Next Manager Watch

[Bluto Blutarsky]

are simply not that keen on managing us because they think they can get a bigger job. We are not top tier in that regard, the stadium and facilities only go so far, our name doesnt resonate the way others do.

I think we are "big" enough - and we certainly pay well enough.

My take is that managers look at the job as one that is set up to fail - based on the historic structure of the club. Right or wrong, they will see Levy's influence as inhibiting their own chances of success - and that could have longer term ramifications.

 

[FrankSpencer]

I work in Scottish football on a weekly basis during the season. I’m at Celtic semi regular and up close and personal with Ange.
He seems fine but tbh got no interest in him being our manager.

I’ve dipped in and out of this thread very infrequently last few months tbh but have seen some comments. Being able to mine for Asian talent has no relevance to us. Yes in the Scottish league it might be a way of finding technically superior players for cheap prices, but will not work at the levels we swim in. He seems nice enough, but I’d hardly call him an inspiring type of character .. he’s pretty gruff, monotone and very quietly spoken, this coming from someone that has been at close quarters with him and had to adjust things as he’s a mumbler.

Lastly, I’m not convinced he would even want to come

Not for us, sorry.

The big man sounds like a hoot!

 

[wrd]

Keep flip flopping on Postecoglu. If he was our no.1 candidate at the beginning of the summer, I think there would be less scepticism. Fact is he’s, at best, our third choice and doesn’t really fit the remit of a coach in the 2014 Poch mold.

To provide a bit of balance, for those complaining about his age (not saying you’re wrong), if he’s still here into his 60s, will people still be complaining or will they be worrying about when he’d be looking to retire after clearly doing a good enough job to survive longer than 90% of managers under ENIC?

I think he fits the criteria the best, with Gallardo being my pick for most exciting but I understand the language barrier and risk. I think he will have to grow into the job though and get to grips with the prem and won't hit the ground running but that's fine by me as he fits the profile.

 

[For the love of Spurs]

Are any of the keyboard warriors and/or fans in possession of all the facts and qualified, yes properly qualified to make that decision!

The answer is, we don’t, we just sit back and get on with whatever is served to us, then we decide if we like it.

That’s all well and good but is anyone at the club qualified to make that decision. I would assume no as we don’t have a DoF in place so this whole thing is has become a pantomime.

 

[Shanks]

Keep flip flopping on Postecoglu. If he was our no.1 candidate at the beginning of the summer, I think there would be less scepticism. Fact is he’s, at best, our third choice and doesn’t really fit the remit of a coach in the 2014 Poch mold.

To provide a bit of balance, for those complaining about his age (not saying you’re wrong), if he’s still here into his 60s, will people still be complaining or will they be worrying about when he’d be looking to retire after clearly doing a good enough job to survive longer than 90% of managers under ENIC?

His age is irrelevant in my opinion.
My issue is using his success at Celtic as a reason to get him.

gerrard won the title up there

 

[allatsea]

His age is irrelevant in my opinion.
My issue is using his success at Celtic as a reason to get him.

gerrard won the title up there

Looking back it is clear Gerrard didn't win the title his assistant did.

 

[JR1994]

At least we’ll end up with Naglesmann in October

 

[rossdapep]

Keep flip flopping on Postecoglu. If he was our no.1 candidate at the beginning of the summer, I think there would be less scepticism. Fact is he’s, at best, our third choice and doesn’t really fit the remit of a coach in the 2014 Poch mold.

To provide a bit of balance, for those complaining about his age (not saying you’re wrong), if he’s still here into his 60s, will people still be complaining or will they be worrying about when he’d be looking to retire after clearly doing a good enough job to survive longer than 90% of managers under ENIC?

The way I see it is the club had identified the following names;

Kompany
Slot
De Zerbi
Postecoglou
Amorim (to a degree)

All upcoming coaches who play the football we symbolise with the ability to work with lesser squads under the remits given by the club.

Nagelsmann came as an unexpected shock. So I think they explored that.

Luis Enrique isn't in the category as the previous due to his experience but may still be able to work within the parameters so was probably added for that reason as a back-up.

I don't necessarily see this as a really bad thing because they have still settled on a pool of coaches who fit what we need/looking for.

I think the Nuno saga is blurring things slightly because if my analysis is accurate, then they are at least have an aligned plan.

I said it before but when we fired Poch and then Jose, we should have gone back to this method immediately.

Even if the pool of coaches was not the best (Fonseca), I believe the squad would have been much more ready for the next coach.

