be singular vision and intent rather than the broken contradiction that was Nuno's football.
 

funkycoldmedina

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Maybe - but our current squad looks nothing like the players the Postecoglou uses at Celtic.

They utilize small quick players. Of their current roster of outfield players - 10 are shorter than 5'10", and only 3 are as tall as 6'1"
I would guess that Postecoglou had similar player in Japan and Australia.

Our current roster is 3 players who are shorter than 5'10" - Lucas, Skipp and Porro, and 10 players who are 6'1" or taller.




Celtic are small, quick, technical players. Spurs are tall, slow and non-technical players. It's a mismatch of what Postecoglou wants to do, and the players he has at his disposal. And to get the quality of players that Postecoglou needs, at the levels required in the PL, would take City-levels of spending, over several windows.
Neither did his squad when he took over from Lennon. He evolved it which, much like Ten Hag is doing, we need. Some players will adapt, others won't but he's not as prescriptive as Conte was
 

dtxspurs

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I really do try to keep my criticism of Levy balanced and focused on his lack of competence is developing a football strategy and I tend to stay away from the more tin foil hat stuff.

But when you point out facts such as the above, it really does leave one to wonder whether he was pulling the wool over the fans' eyes trying to look ambitious by attempting to sign those managers knowing it would be impossible. Now that he actually has the chance to bring them in and put his money where his mouth is, he doesn't do it as he's unwilling to back them in their vision/choices.
Yep, it's all a sham.

We're picking managers for financial reasons first, football second.
 

St José Dominguez

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what's v clear with Big Ang is that whether you are for or against, he isn't going to get much leeway from the press or the fans at large. He will get less leeway than Slot would have. They have really screwed this search up. Whenever we enter a managerial search - or for a Director of Football - and this seems to come around every season, I always hope we come out of it not ignoring Germany as a recruiting ground for these roles and every time we seem to which is strange.
I agree the search has been a mess, like most things at the club right now. However if Ange is made manager and the first few months of the season he is clearly attempting to get the team playing attacking football but results and performances are very up and down and any fan is calling for change then those fans are fucking morons, in my opinion.
 

Tucker

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Luis Enrique and Julian Nagelsmann are literally still available, and Daniel Levy is sniffing around the fucking Celtic manager.
We’ve had reports we are talking to Luis Enrique. So it’s not like he’s not in the equation.
 

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Can someone explain to me why we are not going after Nagelsmann? Is it out of fear of public rejection or is there something wrong with him ?
 

Guntz

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Luis Enrique and Julian Nagelsmann are literally still available, and Daniel Levy is sniffing around the fucking Celtic manager.

Nagelsmann is without a doubt the best available candidate IMO. But the club obviously doesn't want to appoint him for whatever reason.

Can't wrap my head around it either considering they tried to get him twice before, but there you go.
 

makeveli

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Wtf with ange why why why have we fallen that much are we clueless , is levy laughing at us and just don’t give a shit about us , pointless club we’ve turned into
 

GutBucket

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Happy with most names we are linked with, I wish there was a longer plan and philosophy in mind so next coach has easy transition (like at Brighton). But we will probably pick someone with opposite style 1 or 2 years from now.
 

snakehipsspurs

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Can’t help feeling all this, understandable, shouting for Nags (who was my favourite too) or Enrique and dismissal of Ange is reminiscent of when we went for Poch instead of the fan favourite De Boer.
 

easley91

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Thought Nagelsmann wanted a specific DOF and Levy won't accommodate? So it's not like we haven't spoken to him.. and there are reports we're speaking to Enrique, so again it's not like we're blatantly ignoring either of them in this search before people lose their minds..






Sorry forgot where I was.
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Strikeb4ck

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I'd be pretty pleased with Ange. I would take him over the likes of Frank, Potter, Rodgers, Marco Silva, etc - the known commodities we are being linked to.

The only managers with real links I'd put above him are Nagelsmann and maybe Enrique.

Nagelsmann hits the trifecta of generating stability, respect from players/fans, and upside.
Enrique hits stability and respect.

I think the Ange/Amorim/Gallardo idea is more upside based, which I am fine with - it's a calculated gamble we're forced into after years of mismanagement from Levy and co (which I am not fine with, but it's where we are right now). There are some doomsayers out there talking about relegation, but that is not realistic at all. We're not getting relegated. We may not be amazing next season and it could be rough at times as these names (and Slot) would be a gamble - they're unproven at this level, but for their own reasons they definitely offer real upside - but not managers that will "relegate us". That's just silly.

I know Ange isn't perfect, but some of his accomplishments (yes, at a lower level) have me pretty enthusiastic. And he generated real praise from Pep, which shouldn't go unnoticed - he also outpossessed City in a club friendly with Yokohama F Marinos, which I find pretty impressive and a testament to his football, even if it was a friendly. Finally, if nothing else we'll be playing high octane attacking football. I miss the 'Arry days.

I also totally understand that with a glass half empty outlook it's easy to pin this as Levy being cheap in the managerial search, failing miserably not getting a top candidate, Ange being totally unproven and him never having a job at this level despite his age being a damning thing, our defensive issues with his penchant for unchecked/suicidal attacking play being a recipe for disaster, etc. There are some valid concerns for sure, but I think there is reason for optimism too.
 
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fishhhandaricecake

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I'd be pretty pleased with Ange. I would take him over the likes of Frank, Potter, Rodgers, Marco Silva, etc - the known commodities we are being linked to.

The only managers with real links I'd put above him are Nagelsmann and maybe Enrique.

Nagelsmann hits the trifecta of generating stability, respect from players/fans, and upside.
Enrique hits stability and respect.

I think the Ange/Amorim/Gallardo idea is more upside based, which I am fine with - it's a calculated gamble we're forced into after years of mismanagement from Levy and co (which I am not fine with, but it's where we are right now). There are some doomsayers out there talking about relegation, but that is not realistic at all. We're not getting relegated. We may not be amazing as both of these two (and Slot) would be a gamble as they're unproven at this level, but for their own reasons they definitely offer real upside.

I know Ange isn't perfect, but some of his accomplishments (yes, at a lower level) have me pretty enthusiastic. And he generated real praise from Pep, which shouldn't go unnoticed - he also outpossessed City in a club friendly with Yokohama F Marinos, which I find pretty impressive and a testament to his football, even if it was a friendly. Finally, if nothing else we'll be playing high octane attacking football. I miss the 'Arry days.
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