Match Threads Spurs vs Man City - Day 14

spursfan77 · Dec 3, 2023

Jay. said:
Was Haaland booked for that verbal assault on the ref near the end?

He should have been. Should have had a card for that forearm smash on Emerson too. McBurnie got a card for the same yesterday.

fishhhandaricecake · Dec 3, 2023

DenverSpur said:
What did he say?

Praised our character and comeback, says in the past he’s called us soft but not today and that we played some good football, also acknowledged we need to get some players back.

Tezza1978 · Dec 3, 2023

Trix said:
I don't know whether it needs tweaks or not tbh, and time will tell. All I'm doing is pointing out to the poster I quoted that's what people are suggesting NOT that we have to return to no risk pragmatic football like he and many others on here are insinuating.

Every time there is any criticism of what we are doing there are a number of posters on here that start shouting about Conte and how we were playing under him, like that's the only alternative to what we are currently doing when it isn't. There is a whole range of in between park the bus and gung ho football.

In support of this opinion I would use the hackneyed phrase "there's more than one way to skin a cat"

I'm all in on Ange's attacking, all action plan. But I do see signs he tweaks this philosophy .....and as he adapts to managing in the Prem I can see he will do so further - particularly away against the big teams. Doesn't mean throwing his ideas out with the bathwater, just means tweaking (which will be easier when gets a 22 he Trusts rather than just a first XI)

fishhhandaricecake · Dec 3, 2023

Pistols At Dawn said:
Even if Sarr isn’t back for WHam, we could line up like this

Vic
Porro Cuti Emerson Destiny
PEH Biss GLC
Deki Sonny BJ

That’s not half bad.

Davies over Emerson at LCB for me!
Emerson possibly start RB the game after to give Porro some rest.

theShiznit · Dec 3, 2023

I can see why Ange at this point does not want to compromise his principles.
His teaching of the system is still in its infancy and has worked well up until the unforeseen circumstances of recent weeks.
So changing it now can send a message that (whether subconscious or not )can lead to doubt creeping into the players minds.
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And let's face it, but for some better decisions/choices from the players we would still be flying.

UncleBuck · Dec 3, 2023

Super Pav said:
Just watched game and seen on Twitter Royal & Davies getting pelters as usual,Royal very shaky first half admittedly and both exposed at times but ffs we were under siege and thought Davies in the circumstances was tremendous trying to organise the makeshift defence,he was everywhere,well played Ben,presumably some are expecting prime Sergio Ramos as understudy come January.

Have to say if I was at the top of my game in any sport I wouldn’t be on social media.

Nebby · Dec 3, 2023

Trix said:
I don't know whether it needs tweaks or not tbh, and time will tell. All I'm doing is pointing out to the poster I quoted that's what people are suggesting NOT that we have to return to no risk pragmatic football like he and many others on here are insinuating.

Every time there is any criticism of what we are doing there are a number of posters on here that start shouting about Conte and how we were playing under him, like that's the only alternative to what we are currently doing when it isn't. There is a whole range of in between park the bus and gung ho football.

“Tweaks” sounds like compromise to me. With Ange we go all in. Risks are to be encouraged, not frowned upon.

Trix · Dec 3, 2023

Nebby said:
“Tweaks” sounds like compromise to me. With Ange we go all in. Risks are to be encouraged, not frowned upon.

Opinions isn't it. Everyone else including Pep, Klopp, and SAF had to tweak their teams and way of playing to adapt to the game changing and different leagues.

lis spur · Dec 3, 2023

Players buying into Ange style of play ,kudos to Skipp and his little turn in the build up to our third!!!

DarwinSpur · Dec 3, 2023

Pistols At Dawn said:
Even if Sarr isn’t back for WHam, we could line up like this

Vic
Porro Cuti Emerson Destiny
PEH Biss GLC
Deki Sonny BJ

That’s not half bad.

I'm Royals biggest fan but he doesn't start LCB ahead of Davies...

McFlash · Dec 3, 2023

Trix said:
Opinions isn't it. Everyone else including Pep, Klopp, and SAF had to tweak their teams and way of playing to adapt to the game changing and different leagues.

Ange has tweaked today though, albeit during the match, with the sub of Gil for PEH.
He also did the same with bringing in Skipp and Veliz in the previous game, changing to two up top.
I think he's quite capable of changing tactics during game, shifting things around a bit but his philosophy remains the same no matter what.

There's a difference between tweaking things and changing the entire set up and style of the team.
Pep, Klippety and SAF all tweaked things, as does Ange but their way of playing the game never changes/changed.

UbeAstard · Dec 3, 2023

spursfan77 said:
He should have been. Should have had a card for that forearm smash on Emerson too. McBurnie got a card for the same yesterday.

It was nothing similar

UbeAstard · Dec 3, 2023

theShiznit said:
Yeah Emerson's footwork under pressure is slow enough on his favoured side, not sure I'd want him having to run around the ball as well at LCB.

His decision making was awful

Nebby · Dec 3, 2023

Trix said:
Opinions isn't it. Everyone else including Pep, Klopp, and SAF had to tweak their teams and way of playing to adapt to the game changing and different leagues.

Happily, Ange isn’t like them.

noggen · Dec 3, 2023

Romulus said:
Charge the ****.

Dougal · Dec 3, 2023

noggen said:
So angry.. lol

dirtyh · Dec 3, 2023

Dougal said:
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stuff of nightmares

Jody · Dec 3, 2023

I think it’ll be fine for Ange to tweak in game tactics etc once we have arrived but we are still in the process of embedding a style and a culture and that should come first imo. And his obv.

Jay. · Dec 3, 2023

was that Kulusevski header in the same goal as that Crouch header and the Kane one? I think it was.

WiganSpur · Dec 3, 2023

Trix said:
Opinions isn't it. Everyone else including Pep, Klopp, and SAF had to tweak their teams and way of playing to adapt to the game changing and different leagues.

I don't think Ange makes system tweaks per se but he allows the players he selects to dictate that variation which is not really a bad idea. He is interesting in that he appears to have a very clear "philosophy" but not necessarily a rigid build up pattern within that unlike Conte.

For instance today PEH coming on for Bryan was always going to bring down the chaos a peg, even if there was not a marked system change. To be honest the players are intelligent themselves and should be adapting to those out there on the pitch. E.g if Richarlison is up front then players like Porro, Kulusevski and Johnson should look to go down the outside more and float a cross in rather than trying to play it to his feet.

With Conte rightly or wrongly you always felt no matter the player they were brought into the team to do a very specific job. The difference is clearer when it comes to the attacking unit.

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