 

[Silky Skills]

At least we’ll end up with Naglesmann in October

Or Big Sam

 

[chas vs dave]

Or Big Sam

Unrivalled in his knowledge

 

[RobjDerby]

Or Big Sam

Noo, we wont need him until March\April

 

[NeckOil]

Honestly doesn't matter who the manager is as the player are the problem and they will not be leaving anytime soon and we won't be buying anyone established. You don't need a manager that plays a certain way that's only for the fans. You just need a manager who is going to get those players to buy into their ideas and tactics which is harder than winning the euro millions. Doesn't matter if that's Ange, Slot, Gallardo, Redknapp, Sherwood or Mason. We just need someone NOW. Not in 4 weeks time. Not in time for the pre season tour. We needed them yesterday and the longer we go without a plan the worse next season becomes

 

[cjsimba]

Is 10-14 days the new 7-10 days?

 

[Trix]

Did Trix say that?

No he didn't.

 

[nferno]

It will be Nuno szn all over again if we appoint the Celtic manager. You can’t get someone in who the majority of fans don’t rate, it’s going to end in disaster if he doesn’t hit the ground running because the boo boys will be on his back from day one otherwise.

Why does the bald one find it so hard to relinquish some control and appoint the one man who every Spurs fan would be happy with, Nagelsmann? It’s infuriating, his thought process.

 

[wrd]

It will be Nuno szn all over again if we appoint the Celtic manager. You can’t get someone in who the majority of fans don’t rate, it’s going to end in disaster if he doesn’t hit the ground running because the boo boys will be on his back from day one otherwise.

Why does the bald one find it so hard to relinquish some control and appoint the one man who every Spurs fan would be happy with, Nagelsmann? It’s infuriating, his thought process.

I don't know if that's true that the majority of the fan's don't rate him.

I don't think it's the same as Nuno all over again either.

Ange is known for playing attacking football, he's also known for his character and he charmed the Celtic fans. Nuno was the opposite of both aspects

The only way that they're comparable is in relation to how fans might respond if performances are not good because they're not a first ballot name. I think a lot of us put up with a lot more with Conte than we did with Nuno despite there being a lot of overlap in performances for example. Slot and Nagelsmann may get the similar benefit that Conte did but to me that's the only comparative aspect between them.

 

[KaribYid]

Tried to get Poch 2 summers ago. PSG blocked. Tried to get JN 2 summers ago, Munich swooped. Both free, both available this summer - go for the manager from a 2 team league ranked one of the worst in Europe. FM!

I really do try to keep my criticism of Levy balanced and focused on his lack of competence is developing a football strategy and I tend to stay away from the more tin foil hat stuff.

But when you point out facts such as the above, it really does leave one to wonder whether he was pulling the wool over the fans' eyes trying to look ambitious by attempting to sign those managers knowing it would be impossible. Now that he actually has the chance to bring them in and put his money where his mouth is, he doesn't do it as he's unwilling to back them in their vision/choices.

 

[piedpiper]

Not sure we disagree. I'm referring as the second tier to pick from "for us" with JN the only one on the top perch at this point. i see him at the same level as the above levels and would put Ange at a step below primarily because he hasn't proven himself at a higher level. I do believe that he could be every bit as good as Enrique but don't see the proof of it, hence, more risk.

Aaaah okay.. yes I misread your statement... in full agreement. Naglesmann was my top choice too....but I'd happily settle for Luis Enrique.

Can't agree more on Ange. Let him.go elsewhere and prove himself. We not an apprenticeship school...... let him manage a Leicester, West Ham etc.

 

[wrd]

I asked my friend who is a Celtic ST holder to weigh in on Ange:

If you take him I will never speak to you again
He’s a genuinely great guy.
Smart media operator.
But I just don’t see him working in the EPL.
He likes to build a team and is a proper coach of the old school as well as a manager.

He’d rather take 5 years to build his style of club than win over night.

The main criticism of him in Europe is that he’ll stick to his principles even if it means taking a battering. I’m not sure that’s true but probably more of a reflection on that fact that our resources are pretty constrained and he can’t easily vary the system.

He is great at improving players and bringing through young players. Completely saved Joe Hart’s career.

Another reason he's the opposite of Nuno

 

[olithfc]

what's v clear with Big Ang is that whether you are for or against, he isn't going to get much leeway from the press or the fans at large. He will get less leeway than Slot would have. They have really screwed this search up. Whenever we enter a managerial search - or for a Director of Football - and this seems to come around every season, I always hope we come out of it not ignoring Germany as a recruiting ground for these roles and every time we seem to which is strange.