Player Watch Player Watch: James Maddison

chas vs dave · Jun 23, 2023

Mr Pink said:
So he's of interest and that's about it?

Doesn't sound like he's one of our top targets at all. That's a shame.

I was hoping we'd have clear targets and pushing towards getting them done for pre season.

Sounds like it's another 'opportunistic' approach with contract situations rather than specific pieces of the jigsaw the manager etc has identified.

Leicester are massively overpricing him.

For the amount they want, we could potentially buy guler and Scott.

PaulThurston · Jun 23, 2023

Trix said:
Personally I just see this one going the same way as Raya. There is an interest for sure but we are too far apart, have other options and the hype around this is very much media driven as opposed to us repeatedly pushing for it.

I'm not saying it definitely won't happen if things change because we do like him. I just believe it's unlikely as it stands.

This is where I think there needs to be at least some kind of communication from the club, even if it's just to say we are still looking at various options or something along those lines. The masses on social media are making their own assumptions and will go ballistic if we don't buy Maddison, irrespective of how good the player actually coming in is.

The club get a lot of stick - a great deal of it unwarranted - but they don't help themselves sometimes. Hopefully things will improve once Paul Munn and Ange officially start.

On the other hand if the Maddison alternative is as good as the Raya alternative seems to be then I'll be very happy.

Mr Pink · Jun 23, 2023

chas vs dave said:
Leicester are massively overpricing him.

For the amount they want, we could potentially buy guler and Scott.

Mate they are but that's to be expected. We'd be doing the exactly the same thing.

If its a player the manager really wants we should be prepared to push the boat out a little further.

Its how the big Clubs get their top targets in the end, they don't fuck about.

Liverpool didn't fuck about getting Alison and VVD.

Look at the impact they had.

Whatever metrics we're using to determine value, they seem to be overlooking other significant elements.

I'm not saying we should just meet their asking price, but to be that far apart on valuation is disappointing.

Regardless of his contract situation he's proven as one of the best creative players in the PL.

Lancaster Spur · Jun 23, 2023

Mr Pink said:
I was hoping we'd have clear targets and pushing towards getting them done for pre season.

Sounds like it's another 'opportunistic' approach with contract situations rather than specific pieces of the jigsaw the manager etc has identified.

I don't make the same conclusion, we know we need a creative midfielder but it probably isn't a priority over the defence. I would think we've had a couple of conversations but are too far apart on valuation at the moment. One thing the Raya situation has shown other clubs, is that were not messing around with long negotiations and will happily move on to next targets if the talks are not going anywhere.

Stoof · Jun 23, 2023

Mr Pink said:
Mate they are but that's to be expected. We'd be doing the exactly the same thing.

If its a player the manager really wants we should be prepared to push the boat out a little further.

Its how the big Clubs get their top targets in the end, they don't fuck about.

Liverpool didn't fuck about getting Alison and VVD.

Look at the impact they had.

Whatever metrics we're using to determine value, they seem to be overlooking other significant elements.

I'm not saying we should just meet their asking price, but to be that far apart on valuation is disappointing.

Regardless of his contract situation he's proven as one of the best creative players in the PL.

The Liverpool chat is getting a bit recycled - as is the counter to it - they needed two positions filled (and that’s it). Our situation is really not the same.

Lancaster Spur · Jun 23, 2023

Mr Pink said:
Its how the big Clubs get their top targets in the end, they don't fuck about.

Liverpool didn't fuck about getting Alison and VVD.
Look at the impact they had.

Didn't Liverpool get reported to the premier League for Tapping up VVD? I'm sure they had to drop getting him and had to wait for the next window/ season or risk being punished.
Not sure that's a good example of not fucking about.

Mr Pink · Jun 23, 2023

Stoof said:
The Liverpool chat is getting a bit recycled - as is the counter to it - they needed two positions filled (and that’s it). Our situation is really not the same.

Have I missed something that says we’re far apart?

Yes you have. See Trix's post.

The Liverpool point might be overused but it's a great example.

I think our need for a creative midfielder is very high.

A quality CB and Maddison type would be at the top of my list.

Stoof · Jun 23, 2023

Mr Pink said:
Yes you have. See Trix's post.

The Liverpool point might be overused but it's a great example.

I think our need for a creative midfielder is very high.

A quality CB and Maddison type would be at the top of my list.

Yeah I edited my post but you must have just caught it.

Liverpool isn’t a great example as the situations are literally not the same.

I agree with your list. But the list doesn’t stop there.

Mr Pink · Jun 23, 2023

Lancaster Spur said:
Didn't Liverpool get reported to the premier League for Tapping up VVD? I'm sure they had to drop getting him and had to wait for the next window/ season or risk being punished.
Not sure that's a good example of not fucking about.

Didn't know that.

Anyway, it's all feeling very familiar.

But I'll come out with the standard bullshit line I do every summer...

I'll reserve judgement until the end of the window....

TommyGee · Jun 23, 2023

PaulThurston said:
This is where I think there needs to be at least some kind of communication from the club, even if it's just to say we are still looking at various options or something along those lines. The masses on social media are making their own assumptions and will go ballistic if we don't buy Maddison, irrespective of how good the player actually coming in is.

This makes no sense from a football or business perspective whatsoever, other than to appease some online fans. And we should in no way be running the club to appease fan's speculation. There's a reason no club in the world openly announces its transfer targets and dealings outside of rare and specific exceptions.

Gpnash84 · Jun 23, 2023

You would think there’s more pressure for Leicester to sell than Brentford and more scope for the price to fall. Can’t see Maddison being prepared to play in the championship having just broke into the England set up regularly and it doesn’t sound like any other big clubs apart from us and Newcastle are in for him and both won’t pay £50m+. Just whether we want a protracted chase or whether we want players in asap to train in the new system

chas vs dave · Jun 23, 2023

Mr Pink said:
Mate they are but that's to be expected. We'd be doing the exactly the same thing.

If its a player the manager really wants we should be prepared to push the boat out a little further.

Its how the big Clubs get their top targets in the end, they don't fuck about.

Liverpool didn't fuck about getting Alison and VVD.

Look at the impact they had.

Whatever metrics we're using to determine value, they seem to be overlooking other significant elements.

I'm not saying we should just meet their asking price, but to be that far apart on valuation is disappointing.

Regardless of his contract situation he's proven as one of the best creative players in the PL.

It took them 2 windows to get VVD.

Our problem hasn't been creativity. It's been at the back. Maddison played his best stuff at RWF, and there are questions over his injury record.

We have limited funds and need to get it right.

Finchyid · Jun 23, 2023

Mr Pink said:
Mate they are but that's to be expected. We'd be doing the exactly the same thing.

If its a player the manager really wants we should be prepared to push the boat out a little further.

Its how the big Clubs get their top targets in the end, they don't fuck about.

Liverpool didn't fuck about getting Alison and VVD.

Look at the impact they had.

Whatever metrics we're using to determine value, they seem to be overlooking other significant elements.

I'm not saying we should just meet their asking price, but to be that far apart on valuation is disappointing.

Regardless of his contract situation he's proven as one of the best creative players in the PL.

Why haven’t arsenal just paid the price for Rice? City may come in now.

Maddison is not a £60m player. Leicester also playing a risky game too. Don’t mind if we don’t sign him but it will break twitter

RobjDerby · Jun 23, 2023

Fact is, we're not exactly in a position of strength to be playing the maybe we will or maybe we wont game.
Not like City picking up Rice to add to their amazing squad.

We've been crap for a few years, need to make moves to catch up.
And we are where we are, because of the way we've acted with opportunities like this in the past.

Ghost Hardware · Jun 23, 2023

Trix said:
Personally I just see this one going the same way as Raya. There is an interest for sure but we are too far apart, have other options and the hype around this is very much media driven as opposed to us repeatedly pushing for it.

I'm not saying it definitely won't happen if things change because we do like him. I just believe it's unlikely as it stands.

Good to hear we have other options. I was really impressed with how we dealt with Raya, moved on swiftly once we realised nothing was going to happen re price. I hope we are like that with all our targets moving forward. It makes a welcome change for us and will put us in a much stronger position when pre season starts.

mark87 · Jun 23, 2023

Guntz · Jun 23, 2023

mark87 said:

If he really is a key target for Ange then we really shouldn’t be missing out for the sake of £10-£15m

We saved that anyway by not signing Raya.

mark87 · Jun 23, 2023

Guntz said:
If he really is a key target for Ange then we really shouldn’t be missing out for the sake of £10-£15m

We saved that anyway by not signing Raya.

Yeahhhhh but do you really expect Levy to put it back into the budget though?

Dunc2610 · Jun 23, 2023

Guntz said:
If he really is a key target for Ange then we really shouldn’t be missing out for the sake of £10-£15m

We saved that anyway by not signing Raya.

Yeah, but maybe there are other targets that Ange likes also, he's not known for wanting to throw big money at people, he likes his hidden gems, so assuming our head scout (who found our 'new' keeper) knows what he's doing (cause its not Levy), I would think there are other equally good targets!!

djhotspur · Jun 23, 2023

Trix said:
Personally I just see this one going the same way as Raya. There is an interest for sure but we are too far apart, have other options and the hype around this is very much media driven as opposed to us repeatedly pushing for it.

I'm not saying it definitely won't happen if things change because we do like him. I just believe it's unlikely as it stands.

Thanks trix. Very frustrating though we need his extra creativity and goals. I doubt anyone else we are looking at bring his level of output.

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